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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race?
This poll is closed.
R. Allin-Khan 6 1.60%
R. Burgon 80 21.33%
D. Butler 72 19.20%
A. Rayner 35 9.33%
I. Murray 5 1.33%
P. Flaps 177 47.20%
Total: 375 votes
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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1237518906073346048

Satire is dead and so are we.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
For the first time in history, Chris Grayling has some intelligence faculties.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



When you're so corrupt other Tories are going "Uh hang on a sec Bozza mate" :discourse:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I hope he does the same thing for the intelligence committee as he did for transport.

I stopped fifty terrorist plots last year Chris. I can't provide any evidence of this because of the secrets act, but it's real. Please bung a bunch of cash to my company I just set up.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



"I wrote two articles about Russia, Boris.

I've got strong feelings about corruption.

I know I can do this job."

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

"If you send me fifty million pounds I can prevent terrorist attacks" is 50/50 pork barrel spending or protection racket.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good
Once upon a time I was told that 'American Intelligence' was a perfect oxymoron, much like 'Microsoft Works'. I don't know why I'm suddenly reminded of that fact.

quote:

The new boss’s first task will be to publish a report on Russia’s influence on the British establishment, which Boris suppressed in the run up to December’s general election.

Harsh, harsh words from the Scum towards His Worship The Honorable Lord and Prime Minister Bozza there. Wonder if they edit that.

E: Oh right, remember everybody we're going to have a budget tomorrow! I'm sure a couple of minor giveaways will stop this virus thingie in its tracks. Tune in at 12.30!

Best part? At 18 months I think this is officially the longest ever gap between government budgets. And it's getting done by someone whos been in the job for less than a month. Strong and Stable!

RockyB fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Mar 11, 2020

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy

Ms Adequate posted:

"I wrote two articles about Russia, Boris.

I've got strong feelings about corruption.

I know I can do this job."
And so:

EmptyVessel
Oct 30, 2012

Chuka Umana posted:

Tory mind: Oh the left praised Diana Spencer when she touched an AIDS patient but now they're going after BoJo for shaking hands with a coronavirus patient!?! So much for the tolerant left!!

Tory mind too stupid (but I repeat myself) to grasp that what Diana did was demonstrating that the type of contact she was making was not a way of catching HIV/AIDS and perfectly safe.
Whereas what Boris did was to do something that medical advice says is a way to catch this particular virus in a stupid (again with the repeating) stunt that was blatantly trying for some of that Princess of Hearts energy.
He deserves everything he might have caught, and several other things because I'm generous like that.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Wasn't the hospital he went to one without known covid cases, so it's more Boris liar than Boris brave but misguided?

EmptyVessel
Oct 30, 2012
Ha. That wouldn't surprise me at all tbh. Stolen Lady Di Valour - how very on brand.
Also, "brave" is a word I will never associate with Boris ever and if he's misguided he's only himself to blame.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
"Brave but misguided" seems to be a very English way of politely saying "loving idiot" in hindsight, but yeah I agree. He's not filled with that type of stiff upper lipped stupidity, as much as he makes out that he might be, so my money's on the liar, no covid cases side.

EmptyVessel
Oct 30, 2012
What he's filled with like all his type is very little brain, spite, bile and a stiff upper-class cupidity.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

EmptyVessel posted:

What he's filled with like all his type is very little brain, spite, bile and a stiff upper-class cupidity.

Not familiar with this translation of Galen but find it very applicable.

EmptyVessel
Oct 30, 2012
Just realised that I've accidentally described Winnie the Pooh's evil twin, which fits Boris pretty drat well in hindsight.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Not sure if this was posted earlier? (Internet playing silly buggers tonight):

https://twitter.com/LabourGRT/status/1237448038957924352?s=20

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
how the gently caress are people looking at joe loving biden and bernie and going 'aye, that biden lad looks like a good shout'

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

ThomasPaine posted:

how the gently caress are people looking at joe loving biden and bernie and going 'aye, that biden lad looks like a good shout'

Boris/Corbyn.

Some people just live on another plane of existence.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


for fucks sake

https://twitter.com/rowenamason/status/1237435387490062339?s=20

me and my partner have been trying to contact 111, we're both sick with flu symptoms and basically just want the go ahead to self isolate. i'd obviously like a test so i know if i'm covered in grandma death virus but ofc i dont expec the UK to be doing that properly.

so we call 111, it tells you to gently caress off unless you've been to wuhan or call the coronavirus hotline, we call the hotline and its closed for the night but directs us to an nhs information site, the nhs information site tells us to gently caress off unless you've been to wuhan

they're so goddamn insistent on only closing the gate once the horse has bolted. our government is totally incapable of serious action on ANYTHING. we're honestly gonna make italy look like korea. we're 2 weeks behind italy and the governments plan is to ASK people to quarantine if symptomatic (too late)... in 2 weeks!

Communist Thoughts fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Mar 11, 2020

blues thief
Apr 1, 2013

OwlFancier posted:

Boris/Corbyn.

Some people just live on another plane of existence.

It's more that the media gets to decide who has that fabled magical power called "electability" and there isn't really a way around that. Trying to bypass through alternative/social media isn't enough because they have more reach and the olds vote more than the youngs. Trying to impress or placate them isn't enough because they're intimately linked with the existing political structures and their interest will always be in maintaining the status quo. Who knows what the solution is. Personally I'd like to see a left that treats the media with the scorn and bile they deserve, but that's more about grim satisfaction than thinking it'd improve our electoral chances much.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Time may change it, people who spend less time reading the papers vote more left, and they're also materially hosed by society.

It'd be nice if we could get ahead of the fuckery but I'm pretty much convinced that entire concept is ahistorical at this point.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
If nothing else the last few years have made me much more enthusiastically, ahem, bolshevik, about things. Not that that means anything given how hosed we are very soon and how there is absolutely zero significant appetite for more direct revolutionary politics. Pretty sure Lenin himself couldn't whip up the proletariat in UK2020.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


bernie's crushing defeat tonight made me finally vote in the leadership at least

its nice that the labour party isn't the DNC and i can just straightforwardly vote left, we may not win it but eh, better kier than loving BIDEN (he still didn't get any vote from me tho)

i got to vote in the scottish deputy leadership too, it was just two candidates, one who is endorsed by gordon brown and one guy who is all eyebrow
i voted for eyebrow

DickEmery
Dec 5, 2004

ThomasPaine posted:

how the gently caress are people looking at joe loving biden and bernie and going 'aye, that biden lad looks like a good shout'

I have been wrestling with this since a lot of my friends have been "Starmer is the one for me!"

Whilst there are more melts then we thought a lot of it is people deciding that there is no way a socialist candidate has a chance against the billions of capital and the full force of "liberal" media which will combine to defeat them.

Whilst I personally think this is a reason to fight harder, I can't say they're wrong and am beginning to understand why they're giving up.

Biden ain't gonna beat Trump mind so the US is hosed either way.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


DickEmery posted:

I have been wrestling with this since a lot of my friends have been "Starmer is the one for me!"

Whilst there are more melts then we thought a lot of it is people deciding that there is no way a socialist candidate has a chance against the billions of capital and the full force of "liberal" media which will combine to defeat them.

Whilst I personally think this is a reason to fight harder, I can't say they're wrong and am beginning to understand why they're giving up.

Biden ain't gonna beat Trump mind so the US is hosed either way.

yeah, also to be fair to kier and his supporters he's not running as a blairite, he's basically running on corbyn's platform more or less. centre-left.

i don't trust the people backing him, and i think he's bojo's ideal opponent, but his platform is pitched as a reconciliation of the two wings not a rejection of one. i think he may even mention socialism in the leaflet he sent me

i'll stick around if he gets in, i'll stick around for as long as labour is anti-austerity. even though mcdonnels loving stupid surplus plan was basically austerity, but i squinted for a couple years to pretend it wasn't

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
I have begun to unfollow all the poo poo take-havers I follow on Twitter and instead put them into a special 'brainworm quarantine zone' private list, this is an excellent feature that means I am only exposed to the lunacy when I choose to be and also doesn't give them the implicit support of a follow, would recommend

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Trump is getting 4 more years but the hopeful destruction of the democrats is worth it

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/LivPosting/status/1237575905439969280?s=19

https://twitter.com/pklinkne/status/1237548891286851584?s=19

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

All these loving melts on twitter going "oh just cos you politically disagree with dorries doesn't mean you shouldn't wish her a fast recovery" like motherfucker she'd kill me as soon as look at me, she's made a career out of killing people for political reasons, of course I hope she loving dies.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Thing with Bernie vs. Biden is it's not just Left vs. Center or Right, it's that Biden's brain is so transparently melted and so utterly, utterly unsuited for any kind of office or, frankly, anything more than assisted living.

His brain's way further gone than Trump's, and Trump's brain is extremely filled with holes bored by worms.

Anyone who putatively cares about America or the Democrats should feel impelled to vote for Bernie even if they disagree on every single one of his actual policies because it's vastly more important to get someone who is at minimum aware of where they are when they wake up in the morning. Christ, Trump might be a rampaging narcissist who has only failed to start WW3 because of his own incredible cowardice, but at least he doesn't seem inclined to start it because he thinks it's 1982 and the reds are making intimidating manuevers in the Carpathians, or whatever the hell Biden is going to believe when he presses the button.

Last chance saloon is the final debate, and when I say "last chance saloon" I mean, like, not just for the Bernie campaign but ultimately for the Dems, for the USA, and for any kind of effort against climate change. e; Galling thing is that it's not really in Bernie's hands it's whether Biden has a meltdown so spectacular that it ruins him.

Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 06:17 on Mar 11, 2020

Qwertycoatl
Dec 31, 2008


I seriously don't understand why Grayling keeps getting jobs. Yeah, he's probably friends with a bunch of policians, but surely May/Johnson/etc have friends who have only majorly hosed up one or two things. Does he have a load of blackmail material? Does Johnson want to look good by comparison?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
How does this affect today's budget lol

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1237635037593505792?s=19

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


Qwertycoatl posted:

I seriously don't understand why Grayling keeps getting jobs. Yeah, he's probably friends with a bunch of policians, but surely May/Johnson/etc have friends who have only majorly hosed up one or two things. Does he have a load of blackmail material? Does Johnson want to look good by comparison?

Id say Grayling has every bit of blackmail accrued, pig picture included, but he’s such a terminal moron that he’d accidentally tweet any pictures he had every time he opened his phone.

On the plus side, if he’s supposed to continue suppression of this you can nearly guarantee it’ll end up being sent to the guardian or something :v:

Doccykins
Feb 21, 2006

It means they can inject a load more into spending (read borrowing) to make number go up. It'll last 2 days

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Hahahah I just learned something interesting this thread will enjoy.

A long time ago I posted in this thread about a financial instrument used by the WHO to generate money to fight a pandemic. I don't recall the exact details but it's something like "deposit some money with us and we'll give you more money back later on, UNLESS a pandemic happens in which case we'll use all your money for that and you can go gently caress yourself"

Well, half a billion is tied up in that now, and curiously the WHO is not declaring this a pandemic

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/425m-in-world-bank-catastrophe-bonds-set-to-default-if-coronavirus-declared-a-pandemic-by-june

quote:

“As an investor, we do not want to lose money,” said Chin Liu, a portfolio manager at Amundi Pioneer, a Boston-based firm that purchased the bonds as a way to diversify the company's $1 billion catastrophe fund. “But then, we also understand if it’s unfortunately triggered, it benefits every single person, including ourselves, to keep the virus controlled.”

Microplastics fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Mar 11, 2020

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good
Oh great, we're copying the Amercians and trying to quantitatively ease our way out of what is fundamentally a supply / labour issue.

https://twitter.com/bankofengland/status/1237635066089611265

Gotta prop up those banks while doing absolutely nothing for the average person.

Quick, roll out the distraction dog!

https://twitter.com/BBCNormanS/status/1237647490545078272

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Beyond all reason I still want to hold on to some kind of hope that those born after 1975 or so will not mellow out as they age

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
https://twitter.com/gohkokhan/status/1237040096571871233

https://twitter.com/juliaoftoronto/status/1236967717535731712

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

Sanitary Naptime posted:

Id say Grayling has every bit of blackmail accrued, pig picture included, but he’s such a terminal moron that he’d accidentally tweet any pictures he had every time he opened his phone.

On the plus side, if he’s supposed to continue suppression of this you can nearly guarantee it’ll end up being sent to the guardian or something :v:

Blackmail is all I can think off, that or the need to keep a fall guy on hand that no one cares about.

but they keep putting him into the wrong department, and he never ends up taking the blame.

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
shiiiiiit it's coming for me

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