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A bass signal isn't louder or more powerful than a guitar signal. This is especially evident now that we have active 8 string guitars. Add to that that a guitar signal is much more likely to be boosted. What this means is that plugging a bass into your guitar amps is cool and good and not dangerous. What you shouldn't do is use a guitar cab with a bass amp at high volume, since bass frequencies require a lot more power, provided by the bass amps, which make the inferior guitar cabs break. If you play loud as gently caress basically.
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Mar 12, 2020 21:36
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TBH when I got my bass I just got a $45 Peavy amp from a pawn shop, it's only like 10 watts but it's loud as poo poo (especially cause I don't have a compressor pedal) and the overdrive actually sounds decent for something so small and cheap
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Mar 12, 2020 21:52
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I'm always uncertain how to take advice because it does seem to come from people rocking out on electric at billion-decibel levels, whereas I'm playing soft jingly snowfall fingerstyle acoustic. I don't think I could damage an amp unless I kicked it.
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Mar 12, 2020 21:54
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Yeah I think that’s the guitar world’s version of an old wives’ tale at this point. Of course I play my guitar through my bass amp so what do I know?
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Mar 12, 2020 22:09
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I first played my bass through a Squier practice amp, the kind that was bundled with my Strat back in 2009 when I bought it. I could crank it up to deafening levels but it sounded pretty bad at all levels.
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Mar 12, 2020 22:15
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BonHair posted:What you shouldn't do is use a guitar cab with a bass amp at high volume, since bass frequencies require a lot more power, provided by the bass amps, which make the inferior guitar cabs break. If you play loud as gently caress basically. yeah this 200w is on the low end of bass amp output whereas that's absurdly high for a guitar amp. guitar speakers aren't designed to handle that somehow that got mangled into people thinking a bass through a guitar amp will somehow mess things up. the guitar amp isn't somehow magically putting out more signal than it's designed for if you plug a bass into it Mr. Humalong posted:Yeah I think that’s the guitar world’s version of an old wives’ tale at this point. guitarists as a collective are really stupid and hold onto myths forever. i got banned from r/guitar for pointing this out Wark Say posted:Something dumb just occurred to me: Why the gently caress are some tone-chasers obsessed with Metallica and their 80's guitar tone? Like it's probably a combination of bias (I don't much care about Metallica outside of "Dyers' Eve", my favorite song of them) and a little bit of insomnia talking here, but wasn't their tone decidedly mundane? tbf a mesa dialed in that way does sound pretty good in person. they just suck at recording it the best variation on that is the mark iii/dual caliber like mid-90s corrosion of conformity or today is the day. the latter is especially disgusting The Muppets On PCP fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Mar 12, 2020 |
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Mar 12, 2020 22:44
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what other guitar myths are out there? A lot of stuff seems to be cultural or about individual players like Hendrix or Clapton quotes.
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Mar 12, 2020 22:46
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guitar into bass amp sounds incredible for cleans though, highly recommend. pretty much the only thing a nice big solid state bass head can't do well is amp overdrive in the style of a tube amp (solid state clipping sound wack), they're amazing pedal platforms for stacked gain before the amp. also yeah do not use a bass head (or an active bass tbh) with a guitar cab, the speaker cones flex differently and they will be unhappy being driven by a bass head.
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Mar 12, 2020 22:51
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creamcorn posted:guitar into bass amp sounds incredible for cleans though, highly recommend. Hell yes. I played in a two guitar, drums, no bassist band for a while, and I handled the clean low end with a cheap little solid state Crate amp while the other guy played the high stuff. Constantly had people asking me after the shows what was going on with my rig because it sounded like we actually had a bass player
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Mar 12, 2020 22:56
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The Muppets On PCP posted:tbf a mesa dialed in that way does sound pretty good in person. they just suck at recording it  except your own; please wear ear plugs. 
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Mar 12, 2020 22:57
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I play bass through my hot rod deluxe input 2 all day. Clean channel sounds real good
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Mar 12, 2020 23:24
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Wark Say posted:Just do the irresponsible thing: We played a gig last year with these mad bastards https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ouPGGLI6Q And the guitarist had an original Bassman, it was just awesome sounding
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Mar 12, 2020 23:50
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"Get a Bassman!"
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peter gabriel posted:We played a gig last year with these mad bastards YES I LOVE FOCUS
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Mar 12, 2020 23:52
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well why not posted:what other guitar myths are out there? A lot of stuff seems to be cultural or about individual players like Hendrix or Clapton quotes. String gauge and tonewood are both arguable
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Mar 13, 2020 00:16
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Lester Shy posted:Hell yes. I played in a two guitar, drums, no bassist band for a while, and I handled the clean low end with a cheap little solid state Crate amp while the other guy played the high stuff. Constantly had people asking me after the shows what was going on with my rig because it sounded like we actually had a bass player It worked for sleater Kinney why not anyone, although I don't think corin used a bass amp just a detuned guitar
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Mar 13, 2020 00:55
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Brawnfire posted:YES I LOVE FOCUS They were amazing and really nice guys too, I was grinning all night. I really like soundchecks and the chance to chill with new folk and they were great, real friendly. They still kick rear end too, proper good
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Mar 13, 2020 01:00
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The THR has a bass setting but I don't have a bass. I bet it is good tho.
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Mar 13, 2020 02:09
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I want a boss katana but for bass. Basically a cheap rear end amp with a bunch of ampeg models and effects
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Mar 13, 2020 02:16
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Zaphod42 posted:String gauge and tonewood are both arguable always get a kick out of when people get great tone out of a shovel with pickups bolted on.
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Mar 13, 2020 02:17
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well why not posted:always get a kick out of when people get great tone out of a shovel with pickups bolted on. They obviously had the right wood for the handle.
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Mar 13, 2020 02:38
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They have tone in spades.
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Mar 13, 2020 02:44
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it's a 100% mahogany shovel handle with sheet steel that's been folded one hundred times by one of our master builders with 30 years experience. it can be yours for only $2499.99
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Mar 13, 2020 02:53
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I dig it
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Mar 13, 2020 03:07
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Tldr: acoustic basses are for hair metal bands going “unplugged” and Lilith Fair dads who find Pat Metheny “too edgy”
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Mar 13, 2020 03:26
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Ok Comboomer posted:Tldr: acoustic basses are for hair metal bands going “unplugged” and Lilith Fair dads who find Pat Metheny “too edgy” Also Violent Femmes!
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Mar 13, 2020 03:40
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Baron von Eevl posted:Also Violent Femmes! exception that proves the rule
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Mar 13, 2020 04:02
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Baron von Eevl posted:Also Violent Femmes! Brian Ritchie's bass is an Ernie Ball Earthwood acoustic. They are monstrously huge and probably the exception to acoustic basses being meh.
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Mar 13, 2020 04:39
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My custom pickups shipped today! ETA next Tuesday.
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Mar 13, 2020 05:10
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Trying to replace the pots and electronics and my Firefly 338 may have been a big mistake. Those F holes were not designed for full sized pots, much less push-poll pots and the wiring harness I have does not have any slack.
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BeastOfExmoor posted:Trying to replace the pots and electronics and my Firefly 338 may have been a big mistake. Those F holes were not designed for full sized pots, much less push-poll pots and the wiring harness I have does not have any slack. You *can* get full-sized pots in there (having done it two weekends ago) but it was a real PITA, and I can't imagine getting push-pulls in there. The way I got the normal full sized in was standing them up like they would be when mounted and slightly tipping the non-lug side so it would go under the wood, moving the pot horizontally until the shaft touched the side, and then there was enough room for it to go down inside the body. Will definitely be making sure I get minis for any other 338 style in the future though. At least I learned enough from building my 338 kit a couple years ago to get the whole fishing the pots / jack through the holes with wire thing manageable this time.
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BeastOfExmoor posted:Trying to replace the pots and electronics and my Firefly 338 may have been a big mistake. Those F holes were not designed for full sized pots, much less push-poll pots and the wiring harness I have does not have any slack. When my luthier upgraded the pots and other wiring on my Epiphone Casino, I think he maybe mentioned doing it through the pickup cavity. I might be mistaken though.
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Mar 13, 2020 15:17
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Casinos are fully hollow while 335s and the like have a solid center block f-holes are the only way in.
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Mar 13, 2020 15:36
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Some 335s have a short centre block so it can be done, 333s have a backplate and a lot of Gretch's have turrets rather than blocks - It's a real crapshoot. I remember a while back reading a thread off a luthier who used shoe laces tied to the pots to do it, it had loads of good pics, I'm trying to find it
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I saw a post on one of the Firefly FB groups where some dude just cut a whole on the back of his 338 to work on it, then patched it with duct tape
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~lUtHiEr~
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peter gabriel posted:Some 335s have a short centre block so it can be done, 333s have a backplate and a lot of Gretch's have turrets rather than blocks - It's a real crapshoot. I used 22 gauge wire. Strip about 2" tin it, then you can wrap around the shaft, through the slot, and around again and solder it to itself. For the jack, go through the jack then tie the end to a nut bigger than the inner shaft diameter. The first time I did it, I used dental floss. It worked on some of the pots! 
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Simone Poodoin posted:I saw a post on one of the Firefly FB groups where some dude just cut a whole on the back of his 338 to work on it, then patched it with duct tape I saw a post about "cutting an access hatch on a semi-hollow" and I went 
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Surgical or aquarium tubing that fits snugly over the pot shaft is another option - depends on the pot type and manufacturer but 3/8" or 1/4" diameter tubing is usually about right. You don't have to fiddle with tying knots or string getting tangled and unlike string you can push it instead of just pulling it.
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Lumpy posted:You *can* get full-sized pots in there (having done it two weekends ago) but it was a real PITA, and I can't imagine getting push-pulls in there. The way I got the normal full sized in was standing them up like they would be when mounted and slightly tipping the non-lug side so it would go under the wood, moving the pot horizontally until the shaft touched the side, and then there was enough room for it to go down inside the body. Will definitely be making sure I get minis for any other 338 style in the future though. The push-pull pots fit. They're actually only about as hard as the normal full pots, surprisingly. I think my main issue now is that my Epiphone harness was obviously wired with the intention of being installed in an SG/LP from the back so there's almost zero slack between the pots and I'm not even certain I have enough wire to reach the output jack as is. I'm going to wait until I have some more patience and a quiet house to try again. Lawen posted:Surgical or aquarium tubing that fits snugly over the pot shaft is another option - depends on the pot type and manufacturer but 3/8" or 1/4" diameter tubing is usually about right. You don't have to fiddle with tying knots or string getting tangled and unlike string you can push it instead of just pulling it. Yea, I heard about this tip before I started, fortunately. I went with surgical tubing. I should've bought more, but it does work very well. The output jack has been the hardest, but I threaded the tub through the jack and tied a knot which worked well enough. I had to have enough tubing on the inside to remove the tubing once I got it mounted though. Kinda wishing I'd just sprang for the Harley Benton semi-hollow which already has split coiled pickups installed.
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The bass thread here in ML says that playing a bass through a guitar amp will blow it out in the first post. I believe y'all when you say it won't, but it'd be cool to not spread misinformation
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