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https://twitter.com/StefWilliams25/status/1235219307820388352 man, that's a lot of bad dates! All I have is this extremely successful long-term relationship with my wife starting from college and lasting over a decade since then with no sign of slowing down man I feel pretty owned right now
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Communist Thoughts posted:whats weird is bernie has loads of strengths that corbyn didnt but then his campaign is running the corbyn playbook anyway That's because the moderates aren't willing to let the left lead. We can have moderates in our voting coalition if our coalition is moderates in charge with the left being captive voters, but not if the left ever wants to be even equal partners.
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Mar 5, 2020 15:18
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it is incredible that the democrats have sucked so long that the republicans themselves had to split with them and absorb the leftover whigs before the civil war. the real OG
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Mar 5, 2020 15:22
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like a hum in the background they’ve just always had at their core essential succ
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Mar 5, 2020 15:23
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Phigs posted:That's because the moderates aren't willing to let the left lead. We can have moderates in our voting coalition if our coalition is moderates in charge with the left being captive voters, but not if the left ever wants to be even equal partners. im not talking about like moderate candidates, media or politicians or whatever, they're doomed, moderate voters can be swung though especially since a lot of leftwing stuff, especially bernie's platform is just common sense stuff. the campaign framing it as revolutionary rather than just new deal dem or whatever was a mistake imo. what we're pretty clearly seeing is that scared people go for stability over revolution.
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Mar 5, 2020 15:24
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left candidates have to play nice and be saints because capital control of the media that liberal normies watch is all pervasive conservatives/right wingers have lost faith in traditional media and thats why CNN/MSNBC crying about nasty ol trump has no effect on them. even FOX was massively anti trump during the republican primaries and it didnt matter mush brain and senile old libs watch those channels all day and if you had a huey long type instead of sanders they'd go ham on him and sanders wouldn't even be in the near-tie striking distance delegate position he is now. the problem isn't the message, chopping and changing and refining it is rearranging deck chairs, the problem is CONTROL OF THE MEDIUM
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Mar 5, 2020 15:25
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Lord of Pie posted:One thing I've discovered this cycle is that every Star Trek cast member is succ as hell I don't really understand the idiot centrist Dem argument of "We need to bring moderate Republicans to our side" ignoring that a. moderate Republicans barely exist b. even if most Americans hate him, Trump has very high approval among Republicans c. even if such shifts could happen in significant numbers, so-called disillusioned Republicans change their minds more quickly than a teenage boy develops new crushes. How about we maybe possibly work towards firing up likely Dem voters, new voter outreach, etc, and not aiming for dumbass conservatives who detest Biden, Bernie, and every other liberal-aligned politician in the nation?
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Mar 5, 2020 15:25
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Gotta just secure those new votes folks. *new votes are phantom votes that only exist in the hq which is revealed to be a bunker* They will be coming to save us any day now!
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Mar 5, 2020 15:28
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Communist Thoughts posted:the campaign framing it as revolutionary rather than just new deal dem or whatever was a mistake imo. what we're pretty clearly seeing is that scared people go for stability over revolution. the media is not going to stop framing Sanders as a radical just because he says he isn't one
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Mar 5, 2020 15:29
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Lawman 0 posted:Gotta just secure those new votes folks. the succ is coming from inside the zone
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Mar 5, 2020 15:30
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Communist Thoughts posted:whats weird is bernie has loads of strengths that corbyn didnt but then his campaign is running the corbyn playbook anyway Bleh, it's me the Moderate Candidate that just stops the olds from reading the Daily Mail. You absolutely do need to run on revolution, because you need to excite people to knock doors for you. The media won't do that for you even if you make your health care plan shittier and you promise to bomb a few more countries. loquacius posted:https://twitter.com/StefWilliams25/status/1235219307820388352 She certainly seems like a good judge of character.
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Mar 5, 2020 15:31
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mila kunis posted:the succ is coming from inside the zone Keep loving that chicken
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Mar 5, 2020 15:32
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Eponymouse posted:Regarding this and how nearly half of voters decide who to vote for a few days before the election, I've been thinking, what if caucuses aren't such a bad idea? You have to take time to think about who you're going to vote for, you get to hear people argue the case for other candidates, you can change your mind. I'm not saying they are better in general or they're feasible on a large scale, just that in a country as uniquely dumb as the United States with its diseased, deliberately misinforming media culture, maybe forcing people to take time to deliberate who they'll vote for isn't such a bad thing. secret balloting is sacrosanct to a valid election and welp caucuses are not that so no, absolutely not
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:I don't really understand the idiot centrist Dem argument of "We need to bring moderate Republicans to our side" ignoring that a. moderate Republicans barely exist b. even if most Americans hate him, Trump has very high approval among Republicans c. even if such shifts could happen in significant numbers, so-called disillusioned Republicans change their minds more quickly than a teenage boy develops new crushes. How about we maybe possibly work towards firing up likely Dem voters, new voter outreach, etc, and not aiming for dumbass conservatives who detest Biden, Bernie, and every other liberal-aligned politician in the nation? Because Dems live in a terrible world where people don't actually want change, they want a people to get things done which means going to the right at all times. Low voting turnouts and them consistently losing to the worst people on the planet is  And when there is a chance that a candidate could do that there is endless hand wringing of "Electability" and "Too far left!"
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Succbot Circlejerk posted:gently caress you I'm not giving you six and a half minutes of my life to watch your dumbass YouTuber personality anti Trump video drat you missed out on a good vid, sorry about your zoomer brain
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Mar 5, 2020 15:34
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Lawman 0 posted:Gotta just secure those new votes folks. I mean even if we grant that there are no new votes to be tapped out there, then you'd at least need to win over every Democrat voter who sat out 2016 because Clinton sucked and Biden isn't going to do that, either
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Mar 5, 2020 15:35
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You're going to be shocked to hear this but there are once again exit poll irregularities http://tdmsresearch.com/2020/03/02/south-carolina-2020-democratic-party-primary/ No idea how reliable/meaningful this is but take a guess who benefitted.
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Mar 5, 2020 15:37
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gradenko_2000 posted:I mean even if we grant that there are no new votes to be tapped out there, then you'd at least need to win over every Democrat voter who sat out 2016 because Clinton sucked I mean definitely which is why Bernie needs to pivot to a direct electability arguement.
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Acelerion posted:You're going to be shocked to hear this but there are once again exit poll irregularities http://tdmsresearch.com/2020/03/02/south-carolina-2020-democratic-party-primary/ Diebold strikes again
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Mar 5, 2020 15:39
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Mar 5, 2020 15:39
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if turnout here had been higher than say 30%, they would only finish voting roughly in time for the 2024 olympics. which is again a feature not a bug. they don't want young uns voting and the young uns correctly say well gently caress you then pal. im off to chase some tail, do some tik toking. i don't know how young people speak but you get the idea.
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Mar 5, 2020 15:40
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Communist Thoughts posted:im not talking about like moderate candidates, media or politicians or whatever, they're doomed, moderate voters can be swung though especially since a lot of leftwing stuff, especially bernie's platform is just common sense stuff. I think there's sense to what you're saying, but there's also massive dividends to being seen as the "change candidate", and to a large extent Bernie's approach has been baked in for decades. He is an anti-establishment figure, and the strategy of this movement has always been to build a political, well, movement that lasts beyond a single election. Let's not write a post-mortem just yet, as this campaign is still very much alive.
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Mar 5, 2020 15:41
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PhilippAchtel posted:I think there's sense to what you're saying, but there's also massive dividends to being seen as the "change candidate", and to a large extent Bernie's approach has been baked in for decades. He is an anti-establishment figure, and the strategy of this movement has always been to build a political, well, movement that lasts beyond a single election. It absolutely blows my mind that people wanted Buttigieg because he was the "outside the establishment candidate." Motherfucker was like he was grown in a vat next to the filing cabinet Dinesh D'Souza found marked "CRIMES" in the DNC basement.
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Mar 5, 2020 15:43
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love how some people saw the light that Hillary was a lovely disliked centrist candidate and enough people stuck their heads in the sand and had their minds completely blown when she lost, then after 4 years of being repeatedly told "your candidate lost because she sucked and too many people didn't want to vote for her so don't run a loving loser next time" enough voters did the exact same loving thing and appear to be choosing an even more dislikeable centrist loser with an even more demented brain
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Mar 5, 2020 15:44
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breitbart was calling mike motherfucking bloomberg a communist, Bernie claiming to be moderate wouldn’t mean poo poo and there’s no reason for him to try imo
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the super tuesday problem, and our problem generally as leftists, is not a moderate vs. leftist ideology problem. if people voted based on declared policy preferences we'd have won years ago. left policy positions are hugely popular. the problem is that this is not an issue-focused race. read those stories from FOs. people prefer bernie, but vote biden, because the only thing that matters to the democratic primary electorate is getting rid of trump. and the media has very successfully convinced a lot of people that bernie can't win. i have knocked probably 300+ doors this cycle. when i ask people what their most important issue is, it's overwhelmingly "beating trump." that is what people want, that is what is driving them to the polls and spiking turnout. they want trump out. everything else is secondary. biden, simply by being the "beating trump" candidate, is winning those people. in order to win, therefore, we need to show that biden can't beat trump, and that means going negative.
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Streak posted:love how some people saw the light that Hillary was a lovely disliked centrist candidate and enough people stuck their heads in the sand and had their minds completely blown when she lost, then after 4 years of being repeatedly told "your candidate lost because she sucked and too many people didn't want to vote for her so don't run a loving loser next time" enough voters did the exact same loving thing and appear to be choosing an even more dislikeable centrist loser with an even more demented brain There is always the sense that she lost because of "Russia," "Comey," "Emails" which is true that they definitely contributed but are a mere speck compared to the glaring issues she had otherwise. She was a bad candidate with bad policies, one of each of those is enough to lose or win depending on other factors, but both is mind blowing for the establishment to rally round.
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OxySnake posted:There is always the sense that she lost because of "Russia," "Comey," "Emails" which is true that they definitely contributed but are a mere speck compared to the glaring issues she had otherwise. almost seems like the establishment doesnt really mind losing to Trump as long as Bernie doesn't win or something democracy in action. you love to see it!
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Gunshow Poophole posted:secret balloting is sacrosanct to a valid election and welp caucuses are not that so no, absolutely not Is it though? Recorded votes are not at all uncommon in many contexts. An open vote process like a caucus or floor vote presents opportunities for consensus-building and a built-in transparency in exchange for its obvious deficiencies like possibility for intimidation and difficulty of access. I understand your point, but I don't think secret ballot is quite as sacrosanct as you say.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:the super tuesday problem, and our problem generally as leftists, is not a moderate vs. leftist ideology problem. if people voted based on declared policy preferences we'd have won years ago. left policy positions are hugely popular. this is the correct assessment imo. this is an electability campaign and not an issues campaign. Bernie is already agreed to be the best issues candidate by the electorate. he needs to crush Biden’s invincibility aura
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Lightning Knight posted:this is the correct assessment imo. this is an electability campaign and not an issues campaign. Bernie is already agreed to be the best issues candidate by the electorate. he needs to crush Biden’s invincibility aura This is why the Obama ad is cool and good.
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loquacius posted:https://twitter.com/StefWilliams25/status/1235219307820388352 I too love not realizing that I'm the common factor in all my lovely relationships
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OxySnake posted:It absolutely blows my mind that people wanted Buttigieg because he was the "outside the establishment candidate." this is always going to happen, people like to choose a candidate that they feel good about and then find a way to rationalize all of their positions that dont fit their personal ideology. buttegeig also fits with why people backed kerry when he was obviously a wet napkin of a candidate. they thought his military background would give them a bunch of bush voters since he was a draft dodger, but that was never going to happen because the right puts party over identity. dems are obsessed with candidates that they think some imaginary right wing voter will like, they give up on everything chasing that year after year.
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Streak posted:love how some people saw the light that Hillary was a lovely disliked centrist candidate and enough people stuck their heads in the sand and had their minds completely blown when she lost, then after 4 years of being repeatedly told "your candidate lost because she sucked and too many people didn't want to vote for her so don't run a loving loser next time" enough voters did the exact same loving thing and appear to be choosing an even more dislikeable centrist loser with an even more demented brain yeah it owns cant wait for biden to wander off stage during the middle of a debate and the dems will spend the next week explaining it was intentional and nothing is wrong.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:the super tuesday problem, and our problem generally as leftists, is not a moderate vs. leftist ideology problem. if people voted based on declared policy preferences we'd have won years ago. left policy positions are hugely popular. if "we have to get rid of trump" is allowed to dominate our political imagination, what are we going to do in 2024 when trump 2.0 is running
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Serf posted:if "we have to get rid of trump" is allowed to dominate our political imagination, what are we going to do in 2024 when trump 2.0 is running Probably lose
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I am going to erect 1,000,000 new voters from clay, bring them to animation with the Word of Life, then have them all vote for Bernie
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Mar 5, 2020 15:54
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weird how the joe rogan endorsement got so much more ink than this, wonder why???? https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1235231527191093250
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Serf posted:if "we have to get rid of trump" is allowed to dominate our political imagination, what are we going to do in 2024 when trump 2.0 is running lose a few DRUNK BONERS posted:Probably lose 
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the cycle of life and death has been perturbed. the order of nature must be restored. this is why I am a Necromancer 4 Bernie.
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