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Jedit posted:Yeah, but TPaine is diabetic and it sounds like he's talking about eating it himself. Decent hypo treatment? Also, kinda go gently caress yourself if I'm being honest, you worry about your own diet and I'll worry about mine.
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mehall posted:Apparently the government sneaked up a consultation on cracking down on travellers back in November. Would be helpful to include a link to the consultation https://twitter.com/giacbelloli/status/1235122448426622978?s=19
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namesake posted:I'm afraid he'll get in on full membership votes, the liberalism is deep in the party membership. Also, going to be interesting (and perhaps upsetting) to see if the US left has any more luck with enthusiastic, well-targeted grassroots activism vs. establishment media. Hopefully they do better than we did.
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Mar 4, 2020 13:28
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mehall posted:Apparently the government sneaked up a consultation on cracking down on travellers back in November. Wow the questions really are shockingly bad quote:Q1: To what extent do you agree or disagree that knowingly entering land without the The linked guide is definitely worth a read: quote:We strongly disagree that entering land without the landowner’s permission should
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Junior G-man posted:It would mean them, even subconsciously, acknowledging that a lot of they've done and voted for in the last 20-40 years (certainly in the post-cold-war period) was at least in some measure wrong. That a lot of the certainties they were raised with, and many of the things that brought them to the current level of (relative, not everyone etc etc) comfort was on the back others who got shafted. You know how hard that is for people? Which is why framing things in terms of progress is generally a good idea, because it allows people to say ‘that might have.been acceptable in the seventies, but these days we would hope things can be better’. Unfortunately, most of leftist discourse has turned away from that strategy. Not entirely sure why; maybe just boredom with it due to overuse, or perhaps some kind of principled complaint about it not being entirely true
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Mar 4, 2020 14:09
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So if travellers trespass the police are just gonna seize their legally owned vehicles/homes? God is this the next 5 years? Just a quiet nonchalant slide into fascism.
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Mar 4, 2020 14:13
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Saros posted:https://www.dropbox.com/s/3vd052fdurm2a0c/fmb.13.161.pdf?dl=0 Thanks!
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Strom Cuzewon posted:So if travellers trespass the police are just gonna seize their legally owned vehicles/homes? God is this the next 5 years? Just a quiet nonchalant slide into fascism. I've already seen the police do this for homeless people for years. I had to beg them to leave a note to tell that person where they can pick up their stuff.
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Mar 4, 2020 14:16
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Strom Cuzewon posted:So if travellers trespass the police are just gonna seize their legally owned vehicles/homes? God is this the next 5 years? Just a quiet nonchalant slide into fascism. I'm halfway through the response form now and it's incredible how the proposal just keeps getting more draconian the further I go.
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Mar 4, 2020 14:19
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2 more confirmed with covid-19 in scotland - ayrshire and grampian.1 had came back from italy, another had been in contact with a previous confirmed case - but not the ones in scotland
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Mar 4, 2020 14:21
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Strom Cuzewon posted:So if travellers trespass the police are just gonna seize their legally owned vehicles/homes? God is this the next 5 years? Just a quiet nonchalant slide into fascism. I mean not necessarily but they'll arrest them. Unless theres later questions not quoted here that say that.
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Mar 4, 2020 14:23
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Prestwick are gonna have to take down that Pure Dead Brilliant sign at the airport aren’t they
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Mar 4, 2020 14:23
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Traveller consultation: I see that there's a link to a much shorter form that gives permission to FFT to complete the long one on your behalf: https://www.gypsy-traveller.org/campaigns/how-to-respond-to-government-plans-to-strengthen-police-powers-against-gypsies-and-travellers/
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I mean not necessarily but they'll arrest them. Unless theres later questions not quoted here that say that.  Boy I sure am glad journalists are picking up on this, instead of dropping burns on twitter about the precise patriotism content of a full english (87%)
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I was just thinking (yes, really) maybe they could have a pay per article as in say 5p or thereabouts and cap it at the monthly cost. This was how the 90s Internet was supposed to work. Then came ads, and surveillence capitalism... E: See error code 402, payment required. Micropayment infrastructure was never implemented to use it. Also FYI you can disable javascript based blocks very easily by just... disabling Javascript. If you only want to do it for one tab, open chrome developer tools (F12), press F1, choose 'Disable javascript' from debugging options. Then refresh the page. Will go away once you close dev tools/the tab. RockyB fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Mar 4, 2020 |
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I mean not necessarily but they'll arrest them. Unless theres later questions not quoted here that say that. The proposal later on mentions reducing the number of vehicles required to define an encampment from 6 to 2 (a car towing a caravan counts as 2 vehicles) and suggests giving police power to seize any property belonging to someone found setting up such an encampment (or trespassing generally)
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Mar 4, 2020 14:39
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just seen an aircraft carrier I've heard several people saying it's smaller than they thought it would be, but one of them also seemed to be struggling to come to grips with the concept of small vs far away
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CGI Stardust posted:
Last night the biggest grassroots activist campaign in the US got owned by sleepy Joe who had literally not done ANY campaigning in these states. Totally outweighed by the media telling people how to vote. Well... At least Kier Starmers stuff genuinely looks a thousand times better than Biden taking over the party. UK back on top baby!
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Mar 4, 2020 14:46
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Strom Cuzewon posted:So if travellers trespass the police are just gonna seize their legally owned vehicles/homes? God is this the next 5 years? Just a quiet nonchalant slide into fascism. They won't do anything if my friend's experience is anything to go by. It's a sorry tale involving exploitation of the vulnerable elderly, 20+ repeated burglaries and the van traced as registered to an official traveller site. The police point blank told them they would do nothing because the perpetrators were travellers.
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Prince John posted:They won't do anything if my friend's experience is anything to go by. It's a sorry tale involving exploitation of the vulnerable elderly, 20+ repeated burglaries and the van traced as registered to an official traveller site. The police point blank told them they would do nothing because the perpetrators were travellers. oh well I guess it's fine to lock them all up then
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XMNN posted:just seen an aircraft carrier I guess it depends what you're comparing them to...  Julio Cruz posted:oh well I guess it's fine to lock them all up then Arguing in good faith as always.
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Mar 4, 2020 14:59
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Arguing in good faith as always. turn your monitor on
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Mar 4, 2020 15:01
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The Tory manifesto explicitly contained this promisequote:We will tackle unauthorised traveller camps. We will give the police new powers to arrest and seize the property and vehicles of trespassers who set up unauthorised encampments, in order to protect our communities. We will make intentional trespass a criminal offence, and we will also give councils greater powers within the planning system. bolded in original This makes it unlikely that the criminalisation mandate would be altered - it's hard to argue with general election victories - but that point on requiring the land owner's permission to expel unauthorized trespassers might have promise. There's a lot of absentee landowners out there in suburban England. That noted, never respond to public consultations with a form response. You're just wasting your time. The interns processing the submissions can and are able to summarize % of responses as being linked to a single NGO. Personalized responses have much more value.
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Flipswitch posted:7hrs wtf Voter suppression in America is wild. Communities with high poverty and minority voters are forced to wait for hours because the government actively closes down places to vote and holds back voting machines. Like, actively making sure there's warehouses of voting machines going unused. For the explicit purpose of disenfranchising anyone who might vote to improve the lives of the poor. They even admit that's why they do it.
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Prince John posted:They won't do anything if my friend's experience is anything to go by. It's a sorry tale involving exploitation of the vulnerable elderly, 20+ repeated burglaries and the van traced as registered to an official traveller site. The police point blank told them they would do nothing because the perpetrators were travellers. Please don't spread casual racism against travellers, it's trash to do.
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Mar 4, 2020 15:18
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Lol the hospital my sister works in just threw out all their face masks because they were made in Wuhan
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Jose posted:Lol the hospital my sister works in just threw out all their face masks because they were made in Wuhan Surely they're sterilised?
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Jose posted:Lol the hospital my sister works in just threw out all their face masks because they were made in Wuhan We've been making jokes in my office every time someone gets a delivery of something made in China(which is just about everything) that it's carrying the virus but jesus I didn't think anyone was taking that seriously.
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Re: paywalls. TripAdvisor now seems to prompt me to log in to continue reading the site. Guess I'll rely on Google map reviews now...
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Surely they're sterilised? But they've been within 100km of a virus particle, better safe than sorry
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https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/raytheon-glenrothes-britain-arms-saudi-arabia An interesting article on Glenrothes & its relationship to the arms industry (the only good jobs are either with Fife Council or Raytheon, where they are making chips for smart bombs used in murdering civilians in Yemen)
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Total Meatlove posted:Prestwick are gonna have to take down that Pure Dead Brilliant sign at the airport aren’t they Prestwick airport. Man that takes me back. When I travelled to Scotland I always uses to fly into Glasgow Prestwick. Ryanair stopped doing flights there around 2014/2015. I think they were mostly using it for flying cargo, but I believe there was a air route to Poland that still flew through there. It was a grand little airport. In other news Priti Patel is facing quite a large number of bullying allegations. https://jrnl.ie/5032300 I am sure that if it was a criminal case where an accused had faced this many allegations, Patel would have already decided their guilt. And tried to push for the death penalty. But since this is just workplace bullying, it's not a real thing and all the people making up these allegations are just doing it because they couldn't hack working with her. Or something.
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Prince John posted:They won't do anything if my friend's experience is anything to go by. It's a sorry tale involving exploitation of the vulnerable elderly, 20+ repeated burglaries and the van traced as registered to an official traveller site. The police point blank told them they would do nothing because the perpetrators were travellers. Police laziness aside, confiscation of someone's home and all worldly possessions is not a reasonable punishment for suspicion of burglary. Also, go gently caress yourself.
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Ah yes, Glasgow Prestwick. An airport about the same distance to Glasgow as Sheffield is to Derby.
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ronya posted:This makes it unlikely that the criminalisation mandate would be altered - it's hard to argue with general election victories - but that point on requiring the land owner's permission to expel unauthorized trespassers might have promise. There's a lot of absentee landowners out there in suburban England. I expect it to achieve precisely gently caress and/or all, but maybe someone might see it and think "are we going to piss off the rural seats with this?" Or just ignore me because the county shires go blue even if the candidate is a cauliflower. goddamnedtwisto posted:Surely they're sterilised?
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Guavanaut posted:I responded in character as the Rural Rambler. Didn't say a thing about Gypsy or Traveller sites until those specific questions, all the rest were I answered that we should bring in a Nordic style 'right to roam' and that accessing our precious countryside and inland waters should not be a crime and police shouldn't take people's stuff unless it's directly part of a criminal act. Don't need to look as far as the Nordic Style, you have the Scottish Style right over the border there.
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I did say "like in Scotland" in part of it, but iirc there's more limitations compared to Scandinavia.
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I haven't noted a particularly strong ability to think of 'consequences' (intended or otherwise) amongst the electorate.
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Guavanaut posted:police shouldn't take people's stuff unless it's directly part of a criminal act. 1970s Flying Squad whole-heartedly agree.
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