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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race?
This poll is closed.
R. Allin-Khan 6 1.60%
R. Burgon 80 21.33%
D. Butler 72 19.20%
A. Rayner 35 9.33%
I. Murray 5 1.33%
P. Flaps 177 47.20%
Total: 375 votes
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Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

"Nonproductive cough" sounds like a dystopian performance review

crispix posted:

sound advice

Thanks for this, I'll pass it on.

e:

Shakespeare's Sonnet 135 posted:

Whoever hath her wish, thou hast thy “Will,”
And “Will” to boot, and “Will” in overplus;
More than enough am I that vex thee still,
To thy sweet will making addition thus.
Wilt thou, whose will is large and spacious,
Not once vouchsafe to hide my will in thine?
Shall will in others seem right gracious,
And in my will no fair acceptance shine?
The sea, all water, yet receives rain still,
And in abundance addeth to his store;
So thou, being rich in “Will,” add to thy “Will”
One will of mine, to make thy large “Will” more.
Let no unkind, no fair beseechers kill;
Think all but one, and me in that one “Will.”

Wachter fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Mar 18, 2020

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Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

forkboy84 posted:

For the best. He was a loving loser anyway. Imagine not being able to beat a man with no brain. loving hell.

gently caress off, seriously when we lost you weren't acting as if it was our fault that the GB public just listen to what they have been told.

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Nov 18, 2006

Lipstick Apathy

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Josef bugman posted:

gently caress off, seriously when we lost you weren't acting as if it was our fault that the GB public just listen to what they have been told.

We lost in December because of Brexit and anti-semitism slurs. Bernie lost because uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?

Much like Corbyn Bernie was far too unwilling to go low when he needed to, to actually fight. Not that pointing out your opponent is sundowning when no one else is willing to should be regarded as going negative.

I didn't eviscerate Corbyn in December because I was far too loving miserable. I've moved on.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
Wasn't it that the youth didn't actually bother turning out for Bernie in the end?

That was the most crushing thing of all to me. Ratfucking I can deal with. Brexit ruining everything I can deal with. But when it's your own side loving you over, then all hope is truly lost

Disgusting Coward
Feb 17, 2014

Jel Shaker posted:

I promised myself, before I opened the plastic post packaging, that if it was a sarky dismissive cover I’d unsubscribe , but I was pleasantly surprised

The article from M.D about the situation was...odd reading. Not entirely sure how I felt about it. Would it be kosher to transcribe it here?

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Bobstar posted:

Wow, and we thought we were going to perform a musical on Monday...





Wait this isn't the Simpsons thread

Right click, save as..

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Also my mind wandered earlier while thinking about population density and the claim that 500 people per square kilometre was "crowded". To the best of my back-of-the-envelope capabilities, 500 people/km^2 is 8 people in an area the size of the pitch at the Oval (17,000 m^2) - in other words just over half as crowded as a cricket pitch during a game (including umpires). That's a lot of space to stretch out.

An average football pitch is 7,500 m^2 - with 22 players and a ref (the assistants are of course outside the pitch) that's a density of 3,000 people per square kilometre, or about the same as the most suburban of the London suburbs.

A tennis court in a singles match has a population density of 10,223 people per square kilometre, about the same as an average inner London borough - in a doubles match that goes up to 15,340 (it's not double because the doubles court is larger of course) which would put it between Hackney and Tower Hamlets (3rd and 2nd most densely-populated local authorities in the country).

To get up to the density of Marsh Wall/Millharbour on the Isle of Dogs (~75k/km^2) the only sport I could think of was volleyball, which with ten players on a court of 162 square metres has a density of 61,728/km^2 - I can't think of any sports that have a more crowded playing area than that off the top of my head.

I've not really got a point to make about this other than as an interesting way of visualising what those differing densities mean. Also I discovered, while working out the numbers for a couple of examples (I really wanted one that was around the 7.5k mark that most urban areas top out at) that a lot of sports average out around the same kind of density (rugby, gridiron and association football are all similar despite different numbers of players and basketball, futsal, handball and most other indoor sports all come out around the same as doubles tennis despite very different backgrounds). Anyway that's what I did instead of work for the last half hour.

Well, I looked up the population density of my municipality for comparisons sake. It's 10.51 per km2.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

Barry Foster posted:

Wasn't it that the youth didn't actually bother turning out for Bernie in the end?

That was the most crushing thing of all to me. Ratfucking I can deal with. Brexit ruining everything I can deal with. But when it's your own side loving you over, then all hope is truly lost


Many many people no matter the age demographic went “absolutely love his thinking but he looks like he’s going to keel over at any moment so we may very well be voting for whoever would be his VP” and no showed.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good
Camrath knows a financial times journalist :guillotine:

https://www.ft.com/content/e8c98d1c-6926-11ea-a3c9-1fe6fedcca75

quote:

London is facing a lockdown, possibly before the weekend, as Boris Johnson prepares sweeping new measures — including school closures — to tackle the rapid spread of the coronavirus.

Nicola Sturgeon, Scotland’s first minister, said the UK government was about to announce “more stringent measures” for London, which Mr Johnson has conceded has become the country’s worst affected region.

Asked how far the UK was from a “complete lockdown”, Ms Sturgeon said the capital city might see tougher measures first because it was further ahead on the “curve” of the outbreak.

Scotland’s first minister is fully briefed on UK-wide coronavirus measures and Mr Johnson’s team admitted that officials were considering big new restrictions to daily life in London. “Things are moving fast,” one said.

...

Mr Johnson’s allies say no new measures were planned for the capital on Wednesday or Thursday, but government insiders say the lockdown might be announced on Friday. “People are looking at it, but it’s too early to say when or whether we will do this,” said another government official.

The prime minister’s spokesman said: “London seems to be moving ahead of other parts of the UK and he [Boris Johnson] advised people in London to pay particular attention to the measures we have been putting in place.”

Sadiq Khan, London’s mayor, has complained that he is not being kept fully informed of the UK government’s plans and his allies said he was not clear whether the lockdown would take place or what form it might take.

:byodame: Copying articles to share with others is a breach of FT.com T&Cs and Copyright Policy :byodame:

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


RockyB posted:

Camrath knows a financial times journalist :guillotine:

https://www.ft.com/content/e8c98d1c-6926-11ea-a3c9-1fe6fedcca75


:byodame: Copying articles to share with others is a breach of FT.com T&Cs and Copyright Policy :byodame:

Nope, though weirdly the guy who passed this on actually met Cato in Syria, for those of you who know your goon-lore.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Wachter posted:

"Nonproductive cough" sounds like a dystopian performance review


Thanks for this, I'll pass it on.

e:

Also there are forums that workers at the big supermarkets here use to support each other with exactly that kind of crap. I know the Tesco one had quite a few people who were union reps who could usually give specific advice about employment rights. It spoke volumes how often their advice was needed, too.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Camrath posted:

Right click, save as..

Now you just need the dogs with fudge in their mouths, so that when they bark they shoot fudge at you.

Properly wrapped, of course

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I honestly don’t see how they would inforce a lockdown outside of major cities.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

thanks for the info on therapies and the like, it's only one prong but having an actual plan beyond "wait it out and hope everyone gets immune" would be cool and good


Dahir Insaat was right

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

learnincurve posted:

I honestly don’t see how they would inforce a lockdown outside of major cities.

Or inside, for that matter. Any cops are going to be deployed to really super critical-to-civilisation places, like bank HQs.

I_Socom
Jul 18, 2007

A great ride that requires finesse and effort to get the best out of it.


Looking forward to Dahir Insaat releasing a video of their covid solution. Unless it's just a repurposed safety bed

Edit: baka kaba :arghfist:

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

learnincurve posted:

Many many people no matter the age demographic went “absolutely love his thinking but he looks like he’s going to keel over at any moment so we may very well be voting for whoever would be his VP” and no showed.

I've genuinely given up on humanity en masse.

Which is not to say that I don't want to do what's right, and I will try my best to do so, in my own tiny ways, but I expect nothing but disappointment from humans and nothing but iniquity from human society.

This is three doom posts in a row, so I think it's time for me to take a break.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

learnincurve posted:

Many many people no matter the age demographic went “absolutely love his thinking but he looks like he’s going to keel over at any moment so we may very well be voting for whoever would be his VP” and no showed.

the DNC went all in on voter suppression and everything else. california hasn't even finished declaring its delegates. the democrat leadership are absolutely more concerned by a bernie presidency than a trump one because the money keeps flowing in a trump presidency

https://twitter.com/jvgraz/status/1240126534838616074

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
I think it's worth highlighting here that nerves are going to get extremely frayed as this goes on, particularly as places like this thread become where people are getting most of their socialization. And that's OK - things are catastrophically, terrifyingly hosed right now. But we should try to be understanding of other posters when they express their anxieties - even when that expression isn't done optimally.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

Prince Phillip, pictured yesterday:

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

https://twitter.com/hotelfootballuk/status/1240313520643887105

This is fairly excellent

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
33 deaths. We are gonna be Italy real soon, that's exactly where they were 10 days ago.

Looking at Germany's numbers and seeing what a well-funded healthcare system gets you is depressing.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Boris is definitely feeling Churchillian

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1240307154671874050

Subbz
Nov 4, 2008

bionic vapour boy posted:

What does a lockdown mean for people who can't work from home (ie: me), or is that one of those trifling issues Pfeff won't have thought about yet?

I've got about a month's pay in my savings but if I'm going to be getting the equivalent of SSP for the forseeable that's uh, not going to last me very long at all

I'm in the same boat, and I'm absolutely terrified. Still waiting on an update from work to see if we're gonna get paid, but it's looking grim.

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

Barry Foster posted:

Wasn't it that the youth didn't actually bother turning out for Bernie in the end?

That was the most crushing thing of all to me. Ratfucking I can deal with. Brexit ruining everything I can deal with. But when it's your own side loving you over, then all hope is truly lost

I've never lived in a world where hope was a worthwhile endeavor, and neither has anyone else breathing.

Start with the assumption that nothing will go your way and then ask what you wish to do knowing that the struggle is futile and the meaning has to come from nothing more than the act itself.

It is possible to make the world better. It won't last, but nothing lasts. Maybe someone else will pick up the torch after you're done.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

that is Boomer-on-Facebook levels of random ITALICS and underlinings and capitalisations

escapegoat
Aug 18, 2013

Barry Foster posted:

Wasn't it that the youth didn't actually bother turning out for Bernie in the end?

That was the most crushing thing of all to me. Ratfucking I can deal with. Brexit ruining everything I can deal with. But when it's your own side loving you over, then all hope is truly lost

If the youth wouldn't turn out in December then there's no hope they'll turn out for anything.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
If you go to https://www.parsleybox.com/ME3

they're doing a deal 10 of their meals + 2 mini bottles of wine + free delivery for Ł19.99

I've just ordered a pack to go to my mother.

They're longlife meals that don't need refrigerating or freezing.

No idea what they are like, but seemed like a good offer as I'm not convinced mother has enough food in for a prolonged lockdown.

Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

I think
your hair
looks much
better
pushed
over to
one side

Gaz is a good lad

VileLL
Oct 3, 2015



i;m putting my entire psychic energy to work finishing the fucker, banishing him from saintly pastures and all known realms

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

uhm

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1240325975239516160

yikes

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

what utter contemptible horseshit from this man of all people

we need to learn from other countries, huh? why now and not six weeks ago?

we know how to beat it? well, that's true, you need to loving shut everything down which is what you're obviously doing right this sec... oh

we need to increase social support? I mean, yes, especially after you spent 10 years slashing it to the bone, but what are you actually doing to achieve that?

"if we follow the scientific advice that is now being given" is an interesting phrase, because we all know the scientific advice that was previously being given was absolute bollocks even when you were shaming people for doubting it, but now the science "has changed" so you've actually been right the whole time

also, "this government will do whatever it takes" apparently, as long as that involves not doing anything, obviously

OTOH his use of random capitalisation and forced attempts at slogans has really won my confidence

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Jesus Christ

Shogi
Nov 23, 2004

distant Pohjola
The youth registration & turnout strategy Sanders went with made me very nervous from the start simply because it’s the same strategy that went so well for us in 2019. Iowa lulled me a little but after that the youth numbers seemed to drop steadily. More young people did vote than in 2016, but they were thoroughly drowned out by a huge surge of older centrists. The usual hideous voter suppression that is somehow accepted in the beacon of the free world was in place too - 7 hour lines at universities, not enough voting machines in poor precincts, delayed results with known errors left in, standard America stuff.

On top of that the entire DNC machine and media delivered a perfectly co-ordinated kneecapping on the night before Super Tuesday with two centrists dropping out and endorsing last minute.

It does worry me though that it seems so impossible to get the youth vote out en masse reliably. I started voting consistently in my early 20s and things seem so much more obviously broken now...if young people aren’t prepared to get out there then what chance have we got?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

gently caress. So it didn't peak, then.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

That's loving horrible, and loving terrifying

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
genuinely more for american people than obama did after 2008

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1240312163195125765

Shogi
Nov 23, 2004

distant Pohjola
The science (that we plug into our model) has changed (from irrelevant poo poo to the science everyone else has been using)

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Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
nm - insensitive

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Mar 18, 2020

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