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hallebarrysoetoro posted:government already disappearing people in america just painting bro
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Mar 7, 2020 16:17
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Evergreeen said the CDC was endemic, I get it. Where did the CDC actually say this?
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Mar 7, 2020 16:17
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Mar 7, 2020 16:17
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Having lived in a country with labor shortages for the last 6 years or so, I don't even know what the big deal is. Just get a new job, geeeez
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Mar 7, 2020 16:18
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Bulgakov posted:haha so now that south by southwest got shutdown the next speculation is what will whats maybe the biggest sounding rodeo in america (?) gonna do?? I looked at their twitter and about every 3 days they tweet a reminder for people to wash their hands to stop spreading "germs"
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Mar 7, 2020 16:21
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ma i married a tuna posted:I just spoke to my parents in the Netherlands and they firmly believe fresh air will fix it, and in any case it's just the flu. When your normalcy bias is so bad you forget germ theory of disease lmao
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Mar 7, 2020 16:21
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The Alpha Centauri posted:not good The medical industry is so focused on profit and cost-shaving that they practice JIT inventory for a lot of stuff. In a supply-chain breakdown environment they are going to run out of stuff in a hurry. Several of the SNFs I work in tried to arrange discharges for certain days of the week in order to reduce the risk of having to buy meds/supplies for patients. They would end up with med and supply shortages regularly due to this.
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Mar 7, 2020 16:23
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Bip Roberts posted:what was that blog devoted to the shittiest architectural features on mcmansions because woof @ that arch Grovervirus, or GROVID-19 if you will
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Mar 7, 2020 16:23
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hallebarrysoetoro posted:government already disappearing people in america so people got dragged out "kicking and screaming", but the person taking pictures somehow couldn't get a picture of that
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Mar 7, 2020 16:24
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SchrodingersCat posted:Several of the SNFs I work in tried to arrange discharges for certain days of the week in order to reduce the risk of having to buy meds/supplies And predictable.
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Mar 7, 2020 16:24
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Foo Diddley posted:so people got dragged out "kicking and screaming", but the person taking pictures somehow couldn't get a picture of that THINK OF THE CLICKS BRO!
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Mar 7, 2020 16:25
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hallebarrysoetoro posted:government already disappearing people in america Are there world series tickets inside
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Mar 7, 2020 16:27
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Are they going to repurpose the death squads to shoot coronavirus patients instead of drug dealers or...?
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Mar 7, 2020 16:27
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Vishass posted:I looked at their twitter and about every 3 days they tweet a reminder for people to wash their hands to stop spreading "germs" China: completely locks down a whole province South Korea: Drive through testing of the masses Vietnam: Very strict border control, brings the number down to zero but for one dumb rich person Italy: Hospitals start to buckle under pressure, retired doctors are recruited in a massive effort to keep up US: Guys, wash your hands Netherlands: Just the flu, summer'll kill it Not to say that washing your hands is bad, washing your hands is supergood and you should do it often and right, but I think "Wash your hands" is going to be the "Duck and cover" of our time.
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Mar 7, 2020 16:27
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snoo posted:it's been real fun watching and keeping track of this since early january and knowing they could've slowed or stopped it, and instead chose not to
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Mar 7, 2020 16:27
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Want to know how I got these SARs?
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Mar 7, 2020 16:27
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hallebarrysoetoro posted:government already disappearing people in america This dude's feed is just straight Infowars so I wouldn't give him much credit
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Mar 7, 2020 16:28
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Mar 7, 2020 16:28
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Bip Roberts posted:what was that blog devoted to the shittiest architectural features on mcmansions because woof @ that arch For real, what the gently caress. That's the actual outrage here.
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Mar 7, 2020 16:29
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On The Media short segment on information going dark as the Trump admin takes over the CDC efforts and especially messaging https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/on-the-media-covering-pandemic-when-institutions-go-dark
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Mar 7, 2020 16:31
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So what does your average American think this is exactly? Grocery stores sold out of toilet paper but still have plenty of soap
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Mar 7, 2020 16:32
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Blockade posted:So what does your average American think this is exactly? Grocery stores sold out of toilet paper but still have plenty of soap A toilet paper shortage
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Mar 7, 2020 16:33
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Blockade posted:So what does your average American think this is exactly? Grocery stores sold out of toilet paper but still have plenty of soap It is simultaneously a hoax, a completely contained outbreak and an endemic disease.
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Mar 7, 2020 16:34
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Griefor posted:It is simultaneously a hoax, a completely contained outbreak and an endemic disease. melting pot of ideas 
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Mar 7, 2020 16:35
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Blockade posted:So what does your average American think this is exactly? Grocery stores sold out of toilet paper but still have plenty of soap "I didn't see any toilet paper on the shelf yesterday so today I need to buy all the toilet paper in this Sam's Club because it's rare" It's not in any way connected to the disease beyond the initial "tp shortage coming" rumors stemming from hysterics online. These aren't people worried about getting sick or getting anyone else sick or being isolated or anything like that, it's just pure animal reaction because capitalism has completely shattered their brains
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Mar 7, 2020 16:36
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GABA ghoul posted:I'm no fancy shmancy technologist, bio or otherwise, but the graph seems incredibly wrong about the number of influenza deaths and smells like bullshit. that graph seems pretty accurate to me? including pneumonia in those numbers throws it off because there are ways to get it that don't involve the flu or even any illness, stuff like patients with swallowing disorders aspirating food. searching for flu deaths in italy it looks like 2019 was relatively light, only 40 deaths by the end of january. there were around 250 total from october to february this season and that number might include some early misdiagnosed covid-19 cases.
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Mar 7, 2020 16:36
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lmao the first place to really get hit by the virus is already low on medical supplies and the epidemic has barely gotten started
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Mar 7, 2020 16:44
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https://twitter.com/doctor_oxford/status/1236199250977009664 hospitals are fools to let people in
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Mar 7, 2020 16:45
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GABA ghoul posted:I'm no fancy shmancy technologist, bio or otherwise, but the graph seems incredibly wrong about the number of influenza deaths and smells like bullshit. I dunno, ISS is our "local" equivalent of WHO and that's their data. I tend to trust them. According to them ( https://www.epicentro.iss.it/influenza/flunews#casi ), we have had in the first 9 weeks of 2020, a grand total of 164 critical cases of which 33 died. That's a lot less than coronavirus. Coronavirus does that in one day if not more. Also, about influenza in 2018-2019, here's what I found (sorry, google translated for lack of time): quote:The flu season 2018-19 has reached its peak: the peak has been reached, with 832 thousand cases in the last week from January 28 to February 3, and since the beginning of the season there are 282 serious cases and 52 deaths, thirteen of the such as in the last 7 days in conjunction with the maximum number of infections. An initial epidemiological surveillance network Influnet from the Istituto Superiore di Sanità (ISS), which has almost 5 million Italians in bed since the beginning of the season, draws a first balance. Source: https://www.repubblica.it/salute/medicina-e-ricerca/2019/02/07/news/influenza_al_culmine_52_morti_da_inizio_epidemia-218569882/ , with data from the ISS. So almost 5 million infected, 282 serious cases, 52 died.... I really don't get where the "thousands upon thousands of people dead of influenza" comes from honestly, I can't find that data anywhere... if someone could provide it I'd gladly take a look (also our healthcare system counts "influenza-related" deaths as an estimate on the total number of deaths for all reasons because it's too "slow" to confirm it for every single death, so they estimate how many people should normally die, then check the total deaths, and those that are in "excess" are considered influenza-related deaths because it's an endemic thing that comes every year and makes people sick, and often makes them get pneumonia or heart attacks too. That's why influenza deaths and influenza-related deaths are VERY different and it's probably those last ones that are in the thousands, while the real, confirmed and tested ones are in the dozens) Edit: BEAR GRYLLZ posted:that graph seems pretty accurate to me? including pneumonia in those numbers throws it off because there are ways to get it that don't involve the flu or even any illness, stuff like patients with swallowing disorders aspirating food. yeah basically this TorakFade fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Mar 7, 2020 |
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Mar 7, 2020 16:46
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Gobbeldygook posted:https://twitter.com/doctor_oxford/status/1236199250977009664 dang didnt take long for everyone to devolve in to looting. alright everyone, grab your lootin bricks
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Mar 7, 2020 16:48
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Griefor posted:It is simultaneously a hoax, a completely contained outbreak and an endemic disease.
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Mar 7, 2020 16:51
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BEAR GRYLLZ posted:that graph seems pretty accurate to me? including pneumonia in those numbers throws it off because there are ways to get it that don't involve the flu or even any illness, stuff like patients with swallowing disorders aspirating food. That's fair, but then you need to remove pneumonia cases caused by Corona too which will leave you with almost no ICU cases and probably zero deaths. That makes for a very boring graph that won't get you any attention, so I understand why they did the dishonest panicmongering thing. A fish gotta swim, gotta publish something. But it's also fair to call them out on this bullshit.
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Mar 7, 2020 16:51
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https://twitter.com/NNUBonnie/status/1236061919850557440?s=20
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Mar 7, 2020 16:52
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Robo Reagan posted:dang didnt take long for everyone to devolve in to looting. alright everyone, grab your lootin bricks how naive
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Mar 7, 2020 16:52
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I’m kind of in shock that the government is just trying to squash the existence of Coronavirus like it’s some scandal story about pence having dinner with a women not his mother. Media prepped me for everything from the government making an honest try to fix it but failing to evil bioweapon conspiracies, and even trying to nuke the virus. But Idiotocracy style *coughs blood* “it’s just the flu bro” *lungs liquify* is new. Robo Reagan posted:melting pot of ideas A melting fever brain.
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Mar 7, 2020 16:53
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BEAR GRYLLZ posted:there's a statement on evergreen health's (that's the hospital where most of the infected people in seattle have been treated) website that the CDC has declared Covid-19 endemic to Washington so they won't be doing any more testing at their clinics in a city full of old people in bc its gonna be bad
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Mar 7, 2020 16:53
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Venom Snake posted:Florida with the 100% mortality rate lmao
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Mar 7, 2020 16:55
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Numlock posted:I’m kind of in shock that the government is just trying to squash the existence of Coronavirus like it’s some scandal story about pence having dinner with a women not his mother.
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GABA ghoul posted:That's fair, but then you need to remove pneumonia cases caused by Corona too which will leave you with almost no ICU cases and probably zero deaths. nah you're not understanding: pneumonia can come from non-flu sources, which means flu+pneumonia deaths are always going to be higher than flu deaths alone, which generally will also involve pneumonia. if you're comparing flu to covid-19 you want just the flu deaths, not flu+pneumonia from other sources. the WHO probably puts those numbers together because it's useful for determining how well a country's medical system handles respiratory crises.
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