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Nice, Field of the Dead is back from suspension baby *looks at all the land hate they are printing in Historic Anthology II* oh
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Tulul posted:That's super-fake, considering we already know the big Ikoria mechanic is called mutate and that it somehow involves attaching cards to other cards. Not that it contributes much to its credibility, but that could just be a mis-translation.
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Mar 10, 2020 00:10
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If it is fake, it's a ton of effort with a lot of hooks in different directions. It lines up with Tainen's wedge Narset, it lines up with the aura themes in Theros, it lines up with the Enemy centered Wedge set implied by the names of the commander decks, seems pretty genuine.
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Mar 10, 2020 00:37
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The card that actually needed to be banned in Brawl was Fires of Invention, which is horribly broken with must-kill commanders that have ETB card advantage abilities like Nicol Bolas. I'd care more if you could actually still play Brawl on Arena.
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Mar 10, 2020 00:40
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Yeah I think Merge or Evolve is just a mistranslation of Mutate
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One thing throwing me off is that ultimatum. One of the leaks I saw was a cycle of ultimatums that are supposed to be in the main set but the one in that Commander leak is close but not exactly the same as the one that’s supposed to be in the set. Close enough that it wouldn’t make sense to have both cards so either the leak I saw was wrong but close, the leak I saw was wrong and actually a commander card, the leak I saw was real and changed last minute (it was a few months ago) or that commander leak is fake and they just got lucky with their ultimatum design. 
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Mar 10, 2020 00:44
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Evolve is an existing mechanic already. Merge could be a translation of Mutate.
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Mar 10, 2020 01:34
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quote:Enveloping Chrysalis 2W quote:Watchful Loris 3W
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The commander also seems like a weird design to me. Like you put 3 auras on a merge creature then merge onto the commander and it deals + drains for 16? Maybe it's not overpowered but it seems like a very strange playstyle to build a deck around. As worded you can also swap your merge creature back and forth for repeat triggers but I guess the mechanic could reasonably have "and loses Merge".
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Irony Be My Shield posted:An indestructible blocker that becomes an indestructible Arrest you can move around seems absurd. I can't really see them making this unless the commander decks are allowed to include new non standard legal cards? Commander decks (as opposed to Brawl decks) include new non standard legal cards. They're legal in Commander/Vintage/Legacy but not Brawl/Standard/Modern/Pioneer.
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Mar 10, 2020 01:55
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Wizards should hope that Commander deck is fake because it is dogshit otherwise.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:This kind of design seems bizarre to me. How often are you going to get rid of your 3/3 vigilance just to give something else Vigilance? This mechanic would surely come with a stats boost even for limited cards. Is there a "...play this ability only any time you could cast a sorcery" rider on Merge? If not it lets you dodge removal and combat trick blowouts to still retain at least a little value (which is even more value if there's a decent "auras matter" shell to be had.)
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Mar 10, 2020 02:04
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Owlbear Camus posted:Is there a "...play this ability only any time you could cast a sorcery" rider on Merge? Irony Be My Shield posted:
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GoutPatrol posted:"lol 2019" Toshimo posted:Wizards should hope that Commander deck is fake because it is dogshit otherwise. This is how we know it's real.
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"They should be putting BBD duals in every goddamn commander product forever because there's nowhere else to put them and excusing that is dumb as gently caress." -A Goddamn Genius Pay me, Wizards.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:The commander also seems like a weird design to me. Like you put 3 auras on a merge creature then merge onto the commander and it deals + drains for 16? Maybe it's not overpowered but it seems like a very strange playstyle to build a deck around. The biggest problem with Voltron strategies is that you are limited by A) needing combat and B) only being able to swing at one player with your Commander when they are all buffed up. This Abzan deck seems to suggest the possibility of an "Aura Storm" style of play where you can go off with enchantresses like a normal Enchantress deck but now you can use all the cards you draw and mana you generate to dome people. If you factor in stuff like Mirari's Wake and Nyxbloom Ancient, it's feasible to consider just looping your auras and nuking the table via direct damage and skipping combat completely. "Direct Damage Boggle Storm" or "Nuclear Pants" is new and exciting design space for Abzan.
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Toshimo posted:"They should be putting BBD duals in every goddamn commander product forever because there's nowhere else to put them and excusing that is dumb as gently caress." -A Goddamn Genius Absolutely this. If it's for a multiplayer format, print the cards into oblivion. Also do enemy cycle.
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Framboise posted:Absolutely this. If it's for a multiplayer format, print the cards into oblivion. Also do enemy cycle. Enemy cycle probably in the new commander draft set. They absolutely should be in precons though.
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https://twitter.com/mengu09/status/1237036051081953283?s=21 I feel like people, even Pros, don’t understand the actual volume of data provided by MTGO leagues. Internet discussion and speculation on games and other content creators experiences are simply the tip of a truly gargantuan iceberg. MTGO legacy leagues are firing 24/7, I’m sure the data they have more than supports their decision. Also the comments do clear up that the reason breach is too good for legacy is basically that it can win through hate and it has a loving insane sideboard that shores up any weaknesses. Nobody playing the deck is defending it.
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Mar 10, 2020 13:54
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Did anybody really expect Red Yawg Will++ to stay around in legacy? That seems ambitious.
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At the very least they'd have to ban LED to keep it around.
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Mar 10, 2020 14:03
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Ah yes, what every commander player has been clamoring for. Auras.
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Paul Zuvella posted:Ah yes, what every commander player has been clamoring for. Sram. And uh that precon walker? what I mean is someone in development has very specific decks
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Estrid has some pretty neat potential with The Chain Veil fwiw 
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Merge seems like a really lame mechanic if it's real. Slow, super incremental and vulnerable to blow outs. maybe it'll play out better but it just doesn't seem like it would lead to interesting games. Auras are already mostly bad.
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Enchantress decks have been a part of Magic since Magic’s inception I don’t get what you’re implying. Do you think Commander players don’t want to enchant their creatures to make them cool? I mean, if anything the presence of Commander damage insinuates that were MORE invested in enchanting and creating giant creatures to swing with.
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Mar 10, 2020 15:25
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This seems like an interesting mechanic. It's Bestow from the battlefield instead of from hand, and I liked how Bestow played.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:This kind of design seems bizarre to me. How often are you going to get rid of your 3/3 vigilance just to give something else Vigilance? This mechanic would surely come with a stats boost even for limited cards. The weirdest part of that card is that it's a white Ape. It would be the first.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:An indestructible blocker that becomes an indestructible Arrest you can move around seems absurd. I can't really see them making this unless the commander decks are allowed to include new non standard legal cards? Unless I'm missing something you can't move it around, right? Also, Prison Term exists, although you can't move it at will
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Auras are cool thematically, but their default implementation is inherently bad since they're so often a card disadvantage. They have to be insanely strong or have weird quirks to counteract their innate downsides (recursion ala Rancor, strong ETB/cast effects, etc). WotC keeps trying to find a way to make them worthwhile and this is just the latest attempt. So far nothing seems like it'll really shake things up, but maybe the actual set will have some decent Mutate/Merge/whatever cards (assuming this is even the real mechanic).
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Lets you stack creatures and then wrath and get them all back as creatures, and they should come back without summoning sickness since they were already on the battlefield.
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Enchanting my creatures feels slow and vulnerable and dumb, playing big game-altering enchantments is good and cool and I want a commander for them. Maybe I'll build golos enchantress if the precons turn out lame.
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Make Maelstrom Nexus usable as a commander
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I don't think it's vulnerable? If the aura becomes unattached you just get your creature back.
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Paul Zuvella posted:Ah yes, what every commander player has been clamoring for. Part of my regrets with Tuvasa is that sticking Rancor to her is a bad plan long term, so, yeah.
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Unless I'm misunderstanding that mechanic, isn't that just Magnetic from HS? Realise it's different card games like, but Magnetic is pretty strong. Edit: Missed it was from the battlefield instead of hand, so eh.
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Pauper cube is coming! On MTGO they are running pauper cube starting tomorrow and everyone who 5-0's a pauper cube/league que will win that stupid monarch card (7 tix) and everyone who uses the code PAUPERARENA2020 will get a free copy of pauper staple standard bearer! Seems good
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Blooming Brilliant posted:Unless I'm misunderstanding that mechanic, isn't that just Magnetic from HS? its banding
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Magic has probably earned a little latitude to copy a thing or two from HS.
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PleasantDirge posted:Pauper cube is coming! On MTGO they are running pauper cube starting tomorrow and everyone who 5-0's a pauper cube/league que will win that stupid monarch card (7 tix) and everyone who uses the code PAUPERARENA2020 will get a free copy of standard staple standard bearer! Seems good I'm ok with this.
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