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Mar 6, 2020 16:10
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It's a beautiful day outside to play vampire
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The secret of Hunter social services is basically 'okay, what service would the government provide to law-abiding monsters in an ideal world' followed by 'and how would they gently caress it up through a combination of not understanding monsters, not being funded, and being controlled by American politics'
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Honestly they'd probably be fairly self-funding, similar to how the Men In Black movies do it, where they'd exchange supernatural ephemera for services, which are then laundered through various & sundry grey markets. if you hang out with wizards long enough eventually one of them will magick together a pile of gold coins, you know? edit- vampiric blood bank feeds you three points but takes back one to maintain their ghoul army with.
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:thank you mors, i realize now you're totally right. getting them to recognize even the idea of "neither male nor female" was enough of a challenge, they probably would not accomodate monsters with mutable flesh even in the slightest. OTOH, Vampires are semiotically deeply linked to ruling classes, so they could also justifiably have super privileges like how rich people can skip security at the airport.
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Archonex posted:So remember when I bitched about the art in the V5 core book? How I said a lot of it outside of Swedracula and friends cosplaying looked like concept art? I appreciate the Queen of the Damned soundtrack.
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GimpInBlack posted:The best part about VASCU is definitely that, implicitly, there is at least one Public Defender's Office that specializes in Dracula crimes. But this? This right here is the best form of shadow government: the shadow social services. Mors Rattus posted:Basically, I've interacted with Social Services enough myself to understand that this both has to exist and would be incredibly frustrating to deal with and be part of. You would have to change very, very little to run this in Geist 2E.
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Mors Rattus posted:The secret of Hunter social services is basically 'okay, what service would the government provide to law-abiding monsters in an ideal world' followed by 'and how would they gently caress it up through a combination of not understanding monsters, not being funded, and being controlled by American politics' IMO you'd probably see a lot of confidential monster identities leaked to the private sector just by virtue of how things work here. Like what, Medicare Extra Strength (for the 200+ years old) gets taken down as a side-effect of state budget cuts, and no one notices that the records were transferred to insurance companies by default. Their opaque state-of-the-art formulas choke on the otherworldly health statistics they've been given and the resulting premiums drive whole towns to bankruptcy. In the absence of any Dracula-informed public defender who isn't swamped with a dozen cases already, one plucky vampire takes it on himself to save his clan through the power of the American court system. Unfortunately much of his mind is still firmly stuck in the 1700s (hence why he thinks there's a chance). Can he learn the strange tongue of the millennials in time?
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Mar 6, 2020 20:43
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Bendigeidfran posted:IMO you'd probably see a lot of confidential monster identities leaked to the private sector just by virtue of how things work here. Sounds like a job for everyones favorite, Elder Hardluck!
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Mar 6, 2020 20:54
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Bendigeidfran posted:In the absence of any Dracula-informed public defender who isn't swamped with a dozen cases already, one plucky vampire takes it on himself to save his clan through the power of the American court system. Unfortunately much of his mind is still firmly stuck in the 1700s (hence why he thinks there's a chance). Can he learn the strange tongue of the millennials in time? "What the gently caress are you doing?" "It is known as the floss dance. I am doing it to quote, own, the judge." "That's..not...."
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Kurieg posted:"What the gently caress are you doing?" I'm honestly not sure if I'm glad or sad that my Malk player doesn't play Fortnite because I 100% know he would be flossing or dabbling on the prince at some point.
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Mar 6, 2020 21:07
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Mulva posted:I don't know, fangbanging some nobody doesn't really sound like Son of God Jesus, I think that guy might have known Kinfolk Jesus at best. What if it was this Jesus? https://www.reddit.com/r/nosleep/comments/ev3ib9/we_found_a_scroll_containing_an_eye_witness/
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Everyone posted:What if it was this Jesus? This Jesus has the most terrifying power of all. All those who witness his true form are cursed to incredibly long-winded and aimless prose. Wait, poo poo. Maybe it was this Jesus.
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Mar 6, 2020 22:12
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I imagine the obvious big payoff for VASCU is when that neurotic Ventrue and the Japanese videotape ghost you helped in stories 1 and 4 bail you out in story #9, "Against the World Crime League." Also, if blood bank blood works for vampires, they can just give vampires the stuff they collect but have to reject but isn't infectious. Distribution is probably the difficulty, although I also imagine it would taste gross. On the other hand, "you eat gross food" vs. "you do assaults and murders on the regular," not a hard choice
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Mar 6, 2020 22:25
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I Am Just a Box posted:This Jesus has the most terrifying power of all. All those who witness his true form are cursed to incredibly long-winded and aimless prose. Seriously. Good idea, horrid execution.
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Mar 6, 2020 22:58
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Archonex posted:So remember when I bitched about the art in the V5 core book? How I said a lot of it outside of Swedracula and friends cosplaying looked like concept art? I'm not a V5 fan, but when V5 launched, I was really taken with the fashion pictures in the Clan sections and asked Rose Bailey if they were from the MMO. She replied that they were indeed concept designs by Leslie Minnis, whose further work can be found here: https://leslieminnis.wordpress.com/character-design-3/.
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So this year, with a brief gap in my schedule, I'm finally finishing the novels and inputting the data (two step process - first you have to read the godawful thing while making frustratingly cryptic marks and comments in the margins, then go back and input it into the files. Why not do both at once? That requires you to read the entire thing at the desk, so you miss out on the surprisingly productive toilet read) for the ones I'd managed to miss doing so far. They're so bad (this is fiction of a quality where you have moments like forcing a vampire to drink blood by holding its nose so it can't breathe. A vampire.) and it's so tedious, though Richard Lee Byers wraith novels are actually readable if not particularly good and have a great way of both explaining and weaving in the shadowlands and stygia's quirks.
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moths posted:Why wouldn't OWoD Jesus have True Faith in, uh, himself? Interestingly, or not interestingly, while Revised walked back pants on head things (for the most part) in the Revised Silent Striders book they say that whatever Jesus was Wyrm creatures would keep at least a mile away from him at all times and the Israelite Striders would use him to ambush gribblies as they were flushed out.
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Dawgstar posted:Interestingly, or not interestingly, while Revised walked back pants on head things (for the most part) in the Revised Silent Striders book they say that whatever Jesus was Wyrm creatures would keep at least a mile away from him at all times and the Israelite Striders would use him to ambush gribblies as they were flushed out. Mage the Awakening strongly implies that religious figures of normal, non-Awakened religions have some kind of special harmony with the Fallen world, though I suppose I read that as mostly 'please don't make all religious figures Awakened and also please don't just declare all non-Awakened religious figures irrelevant.' Frankly I think it was an unnecessary note, unless the intent was to undercut the urgency of actually opposing the Exarchs. Which, sure, religious institutions certainly do that all the time but that's what Paternoster is for, don't imply Jesus (or insert-religious-figure-here) would have just gone along with the Demiurge(s). It's sort of part and parcel with the fact that Wisdom rather unsubtly suggests that not using magic to fight the Exarchs at all is the right thing to do; I don't think that's the opinion of the authors, but it appears to be the opinion of Wisdom. (Hubris is a coward's word.)
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I Am Just a Box posted:We'll have to differ on that. Conspiracies in Vigil do tend toward the greyer end of the spectrum than smaller organizations, partially because acquiring and controlling Endowments is fraught with compromise, and partially because larger organizations of people just generally tend towards being more faceless and self-propagating. But making your hunt be undermined by default is not a good way to pitch a Hunter game to players, and conspiracies have appeal beyond murky intrigue. The fundamental appeal of a Malleus Maleficarum priest isn't to get hosed around by self-serving cardinals, it is actually to be a priest who is trying to fight the shadows. The appeal of the Aegis Kai Doru isn't to be lost in Foucault's Pendulum, it is to seek out artifacts of power and keep them safe from misuse. Wait, so the photographs from Horror Recognition Guide are related to Cheiron? Where can I read about that? That's my favorite HRG story.
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Also, a bunch of Free Councillors in my home game have gotten to break out the magically enhanced guns and sleepwalker tactical squads for a ground war against the Seers, in secret to prevent abductions. The Libertines in question have a science fiction symbolic framework, so the enhancements are basically laser guns and futuristic materials. XCOM: Enemy GNON.
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Pope Guilty posted:Wait, so the photographs from Horror Recognition Guide are related to Cheiron? Where can I read about that? That's my favorite HRG story. There are typed notes interstrewn in Ten Photographs from an office that mentions "FPD." FPD is the Field Projects Division, the name of the Cheiron Group's monster-hunting department. A couple pages later there's a slip of paper in another typeface referring to the "Company" and the "Board of Directors," and later the "Group," immediately above a handwritten note that says "CHEIRON NDAS EXTEND BEYOND DEATH." There's further nods in the table of contents listing for the story. If you want the backstage look at what they were probably thinking of when they wrote the Cheiron involvement in Ten Photographs, read the Cheiron section in Compacts & Conspiracies. I don't recommend it. It is way less interesting than just imagining what's going on in Ten Photographs for yourself. I think it was Wood Ingham who wrote Ten Photographs? I Am Just a Box fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Mar 7, 2020 |
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I think I might still actually have my God-Machine Chronicle PDF lying around somewhere
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https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3916561 Deviant/Mortal recruiting up.
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I want to make sure, since I can't find an explicit reference in the book: Any given memorized Rote is tied to one specific Skill, right?
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That Old Tree posted:I want to make sure, since I can't find an explicit reference in the book: Any given memorized Rote is tied to one specific Skill, right? I believe so, yes.
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That Old Tree posted:I want to make sure, since I can't find an explicit reference in the book: Any given memorized Rote is tied to one specific Skill, right? Part of creating a rote using the Arcanum 5 Attainment is choosing a skill to encode in the rote, and anybody who learns that rote and uses its Mudras as a Yantra uses their dots in the encoded skill. Someone else could create a different rote version of the same spell and encode a different skill, of course, but each created rote has one and only one skill associated with it. And for character creation rotes you can generally pick which skill the rotes you learn had encoded, just assuming that your teacher or Order has a bunch of variants in their libraries.
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Really enjoying writing up custom kiths for my Changeling game, and really enjoying that even beyond the custom guidelines, the RAW Gristlegrinder kith basically just outright assures that it's impossible to get too specific with conditions.
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Hey all, got some more mechanics questions, specifically regarding magical healing - one of my players is about to get exploded, probably to the point where she's going to get put into a coma. Now, this isn't super exciting for her if she's bedridden for a couple weeks, so I'm going to take this opportunity to introduce them to someone who has a bit of talent healing with magic. Don't quite know how that works though. A cursory search found a spell called Healing Heart, that can straight-up heal aggravated damage, but that seems a little overpowered for this scenario (I'd rather not have the characters simply run to this guy every time they take some bad damage). But I don't know how it works, so maybe it can only be cast once a day? Anyway just looking at any source of healing that can help these guys out without unbalancing everything. Might just be a source of sidequest potential, if this guy demands something that they need to hunt down when they use his services. Additionally, are there changeling abilities that could do this?
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Morpheus posted:Hey all, got some more mechanics questions, specifically regarding magical healing - one of my players is about to get exploded, probably to the point where she's going to get put into a coma. Now, this isn't super exciting for her if she's bedridden for a couple weeks, so I'm going to take this opportunity to introduce them to someone who has a bit of talent healing with magic. Don't quite know how that works though. A cursory search found a spell called Healing Heart, that can straight-up heal aggravated damage, but that seems a little overpowered for this scenario (I'd rather not have the characters simply run to this guy every time they take some bad damage). But I don't know how it works, so maybe it can only be cast once a day? Changelings can absolutely do this with Goblin Contracts. One of my favorite uses of 1e's Goblin Contracts was playing a doctor who had a contract with wounds - he was able to heal them and remove them from people, but to do it he had to inflict a greater wound on something else in payment. This wasn't a big deal for small stuff, but for aggravated damage it might mean something like finding a large animal to carve up. I'd have to check how that'd work in 2e, if it would, but frankly unless you're running a Mage or Changeling game you don't have to care about the exact mechanics of Mage or Changeling respectively.
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Morpheus posted:Additionally, are there changeling abilities that could do this? In 2e the Spring Court has Royal Contracts that can do this. Specifically the Gift of Warm Blood can downgrade from aggravated to lethal, then from lethal to bashing as required. Edit: If you want to balance it you could always leave them at still having some damage from that contract or have the Changeling ask them for a Fae Bargain, healing in return for either something they can give or do for the changeling or an undisclosed favour in the future (likely to the tune of 'you owe me hide me from this Huntsman') Jade Mage fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Mar 9, 2020 |
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So, reading up on stuff like Changeling, would it make in-world sense if I had this NPC doctor be a changeling who demands particular objects tied with strong emotions in order to use them to recover the glamour that he spends on these healing contracts? The characters won't quite know what's going on, but it's something I can reveal to them over time which could add some depth to him, I think, as they figure out why he's requesting weird stuff like a discarded teddy bear, or a lost wedding ring, or a knife used in a murder, or whatever.
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Morpheus posted:So, reading up on stuff like Changeling, would it make in-world sense if I had this NPC doctor be a changeling who demands particular objects tied with strong emotions in order to use them to recover the glamour that he spends on these healing contracts? The characters won't quite know what's going on, but it's something I can reveal to them over time which could add some depth to him, I think, as they figure out why he's requesting weird stuff like a discarded teddy bear, or a lost wedding ring, or a knife used in a murder, or whatever. Yeah, Spring Court prefers Desire as an emotion but any emotions could work fine if they're strong enough. It's also worth noting the Contract I mentioned doesn't cost glamour if he adds his own blood to it
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If anyone is a patron for Rude Takes of Magic, their Masquerade game is fantastic. To understand the tone, there is a character named "Sephiroth Meatspreader".
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Inzombiac posted:If anyone is a patron for Rude Takes of Magic, their Masquerade game is fantastic.
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Inzombiac posted:If anyone is a patron for Rude Takes of Magic, their Masquerade game is fantastic. What is this? All I find is some podcast with no mention of Masquerade... I will say that I'm old and don't really "get" how podcasts work, mind.
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Fuzz posted:What is this? All I find is some podcast with no mention of Masquerade... I will say that I'm old and don't really "get" how podcasts work, mind. It's on their Patreon, you need to be giving them money to listen to the Masquerade game. The main podcast is a D&D game.
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I Am Just a Box posted:It's on their Patreon, you need to be giving them money to listen to the Masquerade game. The main podcast is a D&D game. And it comes from their $10 tier, not their $5 one. I peeled off my support for TAZ to give to RTOM.
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I'm (maybe) gonna join a Requiem 1E game after all these years.  I was told as a joke that I had to make a Nosferatur Carthian but I was all for that. I made a construction worker who got embraced by a Caporetti. I took a bit of inspiration from the horrible Hard Rock hotel story (https://nypost.com/2020/01/22/corpse-visible-in-new-orleans-hard-rock-hotel-debris-months-after-collapse/), my character got stuck there but was still barely alive when his sire climbed up to feed on the corpses. He got embraced and removed instead. He joined the Carthians soon after. I felt like that was the kind of dark story that fit into the WoD, although it might be a tasteless to take inspiration from a real-world event still on-going. I've played around a bit with the good old nWoD 1e character creation systyem, trying to abuse it but not too much because I think the othe rplayers don't have as much system mastery as me.
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