Eej posted:

https://twitter.com/jonbernhardt/status/1237206324506554368

Biden's got the connections to get things done, like stopping M4A in its tracks

BaconAndBullets posted:

Can we root for COVID now? The real Greatest Generation will take a major hit but at least a good amount of boomers will go too.

facialimpediment posted:

Edit: And thus - https://twitter.com/MariannaNBCNews/status/1237217712893579264

Kawasaki Nun posted:

maaaaaaaan gently caress joe biden, stupid old bitch.

Leavemywife posted:

Has there been an outbreak on this level before in the US? I'm 29 and can't remember anything like this. The closest I can think of was swine flu from...10 years ago?

Edit: Not the thread I meant to post this in, but I think I'll get just as good an answer here as anywhere else.

Duzzy Funlop posted:

The poor countries upstream of rich countries' supply chains are getting turbofucked by the increasing panic, untold millions there alone are/will be out of a job and thus out of a way for providing for themselves and their loved ones.

The health effects of the virus will - again - impact those countries with the poorest health-coverage the worst, compacting that effect. Some rich folks might kick the bucket, but the majority of them will be fine on account of being able to isolate themselves from Poors by self-quarantining with comparatively mild inconvenience while getting the best possible health care they can throw money at.

The markets crashing will lose rich investors some money, but they'll pull their poo poo, reinvest in High-Security prepper Portfolios for a while, and be fine. Them pulling their poo poo amplifies the adverse effect on the overall markets, and global markets plummeting from this affects - you guessed it - poorest countries disproportionately harder than rich folks.

"Rooting for Corona" is stupid as hell, and a really loving dumb meme at this point.

Eej posted:

https://twitter.com/jonbernhardt/status/1237206324506554368

Biden's got the connections to get things done, like stopping M4A in its tracks

Duzzy Funlop posted:

The poor countries upstream of rich countries' supply chains are getting turbofucked by the increasing panic, untold millions there alone are/will be out of a job and thus out of a way for providing for themselves and their loved ones.

The health effects of the virus will - again - impact those countries with the poorest health-coverage the worst, compacting that effect. Some rich folks might kick the bucket, but the majority of them will be fine on account of being able to isolate themselves from Poors by self-quarantining with comparatively mild inconvenience while getting the best possible health care they can throw money at.

The markets crashing will lose rich investors some money, but they'll pull their poo poo, reinvest in High-Security prepper Portfolios for a while, and be fine. Them pulling their poo poo amplifies the adverse effect on the overall markets, and global markets plummeting from this affects - you guessed it - poorest countries disproportionately harder than rich folks.

"Rooting for Corona" is stupid as hell, and a really loving dumb meme at this point.

Eej posted:

https://twitter.com/jonbernhardt/status/1237206324506554368

Biden's got the connections to get things done, like stopping M4A in its tracks

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Man if Biden wins it's gonna break so many brains.

If.

Fister Roboto posted:

If Donald Trump budges even an inch to the left on any issue, he will win in a landslide. That's the danger of centrism.

Milo and POTUS posted:

Erase Bernie's name from M4A and crayon in Trump. GOP dominates next last half century of American politics

Acebuckeye13 posted:

God dammit, I'm sorry but I'm getting loving sick of this line of argument, A) because he won't and B) because he wouldn't.

For gently caress's sake, Trump won in 2016 in large part because he was a cipher people could project himself on. Since he didn't have a record, everything was speculative, and out of all the insane things that came out of his mouth people could latch on to what they liked and ignore the rest as "rhetoric," i.e. "Well, he said he'd built lots of infrastructure, which I like, and I'm sure he didn't really mean he'd ban all muslims." And since he was running against a candidate that not a lot of people were super jazzed about and everybody thought would win, tons of people stayed home or voted third party—ultimately leading to an extremely narrow win that boiled down to less than 1.5% of the vote across three states.

Trump going into 2020 is an extremely weak candidate in many ways, and that's because he has a record. He's got four years of budgets proposing to cut social security and medicare and gut national parks. He's stolen money from the military to build his wall while nearly getting us into war with Iran. He's badly mishandled an ongoing pandemic and the stock market is more volatile than ever. Our highways and bridges are crumbling while corporations spend billions on stock buybacks funded by cut taxes, and the deficit has completely exploded. The previous Republican candidate for President voted to impeach him, and he only remains in office due to Republican senators too scared or corrupt to get rid of him. There are a billion things that he can be attacked on through the election into November, all things he actively did or had done under his watch, all of which can be easily contrasted to the relative stability and security of the Obama administration, of which Joe Biden was a centerpiece. Assuming that Trump is just going to waltz away with the election is loving stupid and ignores literally every goddamn thing that's happened in the past four years, let alone why he won in 2016.

Like,


Why would the GOP do this? Their entire raison d'etre is to make money for themselves and their donors, which M4A (Or even Biden's plan!) would very explicitly not do. And even if they decided to, you know, not be Republicans, there's still all the other loving awful disruptive poo poo they've done in the past four years!

Bernie Sanders is a good man and a good politician with good ideas who deserves a shot at the White House and to make America the country it needs to be. He is not a savior, and is not magically the only person who can beat Trump. Believing he is is a great way to leap down into some insane rabbit holes and end up despondent if he fails to secure the nomination, and ignores the very real challenges he'd face in the general.

Acebuckeye13 posted:

God dammit, I'm sorry but I'm getting loving sick of this line of argument, A) because he won't and B) because he wouldn't.

For gently caress's sake, Trump won in 2016 in large part because he was a cipher people could project himself on. Since he didn't have a record, everything was speculative, and out of all the insane things that came out of his mouth people could latch on to what they liked and ignore the rest as "rhetoric," i.e. "Well, he said he'd built lots of infrastructure, which I like, and I'm sure he didn't really mean he'd ban all muslims." And since he was running against a candidate that not a lot of people were super jazzed about and everybody thought would win, tons of people stayed home or voted third party—ultimately leading to an extremely narrow win that boiled down to less than 1.5% of the vote across three states.

Trump going into 2020 is an extremely weak candidate in many ways, and that's because he has a record. He's got four years of budgets proposing to cut social security and medicare and gut national parks. He's stolen money from the military to build his wall while nearly getting us into war with Iran. He's badly mishandled an ongoing pandemic and the stock market is more volatile than ever. Our highways and bridges are crumbling while corporations spend billions on stock buybacks funded by cut taxes, and the deficit has completely exploded. The previous Republican candidate for President voted to impeach him, and he only remains in office due to Republican senators too scared or corrupt to get rid of him. There are a billion things that he can be attacked on through the election into November, all things he actively did or had done under his watch, all of which can be easily contrasted to the relative stability and security of the Obama administration, of which Joe Biden was a centerpiece. Assuming that Trump is just going to waltz away with the election is loving stupid and ignores literally every goddamn thing that's happened in the past four years, let alone why he won in 2016.

Like,


Why would the GOP do this? Their entire raison d'etre is to make money for themselves and their donors, which M4A (Or even Biden's plan!) would very explicitly not do. And even if they decided to, you know, not be Republicans, there's still all the other loving awful disruptive poo poo they've done in the past four years!

Bernie Sanders is a good man and a good politician with good ideas who deserves a shot at the White House and to make America the country it needs to be. He is not a savior, and is not magically the only person who can beat Trump. Believing he is is a great way to leap down into some insane rabbit holes and end up despondent if he fails to secure the nomination, and ignores the very real challenges he'd face in the general.

MrMojok posted:

That is not exactly what he said:

https://twitter.com/7leaguebootdisk/status/1237236834645602304?s=20

I'll leave you to decide if what he actually said was better, or worse!

Fister Roboto posted:

You're right, everyone can obviously see that Trump is bad, so there's no way he'll ever get elected. I mean reelected.

Acebuckeye13 posted:

ah yes, thank you for carefully reading and responding to the specific point I was making on how the criticisms of trump in 2020 are fundamentally different from 2016, so glad to have this debate with you

Acebuckeye13 posted:

God dammit, I'm sorry but I'm getting loving sick of this line of argument, A) because he won't and B) because he wouldn't.

For gently caress's sake, Trump won in 2016 in large part because he was a cipher people could project himself on. Since he didn't have a record, everything was speculative, and out of all the insane things that came out of his mouth people could latch on to what they liked and ignore the rest as "rhetoric," i.e. "Well, he said he'd built lots of infrastructure, which I like, and I'm sure he didn't really mean he'd ban all muslims." And since he was running against a candidate that not a lot of people were super jazzed about and everybody thought would win, tons of people stayed home or voted third party—ultimately leading to an extremely narrow win that boiled down to less than 1.5% of the vote across three states.

Trump going into 2020 is an extremely weak candidate in many ways, and that's because he has a record. He's got four years of budgets proposing to cut social security and medicare and gut national parks. He's stolen money from the military to build his wall while nearly getting us into war with Iran. He's badly mishandled an ongoing pandemic and the stock market is more volatile than ever. Our highways and bridges are crumbling while corporations spend billions on stock buybacks funded by cut taxes, and the deficit has completely exploded. The previous Republican candidate for President voted to impeach him, and he only remains in office due to Republican senators too scared or corrupt to get rid of him. There are a billion things that he can be attacked on through the election into November, all things he actively did or had done under his watch, all of which can be easily contrasted to the relative stability and security of the Obama administration, of which Joe Biden was a centerpiece. Assuming that Trump is just going to waltz away with the election is loving stupid and ignores literally every goddamn thing that's happened in the past four years, let alone why he won in 2016.

Acebuckeye13 posted:

God dammit, I'm sorry but I'm getting loving sick of this line of argument, A) because he won't and B) because he wouldn't.

For gently caress's sake, Trump won in 2016 in large part because he was a cipher people could project himself on. Since he didn't have a record, everything was speculative, and out of all the insane things that came out of his mouth people could latch on to what they liked and ignore the rest as "rhetoric," i.e. "Well, he said he'd built lots of infrastructure, which I like, and I'm sure he didn't really mean he'd ban all muslims." And since he was running against a candidate that not a lot of people were super jazzed about and everybody thought would win, tons of people stayed home or voted third party—ultimately leading to an extremely narrow win that boiled down to less than 1.5% of the vote across three states.

Trump going into 2020 is an extremely weak candidate in many ways, and that's because he has a record. He's got four years of budgets proposing to cut social security and medicare and gut national parks. He's stolen money from the military to build his wall while nearly getting us into war with Iran. He's badly mishandled an ongoing pandemic and the stock market is more volatile than ever. Our highways and bridges are crumbling while corporations spend billions on stock buybacks funded by cut taxes, and the deficit has completely exploded. The previous Republican candidate for President voted to impeach him, and he only remains in office due to Republican senators too scared or corrupt to get rid of him. There are a billion things that he can be attacked on through the election into November, all things he actively did or had done under his watch, all of which can be easily contrasted to the relative stability and security of the Obama administration, of which Joe Biden was a centerpiece. Assuming that Trump is just going to waltz away with the election is loving stupid and ignores literally every goddamn thing that's happened in the past four years, let alone why he won in 2016.

Like,


Why would the GOP do this? Their entire raison d'etre is to make money for themselves and their donors, which M4A (Or even Biden's plan!) would very explicitly not do. And even if they decided to, you know, not be Republicans, there's still all the other loving awful disruptive poo poo they've done in the past four years!

Bernie Sanders is a good man and a good politician with good ideas who deserves a shot at the White House and to make America the country it needs to be. He is not a savior, and is not magically the only person who can beat Trump. Believing he is is a great way to leap down into some insane rabbit holes and end up despondent if he fails to secure the nomination, and ignores the very real challenges he'd face in the general.

Don Dongington posted:

If that's the case, you won't be able to vaccinate against it either.

Abongination posted: