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| R. Allin-Khan |
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Jose posted:Lol cool they know he cant win and are still going to rig it in his favour loving hell
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:What's been interesting to me is seeing a ad post from Three on FB with many responses. Some, like me, have nothing but praise for the company - our experiences are almost entirely excellent. Others seem to have very poor experience. That's the case with basically all ISPs because we're at a point of development where the system either works perfectly or not at all. You don't need me stuck in a basement in Blackheath reading out Hayes Command Set instructions for you to type into your modem to squeeze out a few extra kbps from your aluminium line, some wispy nerd at the other end of the country has pushed out a config that just works for almost every customer in the country. Of course because of this (and the race to the bottom in pricing) this means when things go wrong companies just don't have the expertise to actually deal with stuff outside the models that they've built of how they've set up the system.
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Mar 8, 2020 18:23
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Julio Cruz posted:not sure anyone but the hippiest of hippies would refer to them as "medicine" though Lol. There's more of them than you'd think. People have been clumsily stealing the concepts of "power plants", "plant teachers", "medicine plants" etc. from indigenous groups longer than anyone posting in this thread has been alive. The 60s counter-culture massively expanded on this and, with a boost from the 90s shamania (everything is shamans!!), it's now firmly at the heart of the whole New Age witchdoctor-racket. Lot of dodgy folks making money off of middleclass 'seekers'/Guardian hack types looking for reassurance that they are actually spiritual beings via taking an "authentic" trip.
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Mar 8, 2020 18:27
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Mar 8, 2020 18:28
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lol given how Biden often acts towards randos the only reason they're so confident about switching formats like this, with rando members of the public rather than professional moderators asking the questions, is because the fix continues to be in and it's going to be massively rigged. "Mr. Vice-President, why are you so handsome and cool?" vs. "Senator Sanders, do you prefer Alaska or North Dakota as the site of your first gulag?"
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Mar 8, 2020 18:29
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Not compared to a single trip on a rush-hour tube it doesn't, because you're exposed to far more people (and far more *different* people) in conditions far more conducive to transmission - people coughing/sneezing in the direction of your face, touching hard surfaces touched by other people, etc. (what, nobody cheers and yells on the terraces? Your matches must be pretty chill. Golf claps and tutting all round.) Still, even if it's as call-and-response as a church service, it's still as good a reason to suspend church services as well, or at least nudge bishops to appeal to pastors to do the responsible thing. What's higher on the list of priorities, then? That is within reach of your local authority? "You better not touch my footie if you haven't closed all those DENS OF RETAIL CAPITALISM first  " is not realistic surely...
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Mar 8, 2020 18:31
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ronya posted:(what, nobody cheers and yells on the terraces? Your matches must be pretty chill. Golf claps and tutting all round.) My point is that it would be pointless window-dressing that wouldn't save a single life, and also that the atmosphere at the London Stadium is sterile enough that you could probably do surgery on it.
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Mar 8, 2020 18:36
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CoolCab posted:god anything that grows on this earth up to and enthusiastically including deadly poison gets called medicine. EmptyVessel posted:Lol. There's more of them than you'd think. People have been clumsily stealing the concepts of "power plants", "plant teachers", "medicine plants" etc. from indigenous groups longer than anyone posting in this thread has been alive. The 60s counter-culture massively expanded on this and, with a boost from the 90s shamania (everything is shamans!!), it's now firmly at the heart of the whole New Age witchdoctor-racket. Lot of dodgy folks making money off of middleclass 'seekers'/Guardian hack types looking for reassurance that they are actually spiritual beings via taking an "authentic" trip. What happens if she trips balls and grows a ghost dick? Someone tell her that the skunk marijuanas cause ROGD while she's high.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:My point is that it would be pointless window-dressing that wouldn't save a single life, and also that the atmosphere at the London Stadium is sterile enough that you could probably do surgery on it.  and here's singapore data on how long it lasts and why a single PCR test isn't good enough:  and school closures work, here's 1918 data from the us on closing early - same principle for any public gathering https://twitter.com/NAChristakis/status/1235204453315358722 for daily updates keep up to date on this channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF9IOB2TExg3QIBupFtBDxg
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Mar 8, 2020 18:46
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EmptyVessel posted:Lol. There's more of them than you'd think. People have been clumsily stealing the concepts of "power plants", "plant teachers", "medicine plants" etc. from indigenous groups longer than anyone posting in this thread has been alive. The 60s counter-culture massively expanded on this and, with a boost from the 90s shamania (everything is shamans!!), it's now firmly at the heart of the whole New Age witchdoctor-racket. Lot of dodgy folks making money off of middleclass 'seekers'/Guardian hack types looking for reassurance that they are actually spiritual beings via taking an "authentic" trip. Occasional arguments with my younger brother where I try to convince him that doing Ayahuasca with a shaman in Amsterdam doesn't mean that the subsequent invitation to spend several months living in the Brazilian rainforest is anything other than joining a bog-standard cult, which he can absolutely do at home.
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Mar 8, 2020 18:49
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*in extremely Brexiteer voice* If shamanic rainforest nature cults were any good they'd have one in Goole.
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Mar 8, 2020 18:54
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People stealing the concept of "power plants" in the 60's is why we don't have more nuclear energy in the country.
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Mar 8, 2020 18:57
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That and our nuclear program in the 50s was just a transparent plot to get more bomb making materials and was built like poo poo. We definitely should have gone full France in the 70s/80s though, rather than falling for the gas boom.
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Mar 8, 2020 19:06
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https://twitter.com/SolHughesWriter/status/1236620152243916803?s=20
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Mar 8, 2020 19:13
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I feel like that's just going to result in these people giving addresses to empty rooms. Followed by the government trying to mandate attendence lol.
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Mar 8, 2020 19:19
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goddamnedtwisto posted:My point is that it would be pointless window-dressing that wouldn't save a single life, and also that the atmosphere at the London Stadium is sterile enough that you could probably do surgery on it. Yes, that's the central difficulty of public health policy, isn't it - each individual contribution is indistinguishable from zero, sometimes actually negative, and yet the total contribution must come from somewhere, and somehow this must feel fair Realistically there are still going to be family gatherings, religious services, festivals, weekly markets, etc that will go ahead regardless, and there's nothing much that public health authorities can do about it except urge people who feel already ill to avoid such events. The events it can effectively influence are already limited in scope. We're at an odd situation where balancing legitimacy against containment requires that there be newsworthy local transmission clusters first before mandates to start limiting public events will feel sufficiently justified that voluntary compliance would be effective (a delay here is justifiable on policy grounds, I think - measures which are perceived to be too harsh can backfire by undermining public trust). Given how events have unfolded in the initial wave of countries, this is probably just two or three weeks in the future. For Hong Kong it was hotpot restaurants (i.e., family gatherings). For Korea and Singapore it was churches. This is still not a shut down of all social events but instead local authorities urging an abundance of caution, and much of the voluntary compliance emerges from event organizers cancelling due to a self-fulfilling prophecy of reduced attendance. e: apropos Graun coverage quote:As the number of cases in Germany climbed to 1,028 on Sunday (Robert Koch Institute, 1.54pm local time), Germany’s Bundesliga was forced to react to health minister Jens Spahn’s recommendation that events drawing more than 1,000 participants, including football matches, conferences, trade fairs and concerts, should be cancelled. ronya fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Mar 8, 2020 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:That's the case with basically all ISPs because we're at a point of development where the system either works perfectly or not at all. You don't need me stuck in a basement in Blackheath reading out Hayes Command Set instructions for you to type into your modem to squeeze out a few extra kbps from your aluminium line, some wispy nerd at the other end of the country has pushed out a config that just works for almost every customer in the country. You would have expected the basic account/connection package to be sorted out though. If what I was told is true anyone taking out the minimum 2 year 4G broadband package with Three can't actually make the switch to 5G until that contact's up and they take out a new one. All their sales guys are implying differently though. They say that the SIMs are 5G enabled so we can "seamlessly make the switch" when 5G arrives. Edit: meanwhile I think the launch of 5G on my town has broken the 4G+. My devices connect to it when they first start up but, without fail, they both drop to 4G within half an hour. Switching off the 4g and then reconnecting to it gets me back onto it every time, but it drops again every time too. Just can't seem to maintain a permanent connecting. Any tech reason why that might be? Kin fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Mar 8, 2020 |
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Mar 8, 2020 19:24
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Guavanaut posted:All medicines are potentially poisons, but not all poisons are medicines. I fear someone is overlooking the field of homeopathic medicine
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Mar 8, 2020 19:32
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Guavanaut posted:All medicines are potentially poisons, but not all poisons are medicines. Not actually authentic, "authentic" because part of some imagined original/primitive perfect state that would have Rousseau's noble savages rolling their eyes at how fluffy and unthreatening it is. The key word I used was reassurance - the vast majority of these marks are comfortably well off and are only looking for a friendly higher power to tell them that the status quo is all fine and they don't really need to change anything. Wait till she hears about the suggested connection between smoking weed and gynecomastia. josh04 posted:Occasional arguments with my younger brother where I try to convince him that doing Ayahuasca with a shaman in Amsterdam doesn't mean that the subsequent invitation to spend several months living in the Brazilian rainforest is anything other than joining a bog-standard cult, which he can absolutely do at home. Guavanaut posted:*in extremely Brexiteer voice* If shamanic rainforest nature cults were any good they'd have one in Goole.
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Mar 8, 2020 19:34
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Prominent public figures crying about being "silenced" when a university group decides not to host them always looks like intensely pathetic whining to me, but I keep hearing from all these other prominent public figures that it's actually a damaging assault on free speech so I don't know what to think.
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Mar 8, 2020 19:36
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:You have to make sure you (or your partner) gets a job with insurance. And if you lose your job - bye bye insurance. Honestly, regardless of coronavirus, she probably shouldn't be putting herself in an enclosed barely-cleaned tube full of other peoples recirculating germs for 5+ hours in this situation. I'm hoping things will have chilled out a bit in a couple of weeks, I'm due to take the train and the tube to London for training for two days in 10 days, ugh ugh ugh. Something I'm not exactly a fan of for hygeine-paranoia reasons at the best of times, let alone now.
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Mar 8, 2020 19:49
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cpap machines were part of why the nursing home outbreak got quite so bad iirc
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how in the blithering gently caress do you enforce the right of people to be invited to speak by student societies
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Mar 8, 2020 19:55
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Angepain posted:how in the blithering gently caress do you enforce the right of people to be invited to speak by student societies https://twitter.com/flying_rodent/status/1236676962413948928
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Angepain posted:how in the blithering gently caress do you enforce the right of people to be invited to speak by student societies You just make it a crime to do anything for an ethical reason. It dovetails neatly with the proposed bans on BDS.
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By getting the government to decide who should speak at universities, like the article says  Alternatively, spiderman himself is going to fix it: quote:Gavin Williamson is believed to be looking at increasing the powers of the university regulator after a speech by former Home Secretary Ms Rudd was blocked by a student society on Thursday. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Mar 8, 2020 |
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Mar 8, 2020 19:58
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OwlFancier posted:By getting the government to decide who should speak at universities, like the article says Looking forward to suing every university who won't book me to scream at them for not giving me all their money for breaching my right to free speech.
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Mar 8, 2020 20:04
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EmptyVessel posted:Brian Bates would like a
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Mar 8, 2020 20:05
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Running into oxford university scraeming "DEBATE ME COWARDS IM THE GOVERNMENT!"
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Mar 8, 2020 20:07
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Pesky Splinter posted:Apparently the libdems are doing their own leadership race - I literally forgot about Swinson Don't forget Layla Moran, the pansexual Palestinian that beat her ex at conference!
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Mar 8, 2020 20:14
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Fine, we accept your right to speak. What, of course we haven't written 'auditorium' on a toilet cubicle. In the basement. With no lights.
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Mar 8, 2020 20:15
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Guavanaut posted:Where's his rainforest? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperate_rainforest#Europe or in the case of your Brexit-voiced query, the ancient woodland previously in the neighbourhood of Goole.
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Genuinely if they try to enforce this it's going to be hilarious because it's just going to mean people go to the event to protest instead.
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Mar 8, 2020 20:19
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We will spam the ENTIRE GOVERNMENT with invitations to speak, then lock them in the auditorium and let the rest of Parliament do some governing without them.
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Mar 8, 2020 20:21
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OwlFancier posted:Genuinely if they try to enforce this it's going to be hilarious because it's just going to mean people go to the event to protest instead. everyone sits down quietly, takes out a pair of headphones, and listens to loud rock music
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Angepain posted:everyone sits down quietly, takes out a pair of headphones, and listens to loud rock music Everyone sits down quiety, takes out a pair of headphones, listens to loud rock music, and starts singing along. The music is Rage Against the Machine.
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EmptyVessel posted:Not actually authentic, "authentic" because part of some imagined original/primitive perfect state that would have Rousseau's noble savages rolling their eyes at how fluffy and unthreatening it is. The key word I used was reassurance - the vast majority of these marks are comfortably well off and are only looking for a friendly higher power to tell them that the status quo is all fine and they don't really need to change anything. OMG - you have read that book (ed: Way of Wyrd Brian Bates)? I read it about 30 years ago. A friend and I were really into the band Skyclad (he more than me) and that's how we got into that book. Doing the Widdershins Jig in a huge circle at the former Astoria in Charing Cross Road was something else  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsbXsOWQ68k thespaceinvader posted:Honestly, regardless of coronavirus, she probably shouldn't be putting herself in an enclosed barely-cleaned tube full of other peoples recirculating germs for 5+ hours in this situation. I'm going up to London on Thursday for 4 days - by coach for a course - course is only 1 day but getting to London is such a palaver for me that I booked 4 nights and will be seeing friends (if they still want to! Or mooching around a deserted city if not!). If I don't go, I'll lose a few £00, so I feel your pain! In the absence of hand-sanitizer, a friend's suggested putting some wet wipes in a jar with Milton's sterilizing fluid and using that instead. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Mar 8, 2020 |
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Angepain posted:everyone sits down quietly, takes out a pair of headphones, and listens to loud rock music
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It's more deliberate stoking of the fires of the 'culture war', where the government affirms that they're on the side of decent, down-to-earth, common sense ordinary people and opposed to the shrieking, intolerant Left, with their infuriating habits of being young and having opinions about things. Keeping your base fired up with these non-stories makes it more likely that they'll vote for you again next time round. I doubt very much there'll be any actual government action on this but that was never the point in the 1st place.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:OMG - you have read that book (ed: Way of Wyrd Brian Bates)? I read it about 30 years ago. A friend and I were really into the band Skyclad (he more than me) and that's how we got into that book. I will be wearing gloves whenever I'm outside. But between cold temperatures and hayfever not touching my face is essentially impossible 
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