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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race? This poll is closed. |
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| R. Allin-Khan |
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6 | 1.60% |
| R. Burgon |
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80 | 21.33% |
| D. Butler |
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72 | 19.20% |
| A. Rayner |
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35 | 9.33% |
| I. Murray |
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5 | 1.33% |
| P. Flaps |
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177 | 47.20% |
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We have a stock of hand sanitiser at work, but the cleaners remove it from our desks every night because of the new clear desk policy. Make a loving exception.
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Mar 12, 2020 22:42
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I have a sneaking feeling that speedrunning Coronavirus through the population so that we're back up and running before the rest of Europe is the kind of idea that would appeal to Dominic Cummings. Probably not true, but it would probably explain the aggressive indifference the government sees to be showing to this. Losing a few hundred thousand mostly economically inactive pensioners with expensive medical needs is probably a bonus for him.
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Mar 12, 2020 22:43
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The University I work at is going to be making a big update about coronavirus tomorrow, but I can't imagine they'll be doing anything particularly decisive. They won't close down the whole campus without it being mandated by the government and even if they go to remote teaching rumours are that they'll probably keep a few key places open. Like the Library... which is where I work... 
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Mar 12, 2020 22:45
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Maltloaf posted:This is why I am incredibly angry at any talk of protecting "the economy" when it's just a shorthand for "the thing that makes number go up". Nobody gives a poo poo about your loving number and how it's big enough that you can piss it away on toys while everyone else grinds through life. We care about our parents, our friends etc. Number won't do jack for anyone. What the gently caress does it actually take to make these people see sense? also the number already went down
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Mar 12, 2020 22:52
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XMNN posted:also the number already went down And yet nothing of value was lost.
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Mar 12, 2020 22:53
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Darth Walrus posted:https://twitter.com/edconwaysky/status/1238177127951982594?s=21 What, no Spanish Armada?
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Mar 12, 2020 23:07
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They didn't have the stock market then, it was invented by the dutch in the 17th century.
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Mar 12, 2020 23:11
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OwlFancier posted:Happy to report that they've retasked some of the cleaners at work to clean surfaces people are in contact with. stev posted:We have a stock of hand sanitiser at work, but the cleaners remove it from our desks every night because of the new clear desk policy. 
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Mar 12, 2020 23:14
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drat. That would have been a swing to see. "Oh no, we're going to be conquered by Spain! Sell, sell! .... wait no, we're going to become the biggest empire in history, buy, buy!"
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Mar 12, 2020 23:15
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Guavanaut posted:This seems aggressively poor. Like how much would it cost to throw a tiny bit of washing soda or carbolic acid (or even something from the 20th century onwards) in there like people have known was the right thing to do since germ theory was some new age weirdness coming out of France? It's not a cost thing, it's because of health and safety  They're not allowed to use any cleaning products in customer facing areas during the day.
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Mar 12, 2020 23:16
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Mar 12, 2020 23:17
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They've got a million different types of cleaner out the back, including bleach that'll take your skin off, but the best you're allowed is maybe dilute dettol and you can't let it out of your sight in case a kid eats it or something. They'll likely do a proper clean each evening but shops are filthy places.
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Mar 12, 2020 23:18
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One might think that the normal rules could be changed during a pandemic. Like yeah, health and safety rules are usually written in workers' blood, but they also usually presume normal social conditions.
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Mar 12, 2020 23:22
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Oh it's not for the worker's benefit, they're quite happy to clean properly, it's because the stores don't want to be liable if someone gets a rash or something. Which is more provable than someone getting coronavirus.
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Mar 12, 2020 23:23
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Can't they do a Boris Johnson and put up a sign saying "if you get a rash, go on the internet"?
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Mar 12, 2020 23:25
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https://twitter.com/standardsport/status/1238228081984372736 Premier League fixtures still going ahead this weekend though
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Mar 12, 2020 23:28
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https://twitter.com/NCStinn/status/1235238858020843522
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Mar 12, 2020 23:30
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UK has significantly less ventilators per person than basically any other country in europe. we're 29th out of 34 or something. loving hell
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Mar 12, 2020 23:47
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:https://twitter.com/standardsport/status/1238228081984372736 Oh good! They train right down the road from me! Their team doctor comes to my pharmacy all the time! Joy. Hertfordshire is a plague pit rn, don't come here
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Mar 12, 2020 23:48
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HopperUK posted:Oh good! They train right down the road from me! Their team doctor comes to my pharmacy all the time! Joy. Hertfordshire is a plague pit rn, don't come here Hertfordshire has the most infections of any local authority, doesn't it?
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Mar 12, 2020 23:52
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Thanks to a steady diet of BBC, my housemate is firmly of the belief that delaying any useful measures must be the right decision and had no idea of, for example, Vietnam quarantining whole neighbourhoods, so if you were wondering how the government was going to spin mass chaos and death, the answer is that it will unfortunately just be inevitable and there was really nothing we could have done to stop it. Please don't quote that first part out of context, thank you.
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Mar 12, 2020 23:54
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On the plus side, all of these big names testing positive suggests to me that we literally all have it. That's a good thing! It means the mortality rate could be way lower than we think because we're only seeing a small percentage of cases, most of them the worst hit.
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Mar 13, 2020 00:00
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OwlFancier posted:Oh it's not for the worker's benefit, they're quite happy to clean properly, it's because the stores don't want to be liable if someone gets a rash or something. I did some volunteer work in an After School Club for 7-11 year olds a few years ago. If one of them cut themselves - paper cut or whatever, we weren't allowed to stick a plaster on the cut to stop the blood, which naturally I only discovered was a rule after I washed a kid's hand under a tap, dried it and stuck a plaster on the cut.
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Mar 13, 2020 00:01
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Alternatively the nonce societies are the primary transmission vectors.
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Mar 13, 2020 00:01
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I did some volunteer work in an After School Club for 7-11 year olds a few years ago. If one of them cut themselves - paper cut or whatever, we weren't allowed to stick a plaster on the cut to stop the blood, which naturally I only discovered was a rule after I washed a kid's hand under a tap, dried it and stuck a plaster on the cut. Ah yes standard first aid procedure, if you're not the designated first aider they have to fend for themselves (I quite often cut chunks out of my fingers with the box openers)
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Mar 13, 2020 00:02
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ThomasPaine posted:On the plus side, all of these big names testing positive suggests to me that we literally all have it. That's a good thing! It means the mortality rate could be way lower than we think because we're only seeing a small reaction or cases, most of them the worst hit. I spoke to my sister today. She works in a hospital away from any reported outbreaks, and says that it's an open secret that they've been getting cases for the past couple of days, but are waiting on confirmations. Not people phoning 111 because they have a cough, but people admitted with serious respiratory distress. Apparently this isn't an outlier, a lot of hospitals are starting to see the same. We all have it, and the official infection rate is going off a ski-jump over the weekend.
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Mar 13, 2020 00:08
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Hertfordshire has the most infections of any local authority, doesn't it? Yeah, think so. One of the earliest deaths was in Watford.
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Mar 13, 2020 00:15
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Friend of mine works for a pension company (that pays pensions out to former public sector workers) and they're doing emergency planning for how they will keep paying pensions if all the staff are off sick. Not sure that 'payroll' is a function that can be done from home easily!
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Mar 13, 2020 00:15
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Forgive my ignorance but... why? They surely don't have a big sack of gold they have to hand out to people? Isn't it electronic? Particularly for pensions, does someone have to keep pressing the button to make the pension money come out of the tube?
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Mar 13, 2020 00:17
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMO-QzFiTBY&t=159s
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Mar 13, 2020 00:18
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Yeah I mean like I work for a company that literally makes medicine to keep people alive, dispensed same day as the prescription. If our workforce cannot physically come into work to make the drugs, hundreds of already sick people go to hospital and a bad situation gets worse. HR and payroll jobs are about the least worrying "industry" I can think of that might be affected.
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Mar 13, 2020 00:21
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i think we have the worst response so far in the world right? i dont think anyone else is just planning to let the virus kill everyone as fast as possible the USA is way ahead of us, even. and has 10x as many ventilators per capita
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Mar 13, 2020 00:22
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Yeah but they're going to charge people $50k to use them, that has to be worth a few minus points.
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Mar 13, 2020 00:29
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its gonna be extremely cold comfort when bojo resigns after 1 year and 3 million dead
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Mar 13, 2020 00:31
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https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1238240502505508867 hopefully they cancel everything, decision to be made tomorrow morning
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Mar 13, 2020 00:32
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Guavanaut posted:Yeah but they're going to charge people $50k to use them, that has to be worth a few minus points.
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Mar 13, 2020 00:35
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God drat all those old tories must be feeling betrayed right now, thoroughly betrayed. If only someone had warned them.
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Mar 13, 2020 00:35
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OwlFancier posted:Forgive my ignorance but... why? I don't know all the ins and outs of it. But if payrolls don't function, whether pensions or earnings, that's another load of people not going to be able to pay bills and in the financial poo poo. I'm just saying 'pensions' because that's what my friend does. Marmaduke! posted:Yeah I mean like I work for a company that literally makes medicine to keep people alive, dispensed same day as the prescription. If our workforce cannot physically come into work to make the drugs, hundreds of already sick people go to hospital and a bad situation gets worse. HR and payroll jobs are about the least worrying "industry" I can think of that might be affected. Well obviously that's most immediately important.
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Mar 13, 2020 00:36
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ThomasPaine posted:God drat all those old tories must be feeling betrayed right now, thoroughly betrayed. If only someone had warned them. They're probably just whingeing about the millenials causing it by rubbing avocado all over each other.
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Mar 13, 2020 00:39
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Something that came up in a cybersecurity class this week was that they're worried about it being a security problem. Having to open up more holes in the network or more people taking the opportunity to clicking on phishing.msg or the people who deal with that being sick. I mean, what if someone took the opportunity to hack into the pension company and give pensions to everybody?
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