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Madagascar hasn't shut its borders yet, it's probably fine. Three people out of hundreds have cold symptoms after travelling from Europe in March.
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Tsaedje posted:Madagascar hasn't shut its borders yet, it's probably fine.
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Mar 11, 2020 12:30
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Rebus posted:It's still UK based. The money is 30% better. I know money isn't everything but 30% is a bit of a no-brainer....
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Mar 11, 2020 12:57
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Khablam posted:LOL!!! Is that a Plague Inc joke!?!? In 2020, one for the old schoolers  But seriously symptomatic people self isolating is nothing to panic about. Cancelling an outdoor event is just security theatre. Wash your hands.
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Mar 11, 2020 13:02
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who the gently caress is scraeming "WASH YOUR HANDS" at my house. show yourself, coward. i will never wash my hands
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Mar 11, 2020 13:04
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Tsaedje posted:In 2020, one for the old schoolers the problem is that they’re not self isolating and apparently covid19 gives you terminal brain worms and makes you want to travel even more
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Mar 11, 2020 13:23
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I had a cold earlier this week, and watching people run for cover when I sneezed made it all worthwhile. I recommend trying this whether ill or not.
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Mar 11, 2020 13:36
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Tsaedje posted:In 2020, one for the old schoolers Can't wait for the crew at spa francorchamps shouting WASH YOUR HANDS! through megaphones at the army of hyper drunk English and Dutch tourists peeing in the forest.
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Mar 11, 2020 13:37
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I love that the take away from this whole loving virus thing is that society can’t even establish basic hygiene standards. Just lmao
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Mar 11, 2020 13:52
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tbh washing your hands probably doesn't do anything in a grandstand full of people breathing on the head of the person in front of them
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Mar 11, 2020 14:27
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It's a shame people breathe through the top of their heads like a whale, if we had mouths and noses on the front there'd be minimal danger from the top of heads being breathed on. People sneezing into their hands and touching surfaces without washing them is a far bigger problem unless someone is coughing directly into your mouth or licks your eyeball or something.
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Mar 11, 2020 14:34
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Tsaedje posted:It's a shame people breathe through the top of their heads like a whale, if we had mouths and noses on the front there'd be minimal danger from the top of heads being breathed on. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/transmission.html Nope, breathing in the respiratory droplets of a carrier who has just sneezed is the primary method of transmission. If somebody who is infected sneezes within 6 feet of you, congratulations, you have it too now. Washing your hands can't hurt, they mention lower down that touching contaminated objects may spread the disease, but really you should have been washing your hands all along anyway. Basically, according to the CDC, we're all hosed.
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Mar 11, 2020 14:43
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jazzyhattrick posted:Basically, according to the CDC, we're all hosed. We aren’t all “hosed” the mortality rate of this thing is almost identical to every other strain of influenza, the hysteria surrounding this whole thing is completely unwarranted.
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Mar 11, 2020 14:56
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the kentucky quid posted:We aren’t all “hosed” the mortality rate of this thing is almost identical to every other strain of influenza, the hysteria surrounding this whole thing is completely unwarranted. we should still cancel formula 1 tho, just because it sucks rear end
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Mar 11, 2020 14:59
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the kentucky quid posted:We aren’t all “hosed” the mortality rate of this thing is almost identical to every other strain of influenza, the hysteria surrounding this whole thing is completely unwarranted. Off by a magnitude of 10. Unless they revised it from 2% mortality to 0.2%.
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Mar 11, 2020 15:02
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track day bro! posted:we should still cancel formula 1 tho, just because it sucks rear end I completely agree with this
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Mar 11, 2020 15:02
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iospace posted:Off by a magnitude of 10. Unless they revised it from 2% mortality to 0.2%.
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Mar 11, 2020 15:08
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iospace posted:Off by a magnitude of 10. Unless they revised it from 2% mortality to 0.2%. The reported mortality rate is much higher than the actual mortality rate because it's based solely on reported cases. We're not going to know the actual mortality rate for a long time, probably. However it is still not correct to compare it to the flu because the flu is extremely predictable - we have vaccines, we have treatments, we know roughly when it's going to arrive every year and are ready for it. Another influenza-like virus on top of the seasonal flu is going to stretch healthcare systems to their limits. That said - we're definitely not all hosed, it's already slowing in China and people are going back to work there. It's a big deal for sure but a lot of the hysteria is indeed overblown.
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Mar 11, 2020 15:10
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track day bro! posted:we should still cancel formula 1 tho, just because it sucks rear end Lewis will still rise above COVID-19, because he's #Blessed.
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Mar 11, 2020 15:12
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jazzyhattrick posted:Lewis will still rise above COVID-19, because he's #Blessed. I wonder if he will say "Bahrain has the best fans ever" when there is no fans this year?
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Mar 11, 2020 15:16
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It's easier to divide reported deaths by reported cases and come up with a scary headline figure than to determine how many asymptomatic or unreported cases there are, especially when most of the numbers are coming out of places where they've been overwhelmed and can only deal with severe cases. GP friends of mine reckon they may well have been dealing with cases all winter, but without any way to distinguish it from any other virus with similar symptoms. There have been some unusually nasty 'colds' this winter. It's not nice, but unless you have other complications the danger of attending an F1 race is not high. If you are 80 and have heart or lung problems, you probably shouldn't be breathing in F1 fumes anyway.
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Mar 11, 2020 15:18
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You can also pick out and manage influenza mortality rates from a first world country with herd immunity that looks stupidly low and also inflate the poo poo out of coronavirus because there’s going to be a lag on actual cases versus reported. Literally just talking to a couple of directors doing some pricing work at my company yesterday and there’s no plans to change life or health insurance rates in response to the virus which to me kind of says this is not even remotely close to a big deal despite people losing their loving minds over it.
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Mar 11, 2020 15:22
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Last week I saw a guy wearing a dust mask only over his mouth with blue nitrile gloves on who took a piss gloves on and walked out of the bathroom This is the level of stupidity we’re dealing with
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Mar 11, 2020 15:32
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the kentucky quid posted:We aren’t all “hosed” the mortality rate of this thing is almost identical to every other strain of influenza, the hysteria surrounding this whole thing is completely unwarranted. Also, and this is where people should see the logic and worry, the flu does the damage it does despite being a milder disease, despite being less infectious, and despite there **being a goddamn vaccine** SARS2: SARS-harder is worse than the flu by literally every metric, sometimes by a factor of 10, and there is no vaccine.
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Mar 11, 2020 15:34
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Khablam posted:It's anywhere from 10-50x more deadly and is much more sensitive to pre-existing conditions. You don't have to be Khablam about everything, we've already explained why these metrics are flawed.
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Mar 11, 2020 15:37
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It’s pretty dumb to be all Simpsons comic guy about it and “accckkthually it’s the same as the flu bc I’m making a lot of assumptions”
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Mar 11, 2020 15:40
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This isn’t even remotely approaching the seriousness or mortality of SARS lmao
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Mar 11, 2020 15:40
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:It’s pretty dumb to be all Simpsons comic guy about it and “accckkthually it’s the same as the flu bc I’m making a lot of assumptions” Accckkthually I'm saying it's the same as the flu because one of my best friends is an epidemiologist and said "yeah it looks about as severe as the flu."
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Mar 11, 2020 15:43
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the kentucky quid posted:This isn’t even remotely approaching the seriousness or mortality of SARS lmao Nobody is saying that, you said it’s basically the same as the flu
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Mar 11, 2020 15:44
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your friend wicka posted:You don't have to be Khablam about everything, we've already explained why these metrics are flawed. If it's not reasonably contained and the ~20% of patients that need to be in an ICU, are spilling over into general wards or hallways, then you have a very serious problem on your hands. It's not a big problem when only a few people get it. It's a massive problem once you overwhelm the medical system.
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Mar 11, 2020 15:45
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:It’s pretty dumb to be all Simpsons comic guy about it and “accckkthually it’s the same as the flu bc I’m making a lot of assumptions” I’m saying I talked to several actuaries who have lost their poo poo over disability incident rates and raised our rates 4 times in the past year and they said they’ve got no plans for revisions to life or health rates or underwriting guidelines. That to me a layman, sounds like it’s not a big deal 🤷🏼♂️
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Mar 11, 2020 15:45
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Khablam posted:The reported mortality rate is also dependent on people running to get tested at an early stage. It's also being kept low by stays in ICU. OK Khablam
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Mar 11, 2020 15:46
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If you aren't elderly and you don't have pre-existing conditions you are overwhelmingly likely not to die from covid19 if you happen to become infected. It's serious and unpleasant, but it's not a world ending plague
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the kentucky quid posted:I’m saying I talked to several actuaries who have lost their poo poo over disability incident rates and raised our rates 4 times in the past year and they said they’ve got no plans for revisions to life or health rates or underwriting guidelines. That to me a layman, sounds like it’s not a big deal 🤷🏼♂️ Ah yes the actuaries, fingers on the pulse of emerging viruses
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Mar 11, 2020 15:46
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Tsaedje posted:If you aren't elderly and you don't have pre-existing conditions you are overwhelmingly likely not to die from covid19 if you happen to become infected. 45% of Americans are obese.
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Mar 11, 2020 15:48
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Covid19 isn’t changing my life in any appreciable way beyond work implementing some policy changes but it’s weird to be deadset on hand waving away the potential risks
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Mar 11, 2020 15:48
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Khablam posted:Obesity is a condition the CDC are recognising as a pre-existing condition that highly increases it's mortality rate. What’s the problem here?
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Mar 11, 2020 15:48
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lets all kill ourselfs first just in case
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Mar 11, 2020 15:48
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Covid19 isn’t changing my life in any appreciable way beyond work implementing some policy changes but it’s weird to be deadset on hand waving away the potential risks We’ve ran ourselves into a global recession because of stupid needless hysteria. Somebody has to be the adult in the room and tell people to stop crying, this isn’t a big deal.
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the kentucky quid posted:We’ve ran ourselves into a global recession because of stupid needless hysteria. Somebody has to be the adult in the room and tell people to stop crying, this isn’t a big deal. Good thing you’re here to stop the ebbs and flows of the entire global economy then
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