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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race?
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R. Allin-Khan 6 1.60%
R. Burgon 80 21.33%
D. Butler 72 19.20%
A. Rayner 35 9.33%
I. Murray 5 1.33%
P. Flaps 177 47.20%
Total: 375 votes
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Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


My gym's concession to coronavirus is to make us sign a sheet instead of using thumbprints to get in before manhandling a bunch of sweaty equipment.

Guavanaut posted:

Tesco trip report: No TP, no pasta, no cooking oil, no bleach. But they did have frozen mushrooms!
Breaking from Home Bargains: there is only a single pot noodle left, and monster munch supplies are down to roast beef.

hemale in pain posted:

why do we want to avoid a second wave? it seems like a good thing to have people infected now and then some infected later rather than EVERYONE getting infected at the same time.
A cynic might think this "second wave" thing is just a bit of bullshit to justify our do nothing & let 'em die herd immunity strat :thunk:

PS who the hell says beef is strictly savoury: maple glazed brisket is good, the sauces & pickles on a burger are nicely sweet, sweet onions are the best onions, and there's places near me that do donut burgers & waffle burgers that are far more delicious than they have any reasonable business being.

Finding a good bun is the hardest part of getting your burg on at home though. Honestly bagels are probably the best shout from average corner supermarkets.

E: 81 people died of flu in Iran this past winter, compared to 611 from coronavirus so far

Borrovan fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Mar 14, 2020

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XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

bu... bu... but Brexit???

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe
Just went to Rochester, high street seemed normal if relatively quiet, but then there was an older woman who'd collapsed in the doorway of a Holland and Barrett and an ambulance zoomed up and took her away. In all likelihood just a fall, but my anxiety levels shot through the roof and we came straight home. The guy in the vape shop was bug-eyed and talking about his cousin in the SAS (lol) who told him we're getting locked down in 3 days and not to drink tap water. I'm not usually a particularly anxious person but gently caress, I think I gotta take a break from reading/listening to the news.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

XMNN posted:

bu... bu... but Brexit???
More like butt Brexit :butt:

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
What's a good not too expensive bidet toilet seat I fancy getting one and if anyone is going to recommend a good poo poo cleaner it's s goon

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe

Jose posted:

What's a good not too expensive bidet toilet seat I fancy getting one and if anyone is going to recommend a good poo poo cleaner it's s goon

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aizhy-Sprayer-Stainless-Shattaf-49-inch/dp/B07BLS2HMD/

these are the ones I always used to use abroad - works a treat and is apparently easy to install

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I'd prefer an actual seat so I don't hungoverly spray water everywhere

c0burn
Sep 2, 2003

The KKKing

Bardeh posted:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aizhy-Sprayer-Stainless-Shattaf-49-inch/dp/B07BLS2HMD/

these are the ones I always used to use abroad - works a treat and is apparently easy to install

Shat-af

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
After surviving 10 hurricanes Jose drowns himself in his flat after leaving the rear end hose on.

Jose posted:

What's a good not too expensive bidet toilet seat I fancy getting one and if anyone is going to recommend a good poo poo cleaner it's s goon
Flory do good bidet seats but I haven't got one fitted in my current (terrible) bathroom yet. They run from £60 for a basic beans blaster to £280 for a top of the line butt warmer, and they just screw on the ceramic replacing the whole seat.

Oscar Romeo Romeo
Apr 16, 2010

I dropped by Tesco to pick up a few things on the way home from visiting a friend and it appears the panic buying is in full apocalypse mode now.

Bardeh posted:

Just went to Rochester, high street seemed normal if relatively quiet, but then there was an older woman who'd collapsed in the doorway of a Holland and Barrett and an ambulance zoomed up and took her away. In all likelihood just a fall, but my anxiety levels shot through the roof and we came straight home. The guy in the vape shop was bug-eyed and talking about his cousin in the SAS (lol) who told him we're getting locked down in 3 days and not to drink tap water. I'm not usually a particularly anxious person but gently caress, I think I gotta take a break from reading/listening to the news.

Sounds like a normal day in Rochester to be honest.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Guavanaut posted:

After surviving 10 hurricanes Jose drowns himself in his flat after leaving the rear end hose on.

Joses' Final Destination

Also reporting toilet paper shortages in supermarkets in Bristol. Jokes on them though, I've taken to pooping at work so much to avoid doing other work that I've had a decent amount for months and don't need to restock.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Communist Thoughts posted:

Shut up Coronamoaner

I misread this as coronamancer at first (the new william gibson plague novel)

Borrovan posted:

My gym's concession to coronavirus is to make us sign a sheet instead of using thumbprints to get in before manhandling a bunch of sweaty equipment.

Breaking from Home Bargains: there is only a single pot noodle left, and monster munch supplies are down to roast beef.

A cynic might think this "second wave" thing is just a bit of bullshit to justify our do nothing & let 'em die herd immunity strat :thunk:

PS who the hell says beef is strictly savoury: maple glazed brisket is good, the sauces & pickles on a burger are nicely sweet, sweet onions are the best onions, and there's places near me that do donut burgers & waffle burgers that are far more delicious than they have any reasonable business being.

Finding a good bun is the hardest part of getting your burg on at home though. Honestly bagels are probably the best shout from average corner supermarkets.

E: 81 people died of flu in Iran this past winter, compared to 611 from coronavirus so far

Honestly making your own buns is pretty easy, and you don't even need to make a bunch at once, if anyone is interested.

Jose posted:

I'd prefer an actual seat so I don't hungoverly spray water everywhere

Not sure what you consider expensive but these FLORYs seem to review well. The Japanese Totos are the gold standard but they're definitely not cheap.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=bidet&rh=n%3A79903031%2Cn%3A1938753031&dc&qid=1584204164&rnid=1642204031&ref=sr_nr_n_8

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

mediaphage posted:

The Japanese Totos are the gold standard
I bless the rains down my rear end and rear.

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Jose posted:

Why not buy a cheaper cut more traditionally used for burgers than ribeye?

Because after trying every cut, well picked marbled ribeye gives the best consistent results for the least effort (don't have to worry about ratios or buying multiple things and asda sells 3 ribeye steaks for £10) since I made burgers for 2 burgers each for 5 people last night that were as good as anything I can get out at a restaurant where a single burger would be £8 it ends up nearly 8x cheaper which honestly is good enough for me.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
I was telling my assistant at the start of the week that there was going to be a tipping point where everyone switched from complacency to panic and he should think about stocking up on the basics before the shelves got cleared. He politely agreed with me while not quite rolling his eyes lol.

I didn't think the tipping point would arrive quite this quickly though!

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Guavanaut posted:

I bless the rains down my rear end and rear.

:golfclap:

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I ordered a bidet I will update the thread on having my arse blasted clean tomorrow :thumbsup:

Oscar Romeo Romeo
Apr 16, 2010

I looked into having those swanky Japanese toilet seats installed. Then I saw the prices.

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

I've seen that ibuprofen is both good and should be used and bad and should be avoided for treating fever?

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Bardeh posted:

Just went to Rochester, high street seemed normal if relatively quiet, but then there was an older woman who'd collapsed in the doorway of a Holland and Barrett and an ambulance zoomed up and took her away. In all likelihood just a fall, but my anxiety levels shot through the roof and we came straight home. The guy in the vape shop was bug-eyed and talking about his cousin in the SAS (lol) who told him we're getting locked down in 3 days and not to drink tap water. I'm not usually a particularly anxious person but gently caress, I think I gotta take a break from reading/listening to the news.

What is the actual likelihood of tap water becoming a vector of contagion?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It's an anti inflammatory so probably not the ideal thing for actually helping with your temperature, I think the general advice is to take both ibuprofen and paracetamol as they work in different ways.

kyojin
Jun 15, 2005

I MASHED THE KEYS AND LOOK WHAT I MADE

Jedit posted:

I'm 45, immunocompromised and am so far as I know still the world record holder for most severe loss of lung capacity in a self-admitted patient. This should make you feel better.

Not really, now I'm worried about you too!

Seriously though thanks, for this and the subsequent conversation around it. I went to the park and zigzagged around to keep my distance from people (tbh I'd do this anyway), and now I feel a lot better so I guess I recommend that to anyone getting cabin fever.



XMNN posted:

I sort of want to believe that if it gets really bad (to the point where no one over 40 gets into an ICU and they're having to dig mass graves or what have you) and it is noticeably worse here than other places, that even the British public won't be able to forgive and forget

I'm not a behavioural scientist but I'd imagine that if it is noticeably worse here than elsewhere because the government did nothing they will be literally dragged out of power. I don't think people are really equipped to face down a six figure death toll and just carry on playing candy crush on the tube. I know I'm certainly not.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
The utter apathy of the British public can never be underestimated imo.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
On the bright side, just imagine if Labour had been elected and they were sincerely trying to do a socialism, then all this poo poo happened instead.

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib

ThomasPaine posted:

What is the actual likelihood of tap water becoming a vector of contagion?

I'd say basically nil at the moment, but given the talk about herd immunity I wouldn't be surprised if the next stage of our containment plan involves everyone with a fever reporting to the local waterworks for gargling duty.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Pistol_Pete posted:

On the bright side, just imagine if Labour had been elected and they were sincerely trying to do a socialism, then all this poo poo happened instead.

I mean fewer people would be dying so it would probably be better.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


kecske posted:

I've seen that ibuprofen is both good and should be used and bad and should be avoided for treating fever?

Afaik it's fine and drops fevers too
Paracetamol is better for fevers but I find ibus are better at making you feel better.

Last night I got a real bad fever and the shakes but took some branded neurofen (I usually get generic) and night nurse (has that delicious dxm in it) and that handled the situation very nicely.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


thespaceinvader posted:

I mean fewer people would be dying so it would probably be better.

So far labour aren't saying poo poo. Apart from in a cowardly snide guardian way. gently caress them. gently caress the SNP sturgeon just tweeted that theyr not doing anything.
gently caress the whole establishment this blood is on their hands.
The gov just had to throw them a GCSE science phrase like herd immunity to discuss for a week and theyve let it all slide.

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


Jose posted:

I ordered a bidet I will update the thread on having my arse blasted clean tomorrow :thumbsup:

but when does the bidet arrive?

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Mebh posted:

Because after trying every cut, well picked marbled ribeye gives the best consistent results for the least effort (don't have to worry about ratios or buying multiple things and asda sells 3 ribeye steaks for £10) since I made burgers for 2 burgers each for 5 people last night that were as good as anything I can get out at a restaurant where a single burger would be £8 it ends up nearly 8x cheaper which honestly is good enough for me.

how small are your burgers if you're getting 3 1/3 per 8oz ribeye

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

thespaceinvader posted:

I mean fewer people would be dying so it would probably be better.

Nah the press would have spent all of Christmas and January getting people whipped up in fear about Stalinist lockdowns and purges from the Red Guard and suddenly there's actually a need to close things down and obey the government? The disobedience and racist violence would be massive, old people holding public handshaking rallies to show they aren't afraid, it would absolutely be worse and then Labour is blamed for the NHS collapsing.

Communist Thoughts posted:

So far labour aren't saying poo poo. Apart from in a cowardly snide guardian way. gently caress them. gently caress the SNP sturgeon just tweeted that theyr not doing anything.
gently caress the whole establishment this blood is on their hands.
The gov just had to throw them a GCSE science phrase like herd immunity to discuss for a week and theyve let it all slide.

Corbyn is actually doing all right on it, it's just he's been completely ignored since the election and the leadership candidates are being crap on it so there's almost no air time to Labour in general.

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

Melissa McCarthyism posted:

What's the guidance for people stuck in another country? My mate and his wife are now stranded in Poland.

Could they hire a car and drive back, or are road borders shut too? Assuming they want to come back atm.

Prince John
Jun 20, 2006

Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?

hemale in pain posted:

why do we want to avoid a second wave? it seems like a good thing to have people infected now and then some infected later rather than EVERYONE getting infected at the same time.

The reason given is that if the first wave peaks when predicted, the second wave will arrive in winter, when the NHS is least able to cope. The second wave of the Spanish flu was also much more deadly than the first, although I've not seen any evidence either way to suggest whether there's reason to think the same will be true with COVID-19.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/1238874769346433026

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

Angrymog posted:

Could they hire a car and drive back, or are road borders shut too? Assuming they want to come back atm.
https://twitter.com/PremierRP_en/status/1238545675194961920
Unclear to me what exactly "border controls" means but if they want to leave they might want to do it pretty sharpish. Flights from the country were already being cancelled yesterday. Also bear in mind that countries between Poland and the UK might also start putting up border controls or closing their borders to non-residents, so even if they can leave Poland they might not be able to make it home.

e:

Melissa McCarthyism posted:

They've since made their way to the airport, queued for 2 and half hrs and spoke to Ryanair reps. Apparently Ryanair is doing a rescue flight that will take them to Stansted. Then they're flying to Dublin and getting the coach back to Belfast.

If they had been any later they could have been stuck there for at least a few weeks.
Glad that they're going to make it out in time. I imagine there are a lot of people who either are or shortly will be stuck on their holidays.

big scary monsters fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Mar 14, 2020

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

Communist Thoughts posted:

So far labour aren't saying poo poo. Apart from in a cowardly snide guardian way.

"We have paused all party campaigning and local meetings. The Electoral Commission called for the local elections scheduled for 7 May to be postponed, and we welcome the government's agreement to do this.

Instead of canvassing and campaigning, I would like Labour members to get involved in supporting vulnerable people in our communities – ensuring this is done safely and on the basis of public health advice...

Please speak to your friends and family about what you can do, and look online and social media for organisations already organising volunteer groups.

... we are asking the government to publish its scientific modelling and explain transparently the conclusions it has drawn. ...

We also believe the government must take more comprehensive steps to ensure insecure, self-employed and unprotected workers are not forced to choose between health and hardship, and are able to take time off work and self-isolate if necessary, in the interests of us all.'

Melissa McCarthyism
Jan 18, 2007

Angrymog posted:

Could they hire a car and drive back, or are road borders shut too? Assuming they want to come back atm.

They've since made their way to the airport, queued for 2 and half hrs and spoke to Ryanair reps. Apparently Ryanair is doing a rescue flight that will take them to Stansted. Then they're flying to Dublin and getting the coach back to Belfast.

If they had been any later they could have been stuck there for at least a few weeks.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Labour are not visibly saying poo poo, but is that because they're not saying anything, or is it because nobody would even come close to reporting it even if they did?

A mystery for the ages.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

thespaceinvader posted:

Labour are not visibly saying poo poo, but is that because they're not saying anything, or is it because nobody would even come close to reporting it even if they did?

A mystery for the ages.

Look two posts up. Corbyn put that on his Facebook and Twitter. There's also this:

https://twitter.com/jessbrammar/status/1238835341521571841?s=21

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thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Darth Walrus posted:

Look two posts up. Corbyn put that on his Facebook and Twitter. There's also this:

https://twitter.com/jessbrammar/status/1238835341521571841?s=21

I'm well aware of what Corbyn said, I got the email, I was just pointing out that if all you're looking at is the papers and the Beeb, of course they're not (apparently) saying poo poo.

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