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The Titanic posted:I hope you are ok! ^^^This! Time_pants posted:Weeks, not months. I sure hope Chris hasn’t tied up a lot of his newfound wealth in speculative ventures and longshot startups. If ever a guy deserved to walk away from all this fat with cash and adulation, it’s him.
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G0RF posted:I sure hope Chris hasn’t tied up a lot of his newfound wealth in speculative ventures and longshot startups. If ever a guy deserved to walk away from all this fat with cash and adulation, it’s him. Settle for a family trust to the tune of five mill? That’s retirin’ money as long as the kids stay on side.
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lol the guys who put 5 figures in this think it's going to be like the Matrix and they're Neo, or some such poo poo with Star Wars or some other thing it's all pretty wild
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Mar 10, 2020 03:11
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TheAgent posted:btw just lol at call of duty adding crossplay and 150 player maps with combined arms before star citizen can even get 50 players working correctly It’s not fair because they didn’t have to build a company or 3 companies from the ground up.
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Mar 10, 2020 03:27
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Popete posted:You know it never really occurred to me that their alpha versions are numbered above 1.0 already. This would work in their favor when they realize Star Citizen is officially realized and has been for a long time and Chris Roberts' vision has been fully realized. It will be the "surprise we're actually done!" version. This is totally open development.
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Mar 10, 2020 03:37
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h3isenbug posted:Honest question to the developers / development-leads spreading FUD around here: Given everybody was happy with the current "game mechanics" / "feature set" and they would impose a complete feature freeze tomorrow: How long would it take them to iron out the existing bugs and get everything stable enough to be green-lighted for a triple A or console release? Even with a conservative estimate I'd guess at least 8 - 12 months... if everything can be resolved perfectly in the first iteration. That hardly happens in the real world, but you're innocent when you dream Depends on if you mean "works by not crashing" or "everything we have now is flushed out and is a game". This is probably at least a full year, if they stopped everything today, just to get it stable. You're looking at another several years to flesh this thing out into a game.
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Popete posted:This feeds into my theory that Theaters of War is CIGs attempt at pulling a Fortnite where a side gamemode takes off and everyone forgets about the original game concept. But when Theaters of War failed to catch anyones interest they gave up on it and it'll never see the light of day. This is the patented Chris Roberts' unjustifiably inflated ego hard at work. Everything every company has done is "simple" and he can do it "better" just by thinking it. Only rockstar has his respect, and even then he views them as his equals instead of a development studio that could run literal rings around his candy cane house of lies and high school-tier coders. He sees fortnight, and to his eyes it must seem like child's play compared to the neural network galactic trading system he developed in his mind. He's got this mystifying "if I can think of it, I have already done it better than anybody!" despite never actually building these things in his minds eye. It's a fun problem because it's prevent his entire team from ever fully completing anything really. I'm not sure there's any part of the game that is perfectly working. And so he sees fortnight and thinks to himself "I can do that... only better!" and the result is not only not better, but genuinely terrible. He'll never notice that it's terrible, disliked, and nonfunctional at every level. Only that he sees himself as better and smarter than Epic and more capable than their development studio.  There was a concept he said or wrote, I think, a long time ago that summed up how he views things nicely. It was something along the lines of how his ideas are very hard to think of, and it's basically trivial to just layer code on top of them to get it working. Like no middle school kid ever had the idea of "it's like world war 2 but in space... and you can do anything in it... and you can have like a billion players all fighting each other!" and they even drew up the world maps and technical thoughts like "just use a lot more servers and they mesh!" Like stringing a million fortnight servers together just works because of computer magic. Star Citizen is literally that middle school kids' wet dream except instead of learning about project management and what actually goes into building software, much led video game software, they just got infinite money to go live their dream life and build an impossible game.
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trucutru posted:Jawohl, mein schiff! 
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Its pretty loving wild how current tech solved fuel transfers between two containers with hoses but star citizen is dealing in poles with little to no flexibility. Its as if some dipshit with no concept of how the real world operates was suddenly given millions of dollars to write the worst fanfic ever...
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Its pretty loving wild how current tech solved fuel transfers between two containers with hoses but star citizen is dealing in poles with little to no flexibility. Well, the other day my car ran out of gas so I had to go buy a $267,000 tanker truck (used, I like to save money) to refuel it. There is just no other way!
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Its pretty loving wild how current tech solved fuel transfers between two containers with hoses but star citizen is dealing in poles with little to no flexibility. don't speak ill of ben lesnick like that
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Why, do you think he will go septic?
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lobsterminator posted:You just don't understand game development. If they flipped the switch then there would be too much game mechanics and players would be distracted and focusing on the wrong things. CIG needs to portion out the functionality so that new features (that come with different $700 ships) are tested properly. Pffft. They are only at Switch V 0.67. They can't flip any switches until they are at V1.0, I thought everyone knew that.
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LOL I like the way "Dobranican" thinks Clive Johnson is "a community manager".
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I do find it a little funny that a real live virus is going to be what finally kills this game. Not the ending I was expecting!
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colonelwest posted:Dude, that sucks. I hope you get better soon. If that comes to pass I presume CIG would release it in Early Access form, so the community will still have that as an excuse. Much like they have "but it is alpha" now.
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Any time a dev starts talking about hitting the e-sports market, I always roll my eyes so hard they pop out of my head and roll under the commode.
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trucutru posted:Well, the other day my car ran out of gas so I had to go buy a $267,000 tanker truck (used, I like to save money) to refuel it. There is just no other way! Just wait until a part breaks and you have to go mine iron ore to make a replacement !
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colonelwest posted:Dude, that sucks. I hope you get better soon. After 8 years and 350 million , SC goes from pre aplha to finished product in one day!! Never been done before but CR is just that good only he could pull this off!! That final epic patch just blew everyone away... a game with so much emotion, grown men are openly weeping! The glorious day where the fear uncertainty and doubt Will finally be cast aside and the glory revealed. I already have my meta critic review written : SC:. It really is AAAAAAAaaaaaaaaa !
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So, anyone think CI!G wil be able to poo poo out a MVP before Frontier release the first of their officially licensed F1 managament games in 2022? https://otp.tools.investis.com/clients/uk/frontier_developments_plc/rns/regulatory-story.aspx?cid=1725&newsid=1377661
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Mu77ley posted:So, anyone think CI!G wil be able to poo poo out a MVP before Frontier release the first of their officially licensed F1 managament games in 2022? It also won't stop by then either. Progress is ships, ships are sales, sales are good, progress is good.
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Mu77ley posted:So, anyone think CI!G wil be able to poo poo out a MVP before Frontier release the first of their officially licensed F1 managament games in 2022? Holy poo poo, if we compare both companies as a whole ie both around the 500 employee mark by now etc and we look at the delivery / output the contrast is just brutal. I may not like much Frontier games but holy poo poo those guys actually do work.
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Scruffpuff posted:It's not possible to fix this for a console release, because those have standards that have to be passed, (...) Counterpoint: Wander, Orc slayer, Horse racing 2016, Life of black tiger and many others.
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Mar 10, 2020 11:43
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Mu77ley posted:So, anyone think CI!G wil be able to poo poo out a MVP before Frontier release the first of their officially licensed F1 managament games in 2022? Well, that news certainly deserves a little.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBYHwH1Vb-c&t=215s
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TheAgent posted:the gently caress is a hog roast Hog roast sounds like something straight out of the end of an Asterix comic.
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Colostomy Bag posted:Only Roberts can align poles. For some odd reason he struggles with Lithuanians though.
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Bofast posted:Hog roast sounds like something straight out of the end of an Asterix comic. If only they'd hogtie and gag Crobberts like Cacofonix, maybe poo poo would get done.
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 :Claiming that Chris Roberts is a fraud, CIG is a money laundering front and Star Citizen is a scam is defamation. No question. There is nobody here that thinks that what you are doing is not that. I don't even think you actually believe that. You just somehow think that it's legal to say whatever on the internet. While the simple truth is that nobody has held you accountable for it. Yet.
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Good god, is Ortwin firing up 100,000 defamation letters?
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SoftNum posted:I'm fairly certain threatening people with legal action under false pretense is illegal.... and trespass to feels is not. Going to assume the only thing threatened is a bag of Doritos.
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h3isenbug posted:Honest question to the developers / development-leads spreading FUD around here: Given everybody was happy with the current "game mechanics" / "feature set" and they would impose a complete feature freeze tomorrow: How long would it take them to iron out the existing bugs and get everything stable enough to be green-lighted for a triple A or console release? Even with a conservative estimate I'd guess at least 8 - 12 months... if everything can be resolved perfectly in the first iteration. That hardly happens in the real world, but you're innocent when you dream They can't because they don't know how they fixed previous bugs, there are videos made by them talking how some bugs were unintentionally fixed in later updates without any knowledge of how or why. If this game were outsourced to a competent development team, they could fix about 90% of it in 9-12 months assuming stuff is documented in the code. But then why bother? whats currently in the game outside of graphics could be made in a day by people during their lunch break.
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MarcusSA posted:It’s not fair because they didn’t have to build Agreed
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Dementropy posted:
now if a news network published a piece using fake information they knew at the time to be wrong, just to get Chris Roberts in trouble or to hurt him personally or financially, that would be something they can chase once again Citizens have no loving idea how the real world works and are probably too loving old and stupid to learn
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Dementropy posted:
Toejam is still ranting? Hi Toejam! 
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ortwin pls don't sue me 
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TheAgent posted:ortwin pls don't sue me
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stingtwo posted:assuming stuff is documented in the code. That's a mighty big assumption.
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GyverMac posted:If only they'd hogtie and gag Crobberts like Cacofonix, maybe poo poo would get done. 
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