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galenanorth posted:This might be a really dumb reason to vote third party, but I figure that it's wrong for politicians to put together coalitions of support by bribing their opponents into dropping out, like Biden and and like Hillary Clinton did with Warren in 2016. And if it's wrong enough that I wouldn't do it myself, why should I reward that behavior by voting for it? TIME FOR SOME GAME THEORY It's called a "trigger strategy" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigger_strategy
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Nichael posted:Also, I can't stress enough that Bernie essentially let Cisneros languish, and then they both lost their races in Texas. Coordinate on the ground with active and legitimate progressive campaigns. It's mutually beneficial! Been working on a local race that was in discussions to mutually endorse with Sanders. After the poo poo with Cenk, the Sanders campaign went dark. The prevailing theory is they got spooked out of endorsing local/regional candidates because the potential risk was supposedly pretty big. Which, yeah, some candidates are obviously great. But they're also flooded with hundreds if not thousands of people endorsed by some little disguised succ "grassroots" org like Adam Schiff's "Feel the Bern PAC" that turns out to unsurprisingly start yelling YAAAS KWEEEN at chuck schumer on twitter OR galactic crank fiefdom that was a Bernie DNC delegate in 2016 that no one at a national level knows the history of that are wildly problematic due to past racism/sexism/homophobia/transphobia/sex pest poo poo/history of undermining the left. both are bad. I got pretty active in local politics after the 2016 election, and the above situations happen ALL THE TIME unbutthurtable has issued a correction as of 18:14 on Mar 11, 2020 |
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Lightning Knight posted:I think I should own up to being one of those people, and I’m sure there’s a lot, who optimistically and naively believed that if we just held our tongues and played the game we could win fair and square and win hearts and minds. And that was an abject failure. The left needs electoralists willing to play absolutely dirty and to focus on an underground insurgency taking over state and local level party apparatuses or directly challenging them via third parties for local control, where it’s the easiest to swing. what if anything are the regulatory limitations on campaigns coordinating, such that you've got like the Nice Clean Demsoc and Crazy Joe Who Wants To The Liberal Candidate Investigated For Pedophilia printing their campaign materials out of the same office
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bernie 2020, nina 2028
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Louisgod posted:WEEWOO WEEWOOO lovely tweets attract lovely posters You know who else criticized Warrens m4a plan? OJ
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Taintrunner posted:https://twitter.com/davidastinwalsh/status/1237537733846822913?s=21 I loving demand a poll of the olds that specifically lays out how many voted with this mindset https://twitter.com/DavidAstinWalsh/status/1237538753511481344?s=19
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Nichael posted:we also need a loving bench for 2022, 2024, 2026, 2028, etc, and we currently have maybe like six good democrats. there's zero good senators besides bernie.
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:The only reason we deserve 4 more years of Trump is if you guys all fall for Russian troll farm efforts pushing the "Bernie or Bust" movement ... Again. Take a look around. They're here ... sowing discord ... Again. Do you feel demoralized? Good. That's their goal. All the intelligence agencies agreed, and Mueller testified to their concerted and aggressive effort to manipulate discussion on social media platforms. Don't forget America. This ... right here ... on this social media platform IS the cyber war battleground. You are the troops. Vote blue no matter who. src yr qts
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO JOE wanna see #WhatAreYouGonnaDoJoe trending
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Lightning Knight posted:I think I should own up to being one of those people, and I’m sure there’s a lot, who optimistically and naively believed that if we just held our tongues and played the game we could win fair and square and win hearts and minds. And that was an abject failure. The left needs electoralists willing to play absolutely dirty and to focus on an underground insurgency taking over state and local level party apparatuses or directly challenging them via third parties for local control, where it’s the easiest to swing. what we need is a left wing voters' union separate from the parties, able to say and do the things that decorum won't allow
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"Vote downtickets for progressives" *checks ballot* An appointed inherited failson running unopposed for state congress, a lovely incumbent senator, and a local race involving literally an insurance agent pushing for public option and a no name old man pushing the same with theironly difference being their ages. Yeah I am just voting for Bernie.
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spacemang_spliff posted:What’d Bernie say "hey Joe, gently caress around and find out. see u Sunday slapnutz"
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I'd like to vote for whoever is replacing Kennedy III but everybody's from Brookline and I have no idea how to differentiate these people.
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Good statements but if he doesn't blindsided and bamboozle Joe with anecdotes about his abhorrent record it won't work
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shut....... the....... gently caress............ up....................... liberal https://twitter.com/CharlesPPierce/status/1237787803393589248
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that speech kind of made me depressed because in the scenario where biden does get the nomination, very little if anything at all is going to be done about those problems bernie listed & no i will not vote down ticket either if Biden is the nominee because my democratic option is charlie loving crist
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RaySmuckles posted:what we need is a left wing voters' union that would be called a party in any sensible voting system, where the party would then decide if it wanted to join a coalition with other party/parties
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galenanorth posted:The people calling any opposition as being motivated by Russia, especially encouraged by bot-posting, just makes me want to vote third party to have it on record that people opposed actually exist in real life and not cyberspace They're addressing like formal and extremely pompous public announcements to "the bots" so it's unclear whether they literally believe there are sapient Russian androids running around or it's morphed into a generic insult for non-shitlib or they just all have terminal Biden Brain and whatever they say only coincidentally resembles a coherent English sentence
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Taintrunner posted:https://twitter.com/ninaturner/status/1237788901303037955?s=21 good 
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C-SPAN Caller posted:"Vote downtickets for progressives" lol my local school board election last election had 2 open positions and 3 candidates: 1. Woman who was a retired lifelong teacher currently serving on the board 2. 30-something white guy running on Using A Technology and Data-Driven Approach to improve the schools 3. Old white guy who started his response to every single question with "As the CEO of a construction company," guess which 2 won
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Don Pigeon posted:it's too bad nobody seems to loving care we're down like a quarter of a percent of the total, gently caress you
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RaySmuckles posted:what we need is a left wing voters' union I think you’re conceptually on the right track but I don’t think organizing around something as ephemeral as voting will have staying power. for unions to succeed people need a material stake in them, which is why we see labor and tenant unions. we need union members to aggressively radicalize and begin pushing our stale union leadership. I work for one of the major logistics companies the Teamsters represents and the membership wanted to strike last year and the leadership vetoed. when they struck in the 90s they brought world logistics to its knees. there is immense power in labor radicalization.
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Ah, I see, our best play is to extract concessions from a party and its chosen candidate, both of which literally believe in absolutely nothing except ensuring that absolutely everybody to their left is absolutely destroyed, and both of which have stated emphatically that they will give no ear to progressives but will consider a Republican as VP
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MizPiz posted:I loving demand a poll of the olds that specifically lays out how many voted with this mindset Everyone over 55 should drop dead.
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Percelus posted:no other candidate running has ongoing corruption scandal, decades of questionable political decisions and a melting brain Quoting this post from 2016
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