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WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

I think it's a cutesy - maybe American - rendition of an older Greek or Roman philosophy.

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Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

I think pretty much all centrism is just people not understanding the issues, but having an ego big enough that they can't accept they don't understand. So they act like they're oh-so-wise and above all the partisan sheeple.

I suspect this to be true as well.

Also you can often replace "but having an ego big enough that they can't accept they don't understand" with "not caring enough to inform themselves properly to be able to understand but having an ego big enough that they want to pretend they have an informed opinion anyway".


Seriously, how often do you have a political discussion with someone about something and they tell you "hey, I just don't actually know enough about this to have an informed opinion"? That poo poo virtually never happens. Somehow everyone has an opinion about everything, even though it's not possible to actually know enough about everything to be able to do that.

DarkHorse
Dec 13, 2006

Nap Ghost
This was an ad someone spent money to make



I'm hoping it was designed by his ten year old son, because any adult that thought "yes, this is how I want to present myself to people so they vote for me" should not be within 100 yards of a courtroom unless they're in handcuffs, much less in charge of one

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

Help me out, because I'm not hearing the dog whistle:



Posted by a not-that-religious elderly relative. He's the prime demographic to be harmed by this, so taking this at face value doesn't make sense. Is it racism, assuming other cultures will be hit harder?

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Katt posted:

gently caress you, we have no oil! Only pickled fish. Go liberate Norway.

Ah so you have fish oil? Our boomers demand it.

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

Bobulus posted:

Help me out, because I'm not hearing the dog whistle:



Posted by a not-that-religious elderly relative. He's the prime demographic to be harmed by this, so taking this at face value doesn't make sense. Is it racism, assuming other cultures will be hit harder?

I'm just seeing fatalism combined with religious devotion which I take to mean he feels more religious than you ascribe to him from the outside. Why are you trying to see racism here?

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

jojoinnit posted:

I'm just seeing fatalism combined with religious devotion which I take to mean he feels more religious than you ascribe to him from the outside. Why are you trying to see racism here?

Well, his posting making up is like:

20% "I like fast car"
10% Boomer "I hate my wife" humor
30% "You'll never take my guns!!!!!!"
40% "We should close all borders and shoot at anyone who tries to enter the country" level racism.

The only time he brings up god is when he's posting about abortion. So my knee-jerk reaction to this isn't fatalism, it's assuming I'm missing some obvious bit of xenophobia or similar. Or, considering how hard he bites into Trump talking points, I'd expect him to assume the virus will never spread in the U.S.

And the post is getting likes from his friends, so I feel like I'm missing something.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS


I love his courage!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Are Mexican Catholics allowed to pass that on?

Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...
No.

PhantomOfTheCopier
Aug 13, 2008

Pikabooze!

Bobulus posted:

Help me out, because I'm not hearing the dog whistle:


Logical non-sequitur, false statement, lack of evidence, God complex. Seems like lots of bells and whistles.

"If you're a murderer and don't get caught, God approves".

"If you don't drink any water and the paramedics rescue you, the Loch Ness Monster wanted you to be safe".

"If bananas are yellow, elephants are purple".

"A => B" can just be invalid (T=>F).

What he's really saying is "If I try to stay safe but still get injured/disease, I won't be able to mentally cope without blaming 'God' ". Or in other words, "Nothing requires the universe to be fair and I can't deal with that".

Often coupled with a failure to understand statistics or probability, these are the people you want in your casino.



Kinda like my 60+ friend who is convinced of having covid19 early in January or late December despite zero travel or contact with travelers? In a location where the first reported case was January 21.

Raine
Apr 30, 2013

ACCELERATIONIST SUPERDOOMER



Medullah posted:



I love his courage!
brings a tear to my eye when oppressed minorities show their courage

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Bobulus posted:

Help me out, because I'm not hearing the dog whistle:



Posted by a not-that-religious elderly relative. He's the prime demographic to be harmed by this, so taking this at face value doesn't make sense. Is it racism, assuming other cultures will be hit harder?

I mean he could be saying the "impure" will catch it no matter what because god wills it but it could just be religious nihilism trying to sound smart.

borkencode
Nov 10, 2004

That's it, that's the whole meme

tek79
Jun 16, 2008

borkencode posted:


That's it, that's the whole meme

Not sure about her grades in history, but this is fun because, IIRC, she graduated cum laude from Boston University in both International Relations and Economics.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own
Yeah, but she doesn't have real world experience! Also, being a bartender is an unacceptable job for a congresswoman!

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:
And thus by a shifting of rhetorical focus, AOC is both a liberal ivory tower elite and a naive teenager.

Didn't we used to have an Eco smilie a few years ago for this very purpose?

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

:umberto:

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




Facebook needs to die.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

Forceholy posted:

Yeah, but she doesn't have real world experience! Also, being a bartender is an unacceptable job for a congresswoman!

Anyone have any good boomer responses to the whole "Anyone can grow up to be president (or congresswoman)...wait not like that!" dichotomy? I sadly didn't save this one before I got blocked, but I got a multiple paragraph rant from a friend-of-a-family-member about "maintaining the dignity of office", how "nobody in my generation will ever be qualified because their older and more respectable opponents will just bring up leaked nudes", "elected officials should be professionals in all aspects of their lives". I think what got me the block was saying "So...what if a reality gameshow host ran for president?"

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
He worked hard for that game show position, not like kids these days expecting host positions just handed to them

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

jivjov posted:

Anyone have any good boomer responses to the whole "Anyone can grow up to be president (or congresswoman)...wait not like that!" dichotomy? I sadly didn't save this one before I got blocked, but I got a multiple paragraph rant from a friend-of-a-family-member about "maintaining the dignity of office", how "nobody in my generation will ever be qualified because their older and more respectable opponents will just bring up leaked nudes", "elected officials should be professionals in all aspects of their lives". I think what got me the block was saying "So...what if a reality gameshow host ran for president?"

Call it for what it is. These people aren't operating in good faith and you shouldn't spend the cognitive energy to do so either. They don't hate them because they're "unqualified", they hate them because theyre poor (or at least lower income), young and have different values.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
Props to those of you that still have the energy to battle your family. I decided it just wasn't worth it.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Medullah posted:

Props to those of you that still have the energy to battle your family. I decided it just wasn't worth it.

It did a lot for my mental health to accept I wouldn't be able to convince them with the best arguments in the world so just shitposting saved me a lot of time and made them mad.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Medullah posted:

Props to those of you that still have the energy to battle your family. I decided it just wasn't worth it.

I gave up and now just make snarky twitteresque comments which I know my mom recognizes but isn't quick-witted enough to conjure a rejoinder to unless she's got infinite time with a keyboard and google

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS


This is third of this type my dad has posted in the last two days.

Mystic Mongol
Jan 5, 2007

Your life's been thrown in disarray already--I wouldn't want you to feel pressured.


College Slice

Medullah posted:



This is third of this type my dad has posted in the last two days.

So you're saying the flu kills one in one thousand people, and the Coronavirus killed one in twenty? Wow, the Coronavirus is fifty times deadlier! That's a lot deadlier, I sure hope people work together to make sure it doesn't spread as much as the flu does!

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan

Medullah posted:



This is third of this type my dad has posted in the last two days.
ask him for a number at which we should worry.

that's the thing with these fucks. "it's ONLY [blank] deaths" they say but, like, how many deaths before it's no longer ok? because you can say "it's ONLY [blank] deaths" until you run out of people. tell me exactly how many deaths you find acceptable.

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.
Copied and pasted from a share from a boomer friend on Facebook:


quote:

TRUMP DOES THE UNTHINKABLE. by Liz Crokin

As an entertainment journalist, I've had the opportunity to cover Trump for over a decade, and in all my years covering him I've never heard anything negative about the man until he announced he was running for president. Keep in mind, I got paid a lot of money to dig up dirt on celebrities like Trump for a living so a scandalous story on the famous billionaire could've potentially sold a lot of magazines and would've been a Huge feather in my cap.

Instead, I found that he doesn't drink alcohol or do drugs, he's a hardworking businessman. On top of that, he's one of the most generous celebrities in the world with a heart filled with more gold than his $100 million New York penthouse.

Since the media has failed so miserably at reporting the truth about Trump, I decided to put together some of the acts of kindness he's committed over three decades which has gone virtually unnoticed or fallen on deaf ears.

In 1986, Trump prevented the foreclosure of Annabell Hill's family farm after her husband committed suicide. Trump personally phoned down to the auction to stop the sale of her home and offered the widow money. Trump decided to take action after he saw Hill's pleas for help in news reports.

In 1988, a commercial airline refused to fly Andrew Ten, a sick
Orthodox Jewish child with a rare illness, across the country to get medical care because he had to travel with an elaborate life-support system. His grief-stricken parents contacted Trump for help and he didn't hesitate to send his own plane to take the child from Los Angeles to New York so he could get his treatment.

In 1991, 200 Marines who served in Operation Desert Storm spent time at Camp Lejune in North Carolina before they were scheduled to return home to their families. However, the Marines were told that a mistake had been made and an aircraft would not be able to take them home on their scheduled departure date. When Trump got wind of this, he sent his plane to make two trips from North Carolina to Miami to safely return the Gulf War Marines to their loved ones.

In 1995, a motorist stopped to help Trump after the limo he was traveling in got a flat tire. Trump asked the Good Samaritan how he could repay him for his help. All the man asked for was a bouquet of flowers for his wife. A few weeks later Trump sent the flowers with a note that read: We've paid off your mortgage.

In 1996, Trump filed a lawsuit against the city of Palm Beach ,
Florida, accusing the town of discriminating against his Mar-a-Lago resort club because it allowed Jews and blacks. Abraham Foxman, who as the Anti-Defamation League Director at the time, said Trump put the light on Palm Beach not on the beauty and the glitter, but on its seamier side of discrimination. Foxman also noted that Trump's charge had a trickle-down effect because other clubs followed his lead and
began admitting Jews and blacks.

In 2000, Maury Povich featured a little girl named Megan who struggled with Brittle Bone Disease on his show and Trump happened to be watching. Trump said the little girl's story and positive attitude touched his heart. So he contacted Maury and gifted the little girl and her family with a very generous check.

In 2008, after Jennifer Hudson's family members were tragically murdered in Chicago , Trump put the Oscar-winning actress and her family up at his Windy City hotel for free. In addition to that, Trump's security took extra measures to ensure Hudson and her family members were safe during such a difficult time.

In 2013, New York bus driver Darnell Barton spotted a woman close to the edge of a bridge staring at the traffic below as he drove by. He stopped the bus, got out and put his arm around the woman and saved her life by convincing her to not jump. When Trump heard about this story, he sent the hero bus driver a check simply because he believed his good deed deserved to be rewarded.

In 2014, Trump gave $25,000 to Sgt. Andrew Tamoressi after he spent seven months in a Mexican jail for accidentally crossing the US-Mexico border. President Barack Obama couldn't even be bothered to make one phone call to assist with the United States Marine's release; however, Trump opened his pocketbook to help this serviceman get back on his feet.

In 2016, Melissa Consin Young attended a Trump rally and tearfully thanked Trump for changing her life. She said she proudly stood on stage with Trump as Miss Wisconsin USA in 2005. However, years later she found herself struggling with an incurable illness and during her darkest days, she explained that she received a handwritten letter from Trump telling her she's the bravest woman, I know. She said the opportunities that she got from Trump and his organizations ultimately
provided her Mexican-American son with a full-ride to college.

Lynne Patton, a black female executive for the Trump Organization, released a statement in 2016 defending her boss against accusations that he's a racist and a bigot. She tearfully revealed how she's struggled with substance abuse and addiction for years. Instead of kicking her to the curb, she said the Trump Organization and his entire family loyally stood by her through immensely difficult times.

Donald Trump's kindness knows no bounds and his generosity has and continues to touch the lives of people from every sex, race, and religion. When Trump sees someone in need, he wants to help.

Two decades ago, Oprah asked Trump in a TV interview if he'd ever run for president. He said: "If it got so bad, I would never want to rule it out totally because I really am tired of seeing what's happening with this country.'"

That day has come. Trump sees that America is in need and he wants to help. How unthinkable! On the other hand, have you ever heard of Hillary or Obama ever doing such things with their own resources?

Now that's really unthinkable! Might be worth passing on!!!

Just shows we hired the right guy. If Hollywood , the liberals and the

media ever STOP harassing him, Trump will have time to do many more positive things for our country....the good ole United States of America!!

PS ~ To those who are already Fact Checking, don't bother . . . already did it, and all the stories are TRUE!

The Liberal, progressive, socialists want to destroy this guy. .

Colander Crotch
Nov 24, 2005

I- I don't even know what you just called me!
Well, we better not fact check any if that. She already did and it's all true. You can believe it because she said so.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
They left out one of my family's favorites, that Trump himself was at ground zero on 911 with workers he paid out of his own pocket clearing rubble. Same family members who share that he saw Muslims cheering from his penthouse.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
also I don't really give a gently caress if it's all true. A rapist billionaire neofascist did the bare minimum to appear human for the cameras, across decades, and it cost him the equivalent of me giving a panhandler a toonie. Great, but he's still Donald Trump doing what he does now. Same goes for Michael Bloomberg, for Elon Musk, for Jeff Bezos, for all these fuckers.

central park looks sweeter by the day

Grimdude
Sep 25, 2006

It was a shame how he carried on
People are loving morons about large numbers, or at least they choose to be when it benefits their political stance. They see someone with multiple billions of dollars donating a few million here and there and go "Oh wowee! That's so much money! They are quite the humanitarian! I guess all that bad stuff people said about the rich isn't true after all!"

Obviously it's to a much smaller scale with Trump because he's not a billionaire, but all that poo poo is still drop-in-the-bucket levels of "being a good dude."

PhantomOfTheCopier
Aug 13, 2008

Pikabooze!

Medullah posted:



This is third of this type my dad has posted in the last two days.
"Wait who gives a gently caress about the children?"

Or, "90% of people over age 55 that have been diagnosed with covid19 have died". (I do not know the actual number)

The Neal!
Sep 3, 2004

HAY GUYZ! I want to be a director

Colander Crotch posted:

Well, we better not fact check any if that. She already did and it's all true. You can believe it because she said so.

Honestly even if it was all true it's a list showing the fact that on rare occasions once every few years (with an 8 year gap at one point) Trump has been sufficiently moved by the plight of the downtrodden to shuffle off his throne and dole out a few coins with no real proportional expense or sacrifice on his end.

The Neal! fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Mar 12, 2020

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

He worked hard for that game show position, not like kids these days expecting host positions just handed to them

Twitch has democratized TV hosting. CMM.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

jojoinnit posted:

Copied and pasted from a share from a boomer friend on Facebook:

I'm glad that that sort of stuff wouldn't get much traction if it was written about Boris Johnson, if only because of the journalist that he personally threw under the bus and is now suffering from the coronavirus in an Iranian prison.

tek79
Jun 16, 2008

The Neal! posted:

Honestly even if it was all true it's a list showing the fact that on rare occasions once every few years Trump has been sufficiently moved by the plight of the downtrodden to shuffle off his throne and dole out a few coins with no real proportional expense or sacrifice on his end.

I think this is even giving him too much benefit of the doubt. Anything Trump has ever done that might look vaguely philanthropic probably has more to do with his PR people setting it all up as a publicity stunt, or it's some one-off occasion where someone close to him influenced him to do good for their own personal cause, rather than something within Trump that might have caused him to feel anything for his fellow human beings.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Isn't there some old adage about how even Hitler was nice to his dog?

Like "yeah, ok, he may have done some really nice things for people, but he's still a racist piece of poo poo"

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InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan
it's probably all bullshit from one of his books.
like the time trump saved a dog from an oncoming truck and only charged it the cost of the dry cleaning!*
also if you want me to think trump is a philanthropist you better do the math for me and prove he's given more than he's admitted to stealing from cancer charities.

*"trump art of the deal"

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