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Simone Poodoin posted:Is there any risk in having your NAS be on 8 hours per day and go to sleep the rest of the day? Would the hdds degrade quicker or something? spinning up is hard on the HDD and it's generally considered better to leave it spinning all the time if you can spare the power.
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ILikeVoltron posted:I've been running the 20.04 ubuntu "beta" for a bit now. It does a install directly on zfs, works out all the boot pool / root pool stuff for you. The latest update to zsysd also does snapshots based on apt installs and a few other neat things. Sadly it's a "desktop" OS, but I've got it running headless on my NAS and have no complaints about it. How old of hardware are you running it on? I had to  my server (E5 V2) a little while back and the 20.04 USB installer wouldn't even loving boot on it.
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IOwnCalculus posted:How old of hardware are you running it on? I had to Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2630 v4 @ 2.20GHz Supermicro X10DRi/X10DRI-T
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Any budget UPS to recommend for my t7810 that’s on its way? My last experience with a ups was a few I picked up on a Black Friday sale in the mid 2000s that went into failure modes at the worst time and wouldn’t stop beeping in the middle of the night. Talk about panicking my wife as I was out of town and she didn’t know what the hell was going on.
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I picked this guy up at Costco for $80ish bucks last fall. It's been solid so far, though I've only had to do simulated power failures. https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/product/ups/pc-battery-backup/cst135xlu/
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Mar 11, 2020 23:57
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The Milkman posted:Holding out for 14's at that price, while sweating profusely as my usage ticks up bit by bit I kinda wish I had waited till 14s went on sale to populate my 1st expansion unit, went with 10s instead as that was what was on sale at the moment.  Should buy me a good amount of time but still hate putting smaller drives than i need to into bays. This is 8x8tb and 5x10tb at this point, and boy does the data keep coming.
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Moey posted:
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Enos Cabell posted:I picked this guy up at Costco for $80ish bucks last fall. It's been solid so far, though I've only had to do simulated power failures. Thanks, I love Costco so that's always a good recc!
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Note that if you have a power supply that uses active Power Factor Correction, you'll want a pure sine wave model and not one that's stepped/approximation of a sine wave. I had a simulated sine wave unit on my ML370 and when the UPS kicked in the box would reboot and act weird. Taking a look at the manual to confirm isn't a bad idea. APC has an article on it here. Pure sine wave UPSes are more expensive but regularly go on sale at places like Fry's and Microcenter. Cyberpower "gaming" branded units as well as anything from them with a model number ending in "PFCLCD" should be good. APC has a comparable line as well but I don't know if they have an easily identifiable model naming convention. Just look at the detail to look for pure sine wave output. H2SO4 fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Mar 12, 2020 |
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Mar 12, 2020 03:16
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We got some breathing room
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You guys have a problem.
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Smashing Link posted:You guys have a problem. Yeah, not enough drive space!
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Mar 12, 2020 03:41
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pre:$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on tank 87T 62T 26T 72% /tank Yeah I'm at the point where even with data growth, I'm more concerned about drive age than capacity.
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Smashing Link posted:You guys have a problem. My only problem is my love for 4K Remuxes. It doesn't help that I'm moving in two months and won't be able to have 1 Gbps AT&T Fiber anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if I fill up another 10 TB before I move. I can't wait until I blow through Comcast's 1 TB cap within the first 3 weeks of the billing cycle. 
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Gay Retard posted:I can't wait until I blow through Comcast's 1 TB cap within the first 3 weeks of the billing cycle. Welcome to my current issue. Should be fixed by fall tho.
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the problem you're all having is that you've named your things as tank like cmon have some originality
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Coming up with thematically appropriate names for storage pools when you name your computers after sentient AIs like I do is hard. 
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Can anyone recommend a very high-quality 3.5" single-drive USB 3 enclosure? I bought this "Yottamaster" brand one off of Amazon, when I plugged it in it sparked and corrupted my drive.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Can anyone recommend a very high-quality 3.5" single-drive USB 3 enclosure? I bought this "Yottamaster" brand one off of Amazon, when I plugged it in it sparked and corrupted my drive. Pretty much every one in this thread has a stack of them, after shucking their Western Digital externals... They don't normally work with other drives, but can be modded to accept any type of drive. https://macandegg.com/2017/04/hack-use-hard-drives-western-digital-book-enclosure/ https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/b4vu7w/using_a_wd_mybook_drive_in_an_easystore_enclosure/ It involves cutting power to a little WinBond chip on the board..
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Wild EEPROM posted:the problem you're all having is that you've named your things as tank like cmon have some originality sudo mv /tank /totallynot69tbofporn
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HalloKitty posted:Pretty much every one in this thread has a stack of them, after shucking their Western Digital externals... After like 1.5 years I ended up throwing the shells away. I figured if one craps out I’d just upgrade to the next size larger anyway and clear out the room in my closet.
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Violator posted:After like 1.5 years I ended up throwing the shells away. I figured if one craps out I’d just upgrade to the next size larger anyway and clear out the room in my closet. I just save one shell for all of my shucked drives. There might be some way they can tell, but the tradeoff of not having to store all those things is worth it unless I hear for sure they can tell the drive doesn't match the enclosure.
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This is from a shucked drive, but I've had issues reassembling the enclosure, I think I broke the tabs. Anyway it would be nice to have something premium/Mac-matching (there used to be stuff like this everywhere.)
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Thermopyle posted:I just save one shell for all of my shucked drives. There might be some way they can tell, but the tradeoff of not having to store all those things is worth it unless I hear for sure they can tell the drive doesn't match the enclosure. For Seagate at least, they track the actual drive serial number and correlate it with the enclosure's serial number. Throw 'em out after testing and an introductory period you deem comfortable if you need the space.
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easystores only have a 2 year warranty anyway so you are a-ok to throw them away after that that's part of the reason they are cheaper than bare drives
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Paul MaudDib posted:spinning up is hard on the HDD and it's generally considered better to leave it spinning all the time if you can spare the power. So do y'all unraid people not let the drives spin down? Mine are set to spin down after 30 mins of inactivity or something.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:So do y'all unraid people not let the drives spin down? Mine are set to spin down after 30 mins of inactivity or something. RAIDZ here, but no, I don't. My usage (2000+ torrents) means they basically wouldn't, anyhow, but the minor savings in power isn't worth the added spin up delay and wear and tear to me.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:So do y'all unraid people not let the drives spin down? Mine are set to spin down after 30 mins of inactivity or something. I do but have not looked into the matter extensively. Keep in mind that these drives have never really been set to stay spinning on any of my previous NASes (OS default behaviour in every case) and I've only had 1 drive failure in 10 years. [Annecdotal data from home enthusiast use]
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Moey posted:Welcome to my current issue. Should be fixed by fall tho. Apparently you can call Comcast's support up and ask them to give you unlimited data for $25, or even lower depending on your market. I'll probably go this route.
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Gay Retard posted:Apparently you can call Comcast's support up and ask them to give you unlimited data for $25, or even lower depending on your market. I'll probably go this route.
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bizwank posted:No need, for the immediate future anyway: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/03/comcast-suspends-data-cap-for-60-days-opens-wi-fi-hotspots-to-everyone/ Awesome, I can finally finish backing up my Plex library. Been working on it for about 6 months now (5 days/month at a time).
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ROJO posted:Awesome, I can finally finish backing up my Plex library. Been working on it for about 6 months now (5 days/month at a time). For mine I just made sure to make drat good use of those courtesy months. Once I went over I went WAY over
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fletcher posted:For mine I just made sure to make drat good use of those courtesy months. Once I went over I went WAY over Yeah I screwed up early on and had an overage at the end of the month (so I couldn't capitalize on it), and have been trying to avoid dipping into my second courtesy month.
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sharkytm posted:Yeah, not enough drive space!
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The first zfs pool I ever made is stupid. It's a Z1 with ten disks. (3 TB WD Red's that are 5+ years old with nary a problem!) I'd like to split that into two pools, so I need to copy all of the data off of it. I don't currently have the space to copy data to, so I need to hook up some more drives. The main problem is that I don't have enough SATA ports, nor the slots to add another HBA. However, I do have USB ports! Is it worth setting up a ZFS pool across some USB disks to protect against data loss during copying the data to/from the drives? This is close to 30TB... I don't remember the details, but I know ZFS doesn't work optimally across USB disks, but will it work well enough? I'm 75% leaning towards just copying the data to the disks without any parity data and leaving it to the gods. Thermopyle fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Mar 16, 2020 |
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Idea thats probably incredibly dumb, why not pick up a couple sas expanders and go off of that? Obviously you would lose some performance but better than relying on usb for anything. Or what about getting an hba with more ports? I assume youre probably using an LSI 8i card, what about a 9206-16e and appropriate cables until youre done
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Those ten disks are a daily roulette wheel of failure and you want to rebuild the array? Are the USB ports 2.0? If so, you'd be better off hooking external disks onto usb3 on a networked computer.
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Thermopyle posted:Is it worth setting up a ZFS pool across some USB disks to protect against data loss during copying the data to/from the drives? Good lord, take a step back before you hurt yourself. This is the annoying part where someone mentions the backups you should already have. In this case if getting new disks I'd temporarily move that data to partitions on regular old hard disks, blow away and create a sane zfs pool on the existing drives, then copy the data back over. That'd be quicker than restoring from a cloud backup somewhere. If you don't have a backup, this is a great opportunity to implement one. If the intention is to replace the 5 year old drives with a new pool then you just play the shell game. Buy USB disks that you intend to shuck, but format them with normal partitions instead of making a pool. Split the data up across the external drives, blow away the old pool and create a new pool with enough old disks to hold the data you want to migrate, copy that data from the USB drives back to that intermediate pool, then shuck and install the new drives and create your final pool with the new drives and migrate the data to its new resting place. You could also skip creating a pool of the old disks and just use them individually but that starts to get annoying. Having a backup makes this a much less scary process so again, if you don't have one then make one before doing anything else.
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Backblaze prototyped their design with USB drives but they went offline too often. Then again that was like 10 years ago.
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Despite devops screaming into the void about all their nonsense, there is a difference between prototype and production environments.
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