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https://twitter.com/mollywaggett/status/1235281112684843009
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Beef posted:Out of interest, what are the challenges of porting an existing IDE project file to GNU Make? I have the marginal benefit of working in an environment where we do everything in Makefiles from the start. In my situation, the makefile is purely for the build server. People will still develop/debug using the IDE so the makefile needs to keep up with changes in the IDE file. Which means either writing a script to parse the XML stuff, or hard-coding how to compile it and hoping that if we need to change the build flags, they get changed in both the IDE and makefile. The people above me prefer the second option since the script would likely need to be validated. The second option scares me because I think I’ll end up spending half my time each sprint answering angry emails that the build server fails even though it builds fine on their machine.
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Mar 7, 2020 00:14
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Faith For Two posted:In my situation, the makefile is purely for the build server. People will still develop/debug using the IDE so the makefile needs to keep up with changes in the IDE file. You need a build system that's runnable on dev machines from the command line, or you're in for a bad time.
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Mar 7, 2020 03:09
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I recommend that your idiot devs learn to use their own IDEs properly
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Mar 7, 2020 14:32
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Mar 7, 2020 15:22
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Has anyone worked at a big company that acquired a small company and then had to deal with the small company’s senior developers not handling it well?
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Mar 9, 2020 13:31
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smackfu posted:Has anyone worked at a big company that acquired a small company and then had to deal with the small company’s senior developers not handling it well? Yeah. Big fish, small pond syndrome? 
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Mar 9, 2020 13:48
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Imagine every time you create a circular dependency your first thought is "this wouldn't be a problem if there were no dependencies!" Now, how can I go about explaining to someone why putting every part of 6+ separate product's library code into one huge lib is a dumb idea?
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Mar 9, 2020 13:54
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smackfu posted:Has anyone worked at a big company that acquired a small company and then had to deal with the small company’s senior developers not handling it well? I have been a senior developer in a small company that was acquired by a slightly bigger company. I quit pretty much right away.
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Mar 9, 2020 14:21
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smackfu posted:Has anyone worked at a big company that acquired a small company and then had to deal with the small company’s senior developers not handling it well? I've been in the opposite situation, a 25 person company getting acquired by a 10k+ megacorp. It sucked.
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Mar 9, 2020 16:35
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SAVE-LISP-AND-DIE posted:Imagine every time you create a circular dependency your first thought is "this wouldn't be a problem if there were no dependencies!" ASK me about using the Bazel build system and how it's occasionally forced me to create the equivalent of header files because the relevant classes are in different packages.
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Mar 9, 2020 17:07
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smackfu posted:Has anyone worked at a big company that acquired a small company and then had to deal with the small company’s senior developers not handling it well? Yes. The good developers will eventually come around if the new company is challenging/competent enough. I've seen it be a huge opportunity too and 1 company I worked for the CEO was a developer-oriented founder of a company that got bought up (decades ago). Some good people will leave even so but that's not dramatically different than any big change. The lovely devs will make a lot of noise and bellyache and generally be detractors until they get fired because those kinds of people rarely leave on their own.
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Mar 9, 2020 17:49
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smackfu posted:Has anyone worked at a big company that acquired a small company and then had to deal with the small company’s senior developers not handling it well? I used to hang out with a HR person whose job was essentially going to the small acquihires and informing them that the Party was Over.
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Mar 9, 2020 17:59
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Both "small company is extraordinarily undisciplined and needs to be taught to how to stop jerking off and ship a product" and "large company is extraordinarily hidebound and blind to how much effort they waste following their ridiculous processes" are very common scenarios, and most acquisitions are a combination of the two.
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Mar 9, 2020 18:46
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I recently interviewed at a company that was acquihired and from the sounds of it the result was "continue working as normal but also you have Capital now" and so I think they may have used up all the luck for everyone else
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Mar 9, 2020 18:49
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rjmccall posted:Both "small company is extraordinarily undisciplined and needs to be taught to how to stop jerking off and ship a product" and "large company is extraordinarily hidebound and blind to how much effort they waste following their ridiculous processes" are very common scenarios, and most acquisitions are a combination of the two. As is "large company buys small company and has no idea what to do with it".
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Mar 9, 2020 18:50
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ChickenWing posted:I recently interviewed at a company that was acquihired and from the sounds of it the result was "continue working as normal but also you have Capital now" and so I think they may have used up all the luck for everyone else That's the opposite of an acquihire. An acquihire is when the acquiring company shuts down the acquired company because they just wanted the employees and not the actual products.
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Mar 9, 2020 22:06
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I just don't like working in organizations larger than about 15 people. I don't deal well with authority or hierarchy so if there are directives coming from higher ups that I've never even met my instant reaction is "gently caress all that." I know it sounds kind of childish, I think I watched too many 90s slacker movies growing up and it poisoned me against work.
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Mar 9, 2020 22:12
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prom candy posted:I don't deal well with authority or hierarchy so if there are directives coming from higher ups that I've never even met my instant reaction is "gently caress all that." You sound like a pain in the rear end to work with.
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Mar 9, 2020 23:59
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Yeah I can see that. I don't have a problem taking orders or direction, I just want to be close to the decision makers and understand their reasoning. "Because head office said so" isn't something I want to hear at work. The entire last page or so was dedicated to BS that people experience in bigger companies so I don't think I'm alone in this.
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Mar 10, 2020 05:07
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prom candy posted:Yeah I can see that. I don't have a problem taking orders or direction, I just want to be close to the decision makers and understand their reasoning. "Because head office said so" isn't something I want to hear at work. Yeah, given that work is one of the single largest consumers of time in life, I'd really like to have a sense of meaning in what I do. Some folks I've known are just chill to to bang on the keyboard and get a paycheck - but insane mandates without option of appeal is the opposite of what I want.
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Mar 10, 2020 07:15
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prom candy posted:I think I watched too many 90s slacker movies growing up and it poisoned me against work. Office Space was a prime shaper of my generation. It came out just as I was graduating high school and entering the white collar workforce. Some people ended up Peter, some people ended up Michael. The worst of us became Lumberghs and the best of us were Lawrence all along 
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Mar 10, 2020 14:33
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And anyone who calls themselves a Lawrence is actually a Lumbergh. (And holy poo poo my autocorrect knows Lumbergh.)
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Mar 10, 2020 16:30
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csammis posted:Office Space was a prime shaper of my generation. It came out just as I was graduating high school and entering the white collar workforce. Some people ended up Peter, some people ended up Michael. The worst of us became Lumberghs and the best of us were Lawrence all along Yeah I was I think 16 or 17 when I first saw that movie and I also spent some time in grade 11 working in a horribly soulless call centre. Between that and office space I always just kinda felt this feeling of "I can't do this" and so far I've been lucky enough to work in more non-traditional places, and right now I'm full time remote on a really small team.
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Mar 10, 2020 18:07
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https://phys.org/news/2020-03-math-person-code.html New research from the University of Washington finds that a natural aptitude for learning languages is a stronger predictor of learning to program than basic math knowledge, or numeracy. That's because writing code also involves learning a second language, an ability to learn that language's vocabulary and grammar, and how they work together to communicate ideas and intentions.
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Mar 10, 2020 18:37
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eat poo poo, early 2000s high school curriculum that told me i couldn't take programming classes anymore because i was dropping math
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Mar 10, 2020 18:46
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I credit highschool Latin for whatever coding ability I managed to absorb. Especially under an ex monk who was about as particular as a computer regarding syntax.
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Mar 10, 2020 19:35
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I don't buy it. Or I squandered my "second language" slot with the ability to write same CRUD screen over and over again until I retire
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Mar 10, 2020 20:38
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Pedestrian Xing posted:I've been in the opposite situation, a 25 person company getting acquired by a 10k+ megacorp. It sucked. Yeah, my first job out of college was at a small company where there were only two levels between me and the CEO. We got acquired by $BIGCO and suddenly I was so far down in the org chart I'd need the Hubble to see the top.
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Mar 10, 2020 21:51
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MisterZimbu posted:I don't buy it. Same. I'm incredibly bad at learning other spoken languages, but computer languages I can handle.
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Mar 10, 2020 22:03
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I took 6 years of Spanish and have been keeping it up with Duolingo but I don't think my barely passable and minimally maintained fluency in Spanish has any bearing on my ability to learn programming languages.
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Mar 10, 2020 22:50
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Protocol7 posted:I took 6 years of Spanish and have been keeping it up with Duolingo but I don't think my barely passable and minimally maintained fluency in Spanish has any bearing on my ability to learn programming languages. Volmarias posted:Same. I'm incredibly bad at learning other spoken languages, but computer languages I can handle. MisterZimbu posted:I don't buy it. I don't know, y'all don't seem terribly great at your first language either. That you just didn't read the linked article or the provided summary very well. It's a stronger predictor than math skills. Doesn't mean it's a perfect predictor or that exceptions don't exist. Just that the patterns of neural activity which correlate with language acquisition skill also seem to correlate with ease of learning programming.
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Mar 10, 2020 23:05
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If it makes you feel better, the best indicator is a high level of pedantry.
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Mar 10, 2020 23:09
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quote:Those who learned Python faster, and with greater accuracy, tended to have a mix of strong problem-solving and language abilities. I dunno, seems like one of those things would have a more profound effect on your programming success rate than the other.
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Mar 10, 2020 23:58
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What the study itself seems to indicate is that "language aptitude" (as measured by MLAT) was a strong predictor of variance in rate of learning during ten 45 minute sessions (unsupervised but monitored) with a Codecademy Python course. It doesn't sound like the curriculum involved much of anything would require strong math skills, and the end goal was to program Rock-Paper-Scissors in Python. Programming accuracy (three people rated how goodly they programmed a Rock-Paper-Scissors game) in their best fitted model model was predicted most strongly by fluid intelligence (50.1% of variance) with language aptitude a distant second (8.7%). Their best fitted model for declarative knowledge (how well they scored on a 50-item multiple choice test after their sessions) didn't include language aptitude. There's also some brain scan poo poo that seems real loosey goosey if you're trying to draw any sort of conclusions about how language aptitude relates to programming aptitude 
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Mar 11, 2020 01:23
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rjmccall posted:As is "large company buys small company and has no idea what to do with it". "We thought we knew what we bought, but oh god were we wrong", liberal quote from the CEO of the mothership a few months after the acquisition. The last couple of years has been quite a journey. Volmarias posted:If it makes you feel better, the best indicator is a high level of pedantry. 
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Mar 11, 2020 02:25
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So I'm having a pretty hard time staying focused at work lately, anyone have any suggestions for getting into flow state when it's just not coming? It seems like my brain is just bouncing off the walls trying to think of anything except what I need to be working on.
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Mar 11, 2020 05:03
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Take a break and meditate
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Mar 11, 2020 06:03
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Take frequent breaks, and try pair programming if you've got a colleague who likes it and suitable hardware.
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Mar 11, 2020 07:11
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Bongo Bill posted:Take frequent breaks, and try pair programming if you've got a colleague who likes it and suitable hardware. "Suitable hardware"? Two keyboards hooked up to one PC?
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