|
Stuffed bear positioning is vital to really pull the scene together
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2020 16:32
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 28, 2024 06:42 |
|
|
The next Fallout game should have a town where someone kept accidentally setting off the "incoming nukes" alarm, so when the bombs actually fell no one was taking cover.
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2020 17:54
|
|
|
Chamale posted:The next Fallout game should have a town where someone kept accidentally setting off the "incoming nukes" alarm, so when the bombs actually fell no one was taking cover. The Boy Who Cried Nuke
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2020 17:56
|
|
|
Fallout in Hawaii would be interesting. At least, in theory. Bethesda has trouble taking advantage of that kinda thing.
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2020 19:05
|
|
|
Admiral Joeslop posted:Fallout in Hawaii would be interesting. At least, in theory. Bethesda has trouble taking advantage of that kinda thing. Hell, I'd love to see a competent company take a run at that Fallout adjacent game that took place in post apocalyptic Florida.
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2020 19:23
|
|
|
Admiral Joeslop posted:Fallout in Hawaii would be interesting. At least, in theory. Bethesda has trouble taking advantage of that kinda thing. I don't know if I could handle another Point Lookout
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2020 19:26
|
|
|
Fallout But There's Finally Water Combat Against Horrifying Mutated Water Creatures Granted, topping The Red Death might be a challenge
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2020 19:29
|
|
|
Iron Crowned posted:Hell, I'd love to see a competent company take a run at that Fallout adjacent game that took place in post apocalyptic Florida.
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2020 19:29
|
|
|
Admiral Joeslop posted:Fallout in Hawaii would be interesting. At least, in theory. Bethesda has trouble taking advantage of that kinda thing. I've lowkey thought about running a tabletop campaign set in fallout hawaii for years, mostly as an excuse to subject my players to all the surf rock i can find
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2020 19:36
|
|
|
Quill posted:When the bombs start falling, why not try and create a funny scene out of your human remains instead? Maybe crawl into a bathtub with a saxophone? Todd? Is that you?
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2020 19:56
|
|
|
we all gotta die jacking off like that mount vesuvius guy
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2020 20:05
|
|
|
Quill posted:When the bombs start falling, why not try and create a funny scene out of your human remains instead? Maybe crawl into a bathtub with a saxophone? Nah. Go up on the roof with your significant other. Sit down in some lawn chairs and enjoy a few bottles of vodka while you play checkers with bottlecaps. Make sure you wear a funny hat, too.
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2020 20:07
|
|
|
remember to strap one of the bottles to your hand for added poignancy
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2020 20:10
|
|
|
I'm gonna be in a bathtub with dozens of inhalers of Jet a well known prewar chem.
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2020 22:54
|
|
|
cheesetriangles posted:I'm gonna be in a bathtub with dozens of inhalers of Jet a well known prewar chem. I assume all your inhalers will be full, as opposed to empty, as they would be if you had just used them?
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2020 22:56
|
|
|
Yeah all full. I'm just hoarding them.
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2020 23:54
|
|
|
Bethesda designer says in interview whole team shocked to learn players enjoyed cooperating in online co-op game!Bethesda designer Ferret Baudoin posted:The funny thing is that in some respects [the players] added the most human things of all. The role-playing, for example, or some of the stories you hear about people dressed up as Santa Claus giving out gifts. That was something we didn't anticipate. We had whole plans for ways to let players murder each other, and they just wouldn't do it. We had all these plans for PvP, and actually, we have the least PvP audience ever. We have a weird, wonderful audience that would rather help each other out even when they have the other options. https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-03-08-fallout-76-wants-to-bring-humanity-to-the-game-through-npcs
|
|
#
?
Mar 11, 2020 23:54
|
|
|
Like Do I just misremember statistics, or was the lesson that only about 10-20% of gamers wanted to kill other players (when there was something else to do in the game) not pretty firmly established more than a decade ago?
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 00:10
|
|
|
Dr. Quarex posted:Like most players who want more balanced pvp move to games centered around pvp
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 00:19
|
|
|
TheAgent posted:PvP in roleplaying games always amounts to stomping lowbies so not a whole lot of people partake in it (in fo76s case, less than 2% of all players, which is why their short lived, dumb rear end Survival mode was headed straight for death before it even began. why they spent even more time on nuclear winter when the battle royal craze was being done fifty times better, I dunno) (O.K. one dude in beta tried to beat me to death with a baseball bat but his heart was clearly not in it)
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 00:48
|
|
|
i'd say around 20% of my encounters were hostile. but this was when the game had just come out.
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 00:52
|
|
|
Hell, for all we know lots of people did want to kill other players. But the PvP system was so awful, clunky, and just pointless that anyone who came into with that mindset would have given it up almost immediately. Yeah I'm sure a PvPer is gonna love a game where everyone has to flag up to fight, the defender gets a comical first-hit advantage, and all of it pointless and does nothing anyway. We'll never know how many people wanted to PvP because the game did not offer it in any sensible fashion.
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 01:01
|
|
|
SwitchbladeKult posted:https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-03-08-fallout-76-wants-to-bring-humanity-to-the-game-through-npcs the whole article is hilarious. the people behind fallout 76 are shocked that people want fallout in their fallout game
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 08:36
|
|
|
SwitchbladeKult posted:Bethesda designer says in interview whole team shocked to learn players enjoyed cooperating in online co-op game! This level of unawareness is astounding. Anyone who has been playing cooperative online games during the last three decades could have told them about their experiences, but I guess even basic market research is too much to ask. Bethesda was always at least semi-competent, but now I doubt they could pull off anything except an MTX riddled mobile game. Every trend chasing idiot who was in a managerial position over there deserves nothing, but a swift kick to the curb.
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 13:45
|
|
|
Quill posted:This level of unawareness is astounding. It really is. Like where do you even start with someone like this lol.
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 15:10
|
|
|
It's pretty obvious they had no clue what they wanted Fallout 76 to be. It's Fallout 4-2 with focusing with more of the same: Explore ruined buildings, find funny skeletons, build penis statues out of trash. But it's also Rust and H1Z1 with competitive survival mechanics where you expect people to kill each other for the stuff they have. But it also wants to be Destiny with respawning enemies to kill, with randomised loot and raids. Now it wants to bring back some RPG elements because people cannot shut up about them.
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 16:26
|
|
|
I'm still thinking all of fallout 76 has only been a beta test for a multiplayer elder scrolls even down to the monthly fee. They never cared how well it worked or played because they are just gathering as much knowledge for their big play down the line.
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 16:32
|
|
|
It is just baffling they had no clue what their audience wanted. I can't recall a single conversation online or off about how cool an online Fallout game could be that involved PvP. Literally not one. PvP can be a fun distraction when you get bored of leveling but to think that was what people would be focused on?! Really?! How is it even possible they could be that ignorant to things that interest their target demo? It is mind boggling trying to understand how Bethesda manages to be a successful company when they are so bad at even the most basic things.
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 16:40
|
|
|
"We really thought people would love PvP in our game that only has a single joke PvP option." - A professional game designer
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 16:51
|
|
|
Not to mention survival was incredibly off balanced right from the get go. Letting people bring their adventure mode characters into survival was a terrible idea.
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 16:55
|
|
|
I would have appreciated a raider faction. Go talk to Rose and sign up to be a raider. Server wide notification and a red name. Hostile to everyone. Diablo 2 style. Limited fast travel options. Get some kill streak rewards, go gank some noobs, and get smashed by the community police. 1 death. Sign up again tomorrow for another try.
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 16:56
|
|
|
I am loving tired of generic raiders. Even in the old games the raider factions were more like tribes or biker gangs. Wannabe gangsters, biker mongols, snake venom dudes. Just give me something other than 500,000 nameless illiterate "raiders" who outnumber civilized populations 50-1.
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 17:25
|
|
|
they did have some decent differences between the raider factions in fo76 and I thought it was kinda neato all the super rich idiots on ski vacations became the raiders
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 17:32
|
|
|
SwitchbladeKult posted:It is just baffling they had no clue what their audience wanted. I can't recall a single conversation online or off about how cool an online Fallout game could be that involved PvP. Literally not one. PvP can be a fun distraction when you get bored of leveling but to think that was what people would be focused on?! Really?! How is it even possible they could be that ignorant to things that interest their target demo? It is mind boggling trying to understand how Bethesda manages to be a successful company when they are so bad at even the most basic things.
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 17:54
|
|
|
Arcsquad12 posted:I am loving tired of generic raiders. Even in the old games the raider factions were more like tribes or biker gangs. Wannabe gangsters, biker mongols, snake venom dudes. I haven't played F76 but they actually did have warring raider factions in F4 that actually change based on which ones you kill first....but in true Bethesda fashion there is no related quests, they all wear the same armor and all this is only gleaned from terminal entries So a good idea that was implemented so poorly it ended up not mattering, which is kind of Bethesda's MO
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 18:25
|
|
|
All the raiders are dead. The only things you fight are mutant monsters, ghouls, red ghouls, super mutants, and mole men. You do a quest to check out the raider groups and they are described to you for what they did and stuff, etc.
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 18:28
|
|
|
Yeah the raider factions in Fallout 76 are probably the most interesting outside of Fallout: New Vegas. Despite, you know, all being dead.
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 18:47
|
|
|
I'd love to see a Fallout game in a city hit by a "neutron bomb", where a massive blast of radiation killed everyone instantly. All microorganisms were also killed, so there's no decomposition; we see the people sitting exactly as they were when when they died. Families eating, people working at the office, making whoopie in a back-alley motel. (Yes I know that neutron bombs don't really work that way. This is Fallout, where Radiation Is Magic.)
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 19:32
|
|
|
Pretty sure if they would've made a genuine working PvP game there would be less people complaining how "nobody asked for this"
|
|
#
?
Mar 12, 2020 19:57
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 28, 2024 06:42 |
|
|
Gynovore posted:I'd love to see a Fallout game in a city hit by a "neutron bomb", where a massive blast of radiation killed everyone instantly. All microorganisms were also killed, so there's no decomposition; we see the people sitting exactly as they were when when they died. Families eating, people working at the office, making whoopie in a back-alley motel. the decomp should start at the edges though, like you can progress from the icky outside into a pristine ground zero
|
|
#
?
Mar 13, 2020 11:56
|
|
