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Are we posting cool graphs now? I want to get in on that. https://twitter.com/CT_Bergstrom/status/1236427814393409536 This was posted a few days ago, but it's really excellent if you want to explain why "lets just get it over with" is a bad idea.
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Burt Sexual posted:We rebooked to the Cosmo in Vegas. We just lay about the pool all day then go eat. There are rumblings that they are going to close the buffets in Vegas. When is your trip again? bomb posted:I enjoy quinoa but really just get white rice let’s all stop pretending quinoa and brown rice are better for you I absolutely love quinoa but eating it in any qty like I eat white rice loving kills my stomach like nothing else. Quinoa is amazing for breakfast though. Eat it like any other warm cereal add some say vanilla soy milk and honey and you are good to go.
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Mar 11, 2020 05:56
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I'm glad those graphs take into account handwashing because I can guarantee that the rate of it has been increased going by how the only thing that there appears to have been a run on here (Downtown Toronto) is handsoap and hand sanitizer. It remains by far the most effective control measure and the great thing is that anyone can do it!
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Mar 11, 2020 05:57
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Quinoa is gross it’s like ground up alien bugs.
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Mar 11, 2020 06:00
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Shaocaholica posted:Quinoa is gross it’s like ground up alien bugs. This is so wrong. Its a super grain. It is good and good for you. I have like 10lbs of it I can't even eat lol.
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Mar 11, 2020 06:02
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Fojar38 posted:I did, even with the difference in scale the increase isn't exponential, otherwise we'd be well into the hundreds of thousands by now. Growth stopped being exponential around the 100 marker. *wading through sea of virus laden corpses* Um Actually have you considered that the quantity and frequency of your deaths didn't meet the literal dictionary definition of "Exponential" in the specific time periods I'm referencing in these graphs? Anyone? I need to prove that people on the internet were technically wrong about how you were dying please.
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Mar 11, 2020 06:03
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Burt Sexual posted:We rebooked to the Cosmo in Vegas. We just lay about the pool all day then go eat. All the MGM casinos decided to shut down their buffets starting on the 15th. Dunno if others are going to follow suit but you gotta assume some will. Eat fancy instead! https://www.latimes.com/travel/story/2020-03-10/seven-las-vegas-buffets-shut-down-coronavirus-fears
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Mar 11, 2020 06:07
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Rectal Death Adept posted:*wading through sea of virus laden corpses* "exponential growth" means something really specific and whether or not the case rate is increasing "exponentially" matters a whole lot in terms of the severity of the outbreak, actually. Most of the apocalyptic rhetoric assumes exponential growth but we have yet to see it past the 100 or so mark (exponential growth being really easy when numbers are low, and harder and harder to sustain as numbers get bigger.) I wasn't even referring to the death rate, I was referring to the case rate. I mean if you want to panic-buy toilet paper that's your decision but you should really just wash your hands and stop touching your face.
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Mar 11, 2020 06:08
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The Glumslinger posted:Yes and the US mortality rate is higher than places like Italy and South Korea as a result Yeah.....so if there 7500 reported cases in SK and 54 deaths, but really there are 70000 cases and 54 deaths, it really doesn't seem that bad. Now obviously as was pointed out, people might be dying of it without anyone knowing, but I find it unlikely that in SK that someone dies of respiratory problems and isn't tested. So really I'd err on the "not as bad as claimed side"
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Mar 11, 2020 06:08
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Ginette Reno posted:There's not a whole lot you can do to prevent getting sick though. Don't travel and try to avoid large groups of people is pretty much all you can do. Soooo... business as usual. Check.
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Mar 11, 2020 06:15
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Feeling ill? How about a nice big ladle of chicken soup? https://i.imgur.com/LcdsHtE.mp4
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Mar 11, 2020 06:17
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Fojar38 posted:Car accidents kill over 3000 people a day. If I were shocked at that death rate I wouldn't be able to leave the house. I always found this shocking. Shootings and terrorists are such a big deal and get people riled up. When you point to autondeaths most people just look at you and say "well you have to drive" Its a collective insanity that when AI eliminates automobile deaths it will make future generations wonder what was wrong with everyone.
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Mar 11, 2020 06:17
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bomb posted:I enjoy quinoa but really just get white rice let’s all stop pretending quinoa and brown rice are better for you BEANS and rice, complete set of amino acids people
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Mar 11, 2020 06:18
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Fojar38 posted:Car accidents kill over 3000 people a day. If I were shocked at that death rate I wouldn't be able to leave the house. When that volcano blew up in New Zealand I saw a ton of people screaming that all volcano tourism needs to be banned. I've hiked volcanos and plan to do so again, becaise I'm way more likely to get hit by a car going to work than get blown up on a hike. Someone on Facebook gave me poo poo for going to Tokyo last week after I said it was insensitive to mock immuncompromised people for being worried about this virus. I told her that me choosing to continue my trip to Tokyo was like choosing to go choosinf to go base jumping off a cliff with a parachute. But not everyone has parachutes so mocking them for worrying about jumping off a cliff just because you'll be fine of you do it makes you an rear end. And I'm in self-quarantine now because I don't want to accidentally push someone without a parachute off the cliff.
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Picnic Princess posted:When that volcano blew up in New Zealand I saw a ton of people screaming that all volcano tourism needs to be banned. I've hiked volcanos and plan to do so again, becaise I'm way more likely to get hit by a car going to work than get blown up on a hike. I hope that post made you feel better about yourself.
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Mar 11, 2020 06:22
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Facebook Aunt posted:Feeling ill? How about a nice big ladle of chicken soup? We don’t eat buffet don’t know if that helps lol
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Mar 11, 2020 06:27
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Burt Sexual posted:We don’t eat buffet don’t know if that helps lol It doesn’t. RIP Is it this month?
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Mar 11, 2020 06:31
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Frankly in terms of illnesses I am most afraid of getting Norovirus (685 million cases per year with a mortality rate of about 7% btw) remains the biggest concern for me, that's put me in the hospital before simply because I couldn't stop making GBS threads and puking everywhere (but enough about my posting)
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Mar 11, 2020 06:33
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naem posted:BEANS and rice, complete set of amino acids people We're talking about people possibly having to self-isolate for a couple of weeks, not the apocalypse.
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Mar 11, 2020 06:33
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Fojar38 posted:Frankly in terms of illnesses I am most afraid of getting Norovirus (685 million cases per year with a mortality rate of about 7% btw) remains the biggest concern for me, that's put me in the hospital before simply because I couldn't stop making GBS threads and puking everywhere (but enough about my posting) there are 800 deaths from norovirus in the us every year (lollin at 7% mortality rate) i  covid19 will have more than that by end of the week in italy
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Mar 11, 2020 06:36
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MarcusSA posted:It doesn’t. RIP Monday
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bob dobbs is dead posted:there are 800 deaths from norovirus in the us every year (lollin at 7% mortality rate) The world is bigger than the US bro And I got the 7% mortality rate from the NIH so you can take it up with them https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK513265/
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Mar 11, 2020 06:40
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Fojar38 posted:The world is bigger than the US bro 7% is mortality rate after hospitalization in critical status by that standard covid19 hs 50% mortality if it was 7% from all cases it would be comparable to cancer as a cause of death
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Mar 11, 2020 06:41
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Lolie posted:We're talking about people possibly having to self-isolate for a couple of weeks, not the apocalypse. Well, yes. For most people 2 weeks worth of their normal groceries will be sufficient. OTOH for some people having to self-quarantine and miss work will be an unexpected financial burden, so being aware of nutrient dense poverty food could be helpful.
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Mar 11, 2020 06:43
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Diseases that cause lots of diarrhea have disproportionately high mortality rates in countries without any water, sewage, or healthcare infrastructure. When people are losing fluids making GBS threads themselves to death and the water they're drinking isn't clean you get lots of dead people. It's less of a problem in developed countries where the sick can reliably be given fluids.
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Mar 11, 2020 06:45
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Burt Sexual posted:Monday I still claim your mod status should you be unable to perform your duties. I called it first. Have fun though The beetles love show is really awesome and I bet tickets are cheap lol.
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Mar 11, 2020 06:49
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bob dobbs is dead posted:7% is mortality rate after hospitalization in critical status That's not what it says, it says 7% of patients. Much like Covid-19, these tend to be people who are either elderly or have preexisting conditions, and in the case of Norovirus the bulk of them are from developing countries. bob dobbs is dead posted:if it was 7% from all cases it would be comparable to cancer as a cause of death Which cancer? There are lots of different cancers with lots of different prognoses.
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Mar 11, 2020 06:52
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Fojar38 posted:I did, even with the difference in scale the increase isn't exponential, otherwise we'd be well into the hundreds of thousands by now. Growth stopped being exponential around the 100 marker. Linear growth on a log scale is exponential growth you loving moron. The blue curve is showing exponential growth from the very start
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MarcusSA posted:I still claim your mod status should you be unable to perform your duties. Saw it two years ago good show indeed. Shows will be cheap af. E suite was half off that we had last year
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Fojar38 posted:That's not what it says, it says 7% of patients. Much like Covid-19, these tend to be people who are either elderly or have preexisting conditions, and in the case of Norovirus the bulk of them are from developing countries. the study where the 7% figure is from (not the review, the individual study) says average age 77 and in hospitalization. is the average age of the gen pop 77? 700 million cases times 7% death rate is 49 million. total world deaths last year was 52 million, so i misspoke it would be comparable to all deaths from all causes
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Mar 11, 2020 07:02
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Fojar38 posted:
Lmao Just the flu bro
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QuarkJets posted:Linear growth on a log scale is exponential growth you loving moron. The blue curve is showing exponential growth from the very start Not on a day to day basis, which is what I was looking at, and assumed what people meant by "exponential growth." My bad for picking one measuring weeks on the X axis though
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it would be pretty poo poo to have a world where norovirus causes like 98% of deaths tho lol
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Haramstufe Rot posted:Lmao If you're going to strawman my position I might as well do the same and ask you how many rolls of toilet paper you're hoarding
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ok, heres one where this would not actually be expected of normal reasonably educated peeps exponential is eigenfunction wrt differential operator, so no matter what time period you look at its discretized slope over, its still exponential, cuz discretization of diff op is just slopes
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how to do poo poo in log space w no real effort: ignore the contents of the digits, count the number of digits. this was enrico fermis trick
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I got to hang out in the hospital with the guy who was one of Florida’s first cases of coronavirus, back when he was still being treated for pneumonia. It was neat because I was also being treated for pneumonia, and neither of us were getting any better! Now I’m in quarantine indefinitely and on a waiting list to get a test while being sick as poo poo, hooray! The hospitals response to exposing everyone on that floor to coronavirus? “lol my bad” Florida is terrible and I hope this state sinks. No one can get tested because “we don’t have enough tests” and “we don’t know how to treat it anyways, just try not to die”. Translation: it might hurt tourism so keep the numbers low. NO I’M NOT ANGRY WHY DO YOU ASK
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Fojar38 posted:
I was flippant earlier and would like to not just tell the thread that Fojar38 is a slack-jawed moron, I also want to explain why Here Fojar38 has provided two graphs in different scale, one in linear scale and another in log scale. Being an idiot, Fojar38 probably didn't even notice that the axes are different, and certainly doesn't understand why it's important that the data is on a log scale. In short, it is common to represent exponential trends on a log scale because that scale flattens exponential curves into nice straight lines. This is due to how taking the logarithm of an exponential turns it into something linear. This would be immediately apparent if Fojar38 had posted two images in log scale instead of just 1, but as we already know, Fojar38 is very, very dumb. Anytime that you see an increasing straight line on a log scale, that is exponential growth. So you can look at the blue curve that Fojar38 provided and immediately identify that the entire curve is showing exponential growth.
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So we got some updates measures here in the company (EU).  
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50s girl groupon posted:I got to hang out in the hospital with the guy who was one of Florida’s first cases of coronavirus, back when he was still being treated for pneumonia. It was neat because I was also being treated for pneumonia, and neither of us were getting any better! Get this person the super spreader tag ASAP!
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