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Lord_Hambrose posted:Diamond is letting shops sell this week's books a day early, so if you want to grab them tonight go ahead. Seems like an odd thing to announce so late in the day, but it is a nice thing in this difficult time. Nonessential businesses are being shut down everyday by states.
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Heres to digital.
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Mar 18, 2020 08:23
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I read the full article about the New Warriors team and honestly they all seem like one-off characters designed to be killed off in some kind of mean-spirited joke about zoomers, which I hope isn't the case because I feel like there is a desire for non-binary characters in popular fiction that isn't being very broadly fulfilled. I do not have high hopes for a character named Screentime who gets his power from "experimental internet gas," however.
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Mar 18, 2020 08:37
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How Wonderful! posted:I do not have high hopes for a character named Screentime who gets his power from "experimental internet gas," however. He's powered by the cloud.
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Mar 18, 2020 08:52
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Literally naming your non-binary character Snowflake. Jesus loving Christ.
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Mar 18, 2020 09:18
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When you are naming characters for a team book, you have to think about how it sounds when they're yelling each other's names out in the middle of battle, especially when you're explicitly creating them for a team book. Claremont era X-Men are like the gold standard for this, and I think that's why no one ever refers to Jean Grey as Marvel Girl, X-Men '92 Cyclops jokes aside, "Jean" is a much better name to shout in an emergency than "Marvel Girl." "Quick, attack their flank Safespace" "Get the civilians to safety Snowflake"
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Mar 18, 2020 09:27
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So we have Screentime, Safespace, Snowflake, B-Negative, and Trailblazer. I can't think of another team with that small of a roster (not counting the old New Warriors here) where 3/5 of the member names not only start with the same name but are metrically identical. Both of those features are going to make it difficult to keep the characters mentally separate, and it makes me think these are, again, possibly meant to be short term disposable characters, as if Kibblesmith had that heavy trochee in mind and just came up with a bunch of names in a hurry. Also B-Negative is an atrociously ugly superhero name. I want this to be good because like I said, I would love more non-binary and trans characters in mainstream superhero comics (or mainstream anything) and I like how distinct the characters' body types are, but this looks super hacky. I haven't read anything else by Kibblesmith, is his Loki any good at all?
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Mar 18, 2020 09:54
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It kinda feels like the modern version of the late 80s early 90s trend of black guy with a skateboard to me.
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Mar 18, 2020 09:56
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How Wonderful! posted:
I'm reading Loki on Unlimited and the first three issues are decent. Koi Boy Solo series when?
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Mar 18, 2020 10:01
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Skwirl posted:Koi Boy Solo series when? Extremely on board for this.
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Mar 18, 2020 11:28
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this reeks of reclaiming and I don't think it will go well. Hopefully it goes better than loving spencer's sjws in cap falcon.
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Mar 18, 2020 12:33
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Kibblesmith's Loki was a lot of fun, his Lockjaw series didn't work but at least it was trying to do something different. From everything I've seen of/from him he's at a bare minimum not a garbage person and seems in fact to be a pretty good dude (we have an IRL mutual friend too who has no tolerance for lovely humans so that's in my math) so as not encouraging as this seems I'm willing to at least see what he does with them. It's really cringey on first glance though.
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Mar 18, 2020 12:42
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Kibblesmith is both a funny and sincere guy, so while the names and designs might be off-putting to some, I don’t think you have to worry about him acting in bad faith.
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Mar 18, 2020 13:18
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its like the second coming of the social justice warriors from spencers samcap
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Mar 18, 2020 14:59
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:Kibblesmith is both a funny and sincere guy, so while the names and designs might be off-putting to some, I don’t think you have to worry about him acting in bad faith. His intention is tertiary, unfortunately. I'm non-binary, and I showed that to friends of mine who are also non-binary or genderqueer: the response was universal offense. "Safespace" is cringey, naming your first supposedly high profile non-binary hero "Snowflake" is massively tonedeaf and insulting.
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Mar 18, 2020 16:48
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It's like if X-Statix sucked rear end
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Mar 18, 2020 16:50
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Those names are worth it for how mad it’s going to make comicgaters.
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Mar 18, 2020 16:59
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Maybe it's like a Thunderbolts situation where a bunch of superpowered MAGA villains are pretending to be progressive heroes.
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Mar 18, 2020 17:05
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Open Marriage Night posted:Those names are worth it for how mad it’s going to make comicgaters. I dunno, this seems like a bit too much.
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Mar 18, 2020 17:07
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Open Marriage Night posted:Those names are worth it for how mad it’s going to make comicgaters. Those names seem like something the comicgaters would name parody characters.
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Mar 18, 2020 17:24
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Cabbit posted:His intention is tertiary, unfortunately. I'm non-binary, and I showed that to friends of mine who are also non-binary or genderqueer: the response was universal offense. "Safespace" is cringey, naming your first supposedly high profile non-binary hero "Snowflake" is massively tonedeaf and insulting. Fair enough!
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Mar 18, 2020 17:25
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Open Marriage Night posted:Those names are worth it for how mad it’s going to make comicgaters. pissing off actual queer people to own the chuds hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Mar 18, 2020 17:41
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Someone pointed it out, naming a black non-binary character "Snowflake" is tone-deaf, regardless of the intensions. Nearly every person I've seen talk about this has been, at best, bewilderment as to why. Especially when it's written by two cis white dudes. They need to do a rewrite of this bad
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cartoons123 posted:Someone pointed it out, naming a black non-binary character "Snowflake" is tone-deaf, regardless of the intensions. Nearly every person I've seen talk about this has been, at best, bewilderment as to why. Especially when it's written by two cis white dudes. They need to do a rewrite of this bad Here's my constructive criticism of how to make the pitch better: 
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Mar 18, 2020 17:49
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also worth pointing out, daniel kibblesmith is one of the founders of clickhole
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Mar 18, 2020 17:50
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Maybe it's all a trick to piss off Chuds?
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Mar 18, 2020 17:51
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Rhyno posted:Maybe it's all a trick to piss off Chuds? it's a terrible plan then, since they've just ended up pissing off everyone, including the people they're trying to write for
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Extrano from Englehart's New Guardians was an important landmark as an early gay character in Big Two cape comics, but nobody celebrates him because he was a poorly written cartoonish stereotype who got HIV from an HIVampire. I'll check out Kibblesmith's Loki and keep an open mind but I don't like queer characters to feel like stunt-casting. Lurdiak posted:Here's my constructive criticism of how to make the pitch better: I mean you could fix the pitch by just naming the twins like, Bulwark and Kid Frost or something, and not loving calling a character something as clunky and stupid as B-Negative. I feel like with different names and slightly less condescending language in the press release I'd be like "oh neat, an enby character."
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Those designs are not exactly getting great reactions from POC NBs, even names aside.
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Mar 18, 2020 18:06
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Rhyno posted:Maybe it's all a trick to piss off Chuds? I'm getting real sick of straight white cis dudes jerking themselves off furiously at the thought of making Nazis - the easiest people in the world to get angry - angry while throwing people like me under the bus for chuckles. I think it's infinitely more likely this is well-meaning but completely misguided, in which case sure the intentions are good but maybe ask a single nonbinary person first??? Blockhouse fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Mar 18, 2020 |
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Mar 18, 2020 18:33
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I'm just looking for some reasoning behind this. I want to believe they can't be this tone def but then I remember who the EiC is.
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Blockhouse posted:Who loving cares if it is, honestly Yeah, if they really wanted to piss off the Nazis just hire more queer, trans, NB or PoC creators.
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How Wonderful! posted:I'll check out Kibblesmith's Loki and keep an open mind but I don't like queer characters to feel like stunt-casting. His Loki series was, imo, shaping up to be a worthy successor to Ewing's Agent of Asgard...and then it just sort of ends because Marvel cancelled it after five issues.
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howe_sam posted:His Loki series was, imo, shaping up to be a worthy successor to Ewing's Agent of Asgard...and then it just sort of ends because Marvel cancelled it after five issues. I didn't realize it was canceled so quickly. Why the gently caress do they accept pitches from newish creators for non traditional stories starring niche characters and then not even wait to see how well the first Trade does before poo poo canning them?
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Mar 18, 2020 18:42
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i thought loki was always meant to be a mini
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Also this isn't even Marvel's first nonbinary hero! Loki has effectively been a hero for years and has been established as genderfluid for about the same span of time.
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Blockhouse posted:Who loving cares if it is, honestly just create what you want to create or what you feel will speak to people, do it earnestly, and if you aren't sure about how to handle something, talk to people who belong to that group. i dont give a single solitary poo poo what Race Realist Deadpool thinks and the way people overemphasize making those types mad is what gives them so much of their power to begin with. Nobody would know what half these people were saying or thinking if people didn't quote them on twitter constantly, and even for the ones that do have a fanbase or following, who gives a poo poo? there's nothing you can do about them, even in an ideal world people will always get mad about this kind of stuff. Just make what you want to and let them stew.
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like, vita ayala literally works for marvel and danny apparently couldnt even be bothered to shoot them a dm in the marvel slack to ask their opinion
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another year another infinity stone event https://twitter.com/Newsarama/status/1240339856452202498
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