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Ambaire posted:I guess my mistake was assuming it was intended to be insulting. some of the posts on here.. can't tell whether people are being serious or sarcastic or who knows what the gently caress It is intended to be insulting. Gearlord (noun): A pejorative used by goons to describe someone with an extremely expensive kit Its usage is kind of ironic because a lot of goons are consistently gearlords themselves or are trying to become financially secure enough to become gearlords. How have you not just understood its meaning via context? It's used on pretty much every single page of this thread.
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I don't think he actually plays the game outside of the flea market.
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:The best way to 'play' the flea market is to barter scam, i'm currently at 13 red rebels i refuse to sell because of the 3.5 million tax I don’t know if anyone suggested this yet (I didn’t see it) but you can just throw them up on the flea for the equivalent price or less in barter items (ledx or paracord preferably) and you won’t incur the fun tax.
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Honest question for Ambaire, Is the market money making strategy you mostly use just buying and reselling to vendors for minor profit just at huge scale, or is it the more traditional “market pvp” of buying things out and re-listing / waiting for the market to spike? I get that people like seeing the money number go up, but really don’t see the appeal of spending all my play time clicking thru menus.
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HORSEPORN posted:I don’t know if anyone suggested this yet (I didn’t see it) but you can just throw them up on the flea for the equivalent price or less in barter items (ledx or paracord preferably) and you won’t incur the fun tax. Alternatively, you can put them on the flea market for barter items that vastly outweigh the price of the item. Since it's an icepick, you might as well barter for a THICC case because of course a new player is gonna trade you their THICC case for an icepick. What good value! Nobody understands the economy, you might as well trade stuff you don't need for things you do need.
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:The best way to 'play' the flea market is to barter scam, i'm currently at 13 red rebels i refuse to sell because of the 3.5 million tax unless you get your jollies from the stash value number, did you actually make money? because if you won't sell it unless something that almost certainly won't change changes it looks like you're just holding useless inventory (and roubles in a money case are more space efficient than a RR) you should either set up "fair" barters to get rid of them or just eat the loss LGD fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Mar 4, 2020 |
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Mar 4, 2020 22:52
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ComradeBigT posted:Honest question for Ambaire, Basically, a mix of this strat quote:If these items are at or below those prices on the flea market, you can buy them and sell them to peacekeeper to convert rubles to dollars at a ratio better than buying dollars from peacekeeper directly. quote:I hate to share since it means ~competition~, but it'd also give me an extra incentive to start playing the actual loving game. quote:I made at least 2-3mil this weekend just by buying 6b47 helmets for up to 25k after the vendor trade reset, filling my EoD stash with ~140 of them, and relisting for 30k. They'd all sell within the last hour before trader reset and I'd do it again. Also made another 2mil by buying ADARs and M4A1 lowers, making wood M4A1s with the adar parts, and selling the m4a1s for 53k ish on flea and the adar lowers to mechanic. And camping a certain category of gun on the flea market, buying everything under a certain value or with various mods under a different profit margin, disassembling them, then selling the good selling stuff on the flea and vendoring the rest. To give the second part of your question an answer, basically all the stories of server issues / etc made me not really want to play the actual game but the market was a decent skinner box equivalent with no real downsides or 'losses' to be had.
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ComradeBigT posted:Honest question for Ambaire, i dunno its kinda fun sometimes to play with game economies and ill do some instead of actually playing sometimes when i cant/dont want to commit to full raids where i cant just leave. no where close to the ridiculous liquidity ambaire managed but i keep myself floating around 8 mil so i never have gear fear
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Sultan Tarquin posted:
That M4's mother was also its sister.
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LGD posted:unless you get your jollies from the stash value number, did you actually make money? ye i was thinking about fair barters but goddamn is it annoying to wait for people to sort through a billion orders to buy one of your stupid axe things. I'm currently at 120m rubles and i've bought several thicc items cases that i don't even use and i'm still too risk averse to use the T-7 because i know as soon as i put it on some hacking nooblord is gonna smoke me. i just enjoy gimmicks in games, it's not fun to do what all the normies do, i need to do something innovative or exploit something or piss people off and I found out a cool consistent(ish) way to get barter scams, and RR is by far the best item to barter scam with (it's expensive, and it's the one item the most people are gonna have).
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:I found out a cool consistent(ish) way to get barter scams
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ShowTime posted:I'll never use a shotgun after hitting someone with 15 shots and completely destroying their armor, but not getting the kills. I get how shotguns work. I get how ammo works. I've just had bad experiences with them. LEGS, BAYBEE
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ComradeBigT posted:Honest question for Ambaire, Not him but I can answer. It’s a bit of both. Stocking up on smoke grenades is decent for example because they will go up 4-5k a piece whenever prapor’s stock gets bought out. This happens pretty much every prime time because people are smacking the smoke grenade together with m67’s to make green powder to craft m955. Likewise, dfuel can drop down to as low as 100k but spike to 130/140. Propane is also especially volatile and will drop to 45/50k but spike back up to 70/80 as the red rebel barter comes off cooldown. Another method is simply buying up guns that have expensive parts newer players are too dumb to take off. You often find tx-15’s for sale relatively cheap with the 40k AR barrel on them. Same with the m1a and it’s RSASS variants. Other things worth checking out are the mounts/skullocks for NVG’s as people will list them with the actual nvg’s on for some reason. It’s always going to be a lot of clicking but there are also some vendor trades that still have profit you can make. 2xmcable to prapor for the big raid backpack is normally a 40k profit, bartering a red rebel then reposting it for ledx’s is viable and seems to net me a cool million every time since I’m avoiding massive fees, the sub machine gun with the HAMR (or bravo I forget) is also a very profitable trade if it’s not out of stock. Also, helixes are everywhere and the price on them often drops to ~11k so you can manage a nice 40-80k profit by trading ten of them to jaeger for a REAP-IR. Finally, if you really hate yourself but don’t mind clicking a bunch while waiting for a friend to get out of raid or something: mechanic has a trade for a glock that requires a circuit board and two broken gphones. It’s been a while since I’ve done it but iirc as long as the gphones cost you less than 18k and the circuit board around 11k you can do the trade infinitely (since it has no stock or limit for some reason) and then disassemble the gun. If you vendor the parts appropriately (therapist>skier>mechanic in order of buy priority always) you will at least break even and have a pix12 reflex sight left over. You can horde these and sell them for between 10-15k a pop depending on the time of day. Heavy disclaimer on this one is that I haven’t bothered with it in about a month so someone else might have figured it out and just botted the process to eliminate the market. I did notice pix12’s hit 9k last night but they almost immediately rebounded to 15k so ymmv. HORSEPORN fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Mar 4, 2020 |
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HORSEPORN posted:Not him but I can answer. It’s a bit of both. Stocking up on smoke grenades is decent for example because they will go up 4-5k a piece whenever prapor’s stock gets bought out. This happens pretty much every prime time because people are smacking the smoke grenade together with m67’s to make green powder to craft m955. Likewise, dfuel can drop down to as low as 100k but spike to 130/140. Propane is also especially volatile and will drop to 45/50k but spike back up to 70/80 as the red rebel barter comes off cooldown. this is really all good advice if you wanna be a market boy
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:this is really all good advice if you wanna be a market boy Unfortunately I’m the Sherpa for my group of friends which tends to end up with me running around in an AVS with some lovely ak and a dick helm while I lead them from point a to point b finishing their quests. Herding s pack of 2-3 stomping idiots around while I’m 50 yards in front of them will end with me taking an early dirtnap every couple of times but I still have to stick around at my headset to give them google maps directions to the quest areas and extractions. This has given me far too much time to play the idle clicking to make money game which is fine because dropping them red rebels and teaching them reserve gives me an easier money run to Sherpa them through that I don’t mind slapping the zhuk and airframes on for. Edit: I forgot to mention it but once you have the 7.62x39 BP round unlocked from prapor you should be buying your restock of 300. You can run it through an off-meta akm and do well against everything except t6 armors or just horde it for the weekend when the price will normally jump up to around 1k. HORSEPORN fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Mar 4, 2020 |
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Ambaire posted:I guess my mistake was assuming it was intended to be insulting. some of the posts on here.. can't tell whether people are being serious or sarcastic or who knows what the gently caress yes I see where you were going as anything intentionally insulting must be racism
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HORSEPORN posted:Not him but I can answer. It’s a bit of both. Stocking up on smoke grenades is decent for example because they will go up 4-5k a piece whenever prapor’s stock gets bought out. This happens pretty much every prime time because people are smacking the smoke grenade together with m67’s to make green powder to craft m955. Likewise, dfuel can drop down to as low as 100k but spike to 130/140. Propane is also especially volatile and will drop to 45/50k but spike back up to 70/80 as the red rebel barter comes off cooldown. also I really can't say it enough - if you actually play the game beyond level 4 and have gotten your traders to a high level and done relevant quests to unlock ammo types and the like you can easily clear over a million roubles per trader reset cycle in a lazy, idiot-proof manner by just buying out and relisting a bunch of limited personal supply vendor poo poo (especially Peacekeeper dollar-denominated items) at a price that will clear late in the trader reset timer taking advantage of favorable trades, barter scams, spotting bargains/mispriced items/things that vendor for more than asking, and buying low/selling high are all great ways to make money, but you can earn huge % gains by just doing things like brainlessly buying 100 rounds of M62 every time it's available and relisting for twice the price LGD fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Mar 5, 2020 |
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:
The first one with a very acceptable 40 ergo just slays me.
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LGD posted:also I really can't say it enough - if you actually play the game beyond level 4 and have gotten your traders to a high level and done relevant quests to unlock ammo types and the like you can easily clear over a million roubles per trader reset cycle in a lazy, idiot-proof manner by just buying out and relisting a bunch of limited personal supply vendor poo poo (especially Peacekeeper dollar-denominated items) at a price that will clear late in the trader reset timer Yep. You can also get a huge head start financially by completing private clinic for therapist and selling your THICC case for a 10+ million profit. A lot of people will tell you to play this game how you want and that’s cool but you definitely want to be questing until at least ll4 for all your vendors. I’m just listing easy ways to make money most people will have done (prapor level 4 and mechanic lvl 3 are super easy to obtain and most of the trades i listed are from them.) You can play the market all day if you’d like but nothing is going to be more profitable than just doing your quests or doing stuff like shoreline cache runs or other relatively low-risk stuff If you still have gear fear.
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HORSEPORN posted:Yep. You can also get a huge head start financially by completing private clinic for therapist and selling your THICC case for a 10+ million profit. A lot of people will tell you to play this game how you want and that’s cool but you definitely want to be questing until at least ll4 for all your vendors. I’m just listing easy ways to make money most people will have done (prapor level 4 and mechanic lvl 3 are super easy to obtain and most of the trades i listed are from them.) This is the first wipe I've actually bothered questing and getting my Trader levels up and it really is huge even if you never play the market just because you can buy so much poo poo "at cost." And I'm only at LL3 with Prapor/Therapist at the highest! Learning the "free" barters to get their money reqs dealt with was also very helpful. Tetriz > Bitcoin for Mech/Therapist, Cat Figurine (for 35k or under) > AKS-74UB for Prapor/Skier/Mech (remove the silencers and sell them to Skier, then sell the rest of the gun to Mech) (this one needs Prapor LL2.) EDIT: There are also good flea market plays for Skier that will at least break even, but I'll keep that just to the Discord where I learned it. Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Mar 5, 2020 |
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Inspector_666 posted:This is the first wipe I've actually bothered questing and getting my Trader levels up and it really is huge even if you never play the market just because you can buy so much poo poo "at cost." And I'm only at LL3 with Prapor/Therapist at the highest! dont forget buying antique axes off the market and selling them to jaeger for his
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Stux posted:dont forget buying antique axes off the market and selling them to jaeger for his Thank you for this, I've been just dumping whatever I can on Jaeger lately and it suuuuucks.
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At one point I was buying gun barrels from jaeger and selling to skier at a loss just so I could level them both up. Cost me a couple hundred grand but it got the job done quickly.
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lol I think level 3->4 Jaeger for me was just buying a giant pile of vudu scopes that I’ve slowly been working through worth it for the AP-20 I think
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Inspector_666 posted:This is the first wipe I've actually bothered questing and getting my Trader levels up and it really is huge even if you never play the market just because you can buy so much poo poo "at cost." And I'm only at LL3 with Prapor/Therapist at the highest! Another barter that’s not really “for profit” but is useful for quests like “shooter born in heaven” is on mechanic: He has two SKS trades, an OPSKS and a normal one. I don’t remember which is which but one requires a military filter and the other requires a GP coin. Do both of those trades and then swap the stocks on the guns. You will end up with an OPSKS premounted with a dovetail, a tapco stock, and a 20 round mag. Slap your choice of sight on the dovetail and the tapco can also mount a foregrip and a canted sight. The other sks will still kinda suck but you can just sell it or throw it away on gently caress around runs. Also, if you have stash room and plan on doing quests a decent way to level jaeger is to just buy a bunch of mp-153 shotguns (if you can not sure if it’s LL4) or saigas. You’ll be using these for a peacekeeper quest to kill scavs on shoreline with shotgun headshots and a skier quest to kill 20scavs/10pmcs with silenced shotguns. The shoreline quest is easily doable in a raid or two but finishing the 10pmc quest is kind of luck of the draw that depends on not running into groups of players running t5+ unless you’re some sort of headshot machine and they’re oblivious. It’s worth it to keep a few saigas or 153’s because it might take you a few raids and you’ll probably get at least the gun back in insurance anyway due to the size and price. The other shotguns are cool but the saiga and 153 outclass them in drat near every situation, plus the 153 with a silencer just sounds so drat nice when you pull the trigger for that head tap. HORSEPORN fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Mar 5, 2020 |
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Protip: I heard grenade kills count for kill quests as long as you have your main weapon out. Also apparently grenades can explode at a person feet and not kill them... which happened to me today on interchange. I no longer have any idea how grenades work.
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twig1919 posted:Protip: I heard grenade kills count for kill quests as long as you have your main weapon out. I hate that I’m every other post right now but whatever. Grenades function by producing shrapnel that causes the vast majority of their damage. There is still a very small central sphere of maybe 2-3 meters where if you’re standing on top of the grenade you will die. You can even lay on top of them and eat the entire shrapnel charge for your squad so they won’t die if you’re stuck in an enclosed room. Whether this death zone exists because the grenade simply has a kill zone or you’re eating massive amounts of shrapnel I can’t really say. If you inspect a grenade it actually tells you how much shrapnel it throws when it explodes. Each bit of shrapnel will cause a certain amount of damage to whatever limb it hits. Normally, it will black out your legs/arms (or stomach depending on your armor) and deal enough overflow damage to them that it one shots your head because the head only has 35 hp. If you lack stomach armor you’re especially vulnerable because the stomach will disperse more damage to the rest of your body once it’s blacked out than your legs or arms will. When the grenade explodes it will throw its shrapnel in random (I hope a weighted random...) directions in a sphere around it. Think of it as a bubble around the grenade, if it blows up in the air the pieces will fly out inside the bubble, if it is resting on the ground then the shrapnel will only fly in the half bubble above it and will ignore the bottom half. This makes grenades that are resting on the ground twice as lethal if not three times as lethal as grenades that explode above you. If you are lucky you’ll avoid most of the shrapnel and survive the grenade. You can also kind of exploit this knowledge. If a grenade is thrown at you and you’re stuck in a room you can move yourself a few meters away from the grenade and go prone with your feet facing the explosion. You will normally end up with at least two blacked out limbs but the way the shrapnel disperses combined with your horizontal player model means you will most likely avoid most of the explosion and survive. If you’re standing you’ll most likely soak the majority of the hits and die. Grenade landing spots are also desynced unless the grenade was specifically bound to a key and pulled out before it was tossed. If you’re just pressing the default key bind to toss a nade then the grenade’s arc actually begins at your navel instead of your hand. This is why sometimes you’ll try to throw a grenade out of a window only for it to travel its full path before teleporting back to your feet and exploding. The server sees the grenade leaving from your stomach but your actual client side model always shows the trajectory as if it left your hand. HORSEPORN fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Mar 5, 2020 |
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HORSEPORN posted:When the grenade explodes it will throw its shrapnel in random (I hope a weighted random...) directions in a sphere around it. Think of it as a bubble around the grenade, if it blows up in the air the pieces will fly out inside the bubble, if it is resting on the ground then the shrapnel will only fly in the half bubble above it and will ignore the bottom half. Also worth bearing in mind that projectiles do ricochet in this game, and I have never heard a grenade go off without also hearing most of its shrapnel go bouncing around the room. Might be the case that the ground eats some of the projectiles and bounces the rest.
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HORSEPORN posted:If you’re just pressing the default key bind to toss a nade then the grenade’s arc actually begins at your navel instead of your hand. :tarkov: to the max.
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HORSEPORN posted:I hate that I’m every other post right now but whatever. Thank you, this was actually super useful. I will still die, but now be able to conceptualize why very well.
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All these market tips are definitely proving useful. I haven’t been too concerned with farming for money so far, but the limited stock stuff from traders has been pretty easy money between runs. I also gotta thank whoever mentioned that you can stack cases inside cases using backpacks. It’s kinda broken how much free space I’m getting to further horde armored rigs and all the other poo poo I should sell.
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HORSEPORN posted:Grapefruit info... I see. For some reason I thought the majority of the damage came from the explosion radius but I guess I was mistaken. Is it true that shrapnel just ignores the existence o of armor completely? I must have just low rolled on the shrapnel roll and barely not killed him cause it literally exploded less than 1m away from him in a small box... I might have to start doubling up on grenade throws to guarantee the finish.
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aniviron posted:Might be the case that the ground eats some of the projectiles and bounces the rest. just like in real life learning how to throw grenades to air burst them is poggers and pogchamp
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Nikita on stream right now saying that stamina is going to be divided between arms and legs, which is p cool.
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Ice Fist posted:Nikita on stream right now saying that stamina is going to be divided between arms and legs, which is p cool. Arm stamina!!
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Priorities: tbf he talked about server stability for about 20 minutes
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