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WarpedNaba: Feb 8, 2012; Being social makes me swell!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B21IDMoWCg&t=9s

Replace the beers with Pangolins and you're golden.

# ? Mar 19, 2020 02:16

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# ? May 29, 2024 22:42

Atopian: Sep 23, 2014; I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Something something pangolin-urine-golden-beer

# ? Mar 19, 2020 02:24

Porfiriato: Jan 4, 2016

WarpedNaba posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B21IDMoWCg&t=9s

Replace the beers with Pangolins and you're golden.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBotG_sneMs

Replace Shamu with a Pangolin and you're golden.

# ? Mar 19, 2020 02:28

Ailumao: Nov 4, 2004

Atopian posted:

My impression about the wet markets is that the central government definitely wants them closed - direct and indirect messagjng is clear.

But, apparently not enough to push the issue hard with local government, which wants to continue to get its cut.
Well, I mean, specific representatives of local government, but whatever.

Like anything, it's all up to local enforcement. Shanghai and I'm guessing other bigger cities like Beijing, haven't had anything resembling an old-school wet market in years and years, and in Shanghai even streetside food carts have been banned for years now (tho this one is supposedly being reversed soon).

Shanghai has also enforced smoking bans since like 2016, way ahead of the curve, so they're the outlier here on "actually enforcing regulations".

What's interesting to me about this whole thing is how consistently vocal Chinese people have been online about not having any of what the gov. is putting out about their "great response" to the virus. To this day it seems very few people are buying it and censors are working overtime as a result. I'm not sure how things will go but it's not likely the gov will be able to effectively sweep this under the rug the way they're hoping, or how a lot of foreign press and pundits seem to assume most people are eating it up.

Any praise I see is on local governments for taking steps to curb the spread while actively admonishing the central administration.

It's gone on way longer than I thought it would, now some 6-7 weeks out.

# ? Mar 19, 2020 04:25

Atopian: Sep 23, 2014; I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Yeah. And as mentioned before, I find the relatively light touch currently being employed by the government on this issue very unusual.

I guess they must be recognising the limits of their ability to suppress the topic, and instead choose to shape it, but it's still weird to see.

# ? Mar 19, 2020 04:58

sticksy: May 26, 2004; Nap Ghost

Lol, "countermeasures" - hmm maybe as in this was an espionage operation, not journalism..?

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202003/19/WS5e72a99fa310128217280367.html

Chinese Pravda posted:

Countermeasures taken against United States media outlets are legitimate and justified self-defense that Beijing is compelled to take in response to Washington's unreasonable oppression of Chinese media organizations, Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said on Wednesday.

"They are entirely necessary and reciprocal. We urge the US side to immediately correct its mistakes. Otherwise, it will be the US side who suffers greater loss," he said, adding that China has all the options on the table.

In countermeasures announced by the ministry early on Wednesday, it demanded that US journalists working with The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post whose press credentials are due to expire before the end of 2020 notify the ministry's information department within four days and hand back their press cards within 10 days.

It also demanded the branches in China of the three newspapers as well as the Voice of America and Time magazine provide information about their staff, finances, operations and real estate in China.

The ministry said the measures are in response to the US decision this month to reduce by 40 percent the number of Chinese nationals working for five Chinese media outlets in the US, which were designated "foreign missions" by the US State Department in February.

"If any US media outlet has any complaints over China's countermeasures, they can bring it forward to the US government," Geng said.

When asked whether the journalists have to leave China immediately after 10 days, Geng said that unlike what the US has done with Chinese journalists, China will deal with the issue in a more considerate and humanitarian way given the current epidemic situation.

"China's fundamental State policy of opening-up has not changed and will not change," Geng said, adding that foreign media outlets and journalists who cover stories in accordance with laws and regulations are always welcome in China and will get continued assistance from Beijing.

"What we reject is ideological bias against China, fake news made in the name of press freedom and breaches of ethics in journalism."

Li Haidong, a professor of US studies at China Foreign Affairs University, said China's decision is normal behavior in the spirit of diplomatic reciprocity. "China is trying to remind the US of its unjustified conduct and urge it to make corrections so that the media exchanges between the two countries can be smooth and normal," Li said. He said China would not want to see barriers set up to the media of the two countries but has been forced to take measures to guarantee its own dignity and interests.

Shen Yi, a professor at Fudan University in Shanghai, told the Global Times that amity in a relationship can only be established on the basis of equality instead of unilateral tolerance. If the US breaks the normal rules of playing the game, China has to play it according to the US rules, he said.

Li said China holds an open attitude toward exchanges with the US and there is huge space for bilateral exchanges in various fields, including media. "It is critical that the two sides do their utmost to create conditions for strengthening communications and facilitating bilateral cooperation," he said.

"How dare the Imperialist US without thousands of years of glorious history not repeated and loudly fellate Daddy Xi and the CCP for the magnificent job during this pandemic they caused and exacerbated through their subterfuge and suppression! Those are the rules of the game, did you not know?"

# ? Mar 19, 2020 04:58

WarpedNaba: Feb 8, 2012; Being social makes me swell!

Actually it's about ethics in wet market journalism.

# ? Mar 19, 2020 05:16

CIGNX: May 7, 2006; You can trust me

bobjr posted:

https://twitter.com/Spilling_The_T/status/1240387988682571776?s=20

# ? Mar 19, 2020 06:00

Honky Dong Country: Feb 11, 2015

CIGNX posted:

plz don't dox me

# ? Mar 19, 2020 06:05

Shrimp or Shrimps: Feb 14, 2012

Don't worry the boomers in Hong Kong will take up the mantle of defending the CPC and ensuring anyone who criticizes it knows that actually they are racist.

# ? Mar 19, 2020 06:25

oohhboy: Jun 8, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Bravely absorbing viral loads.

# ? Mar 19, 2020 06:27

Kill All Cops: Apr 11, 2007; Pacheco de Chocobo; Hell Gem

Shrimp or Shrimps posted:

Don't worry the boomers in Hong Kong will take up the mantle of defending the CPC and ensuring anyone who criticizes it knows that actually they are racist.

HK boomers were already busy last weekend giving away their personal details signing up for supporting article 23

# ? Mar 19, 2020 06:38

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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sticksy posted:

"How dare the Imperialist US without thousands of years of glorious history not repeated and loudly fellate Daddy Xi and the CCP for the magnificent job during this pandemic they caused and exacerbated through their subterfuge and suppression! Those are the rules of the game, did you not know?"

lol the media right now is generally either ambivalent of china or actively admiring it (because Covid-19 has made people scared and stupid) and so naturally the CCP blows their own PR opportunity by making GBS threads on them specifically

The CCP's ability to make the wrong decision in every single scenario is actually impressive

# ? Mar 19, 2020 06:59

Tupperwarez: Apr 4, 2004; "phphphphphphpht"? this is what you're going with?

you sure?

Fojar38 posted:

The CCP's ability to make the wrong decision in every single scenario is actually impressive

The CCP wants to rule a world it refuses to understand.

# ? Mar 19, 2020 07:04

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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incidentally this aged well:

https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152

# ? Mar 19, 2020 07:16

McSpanky: Jan 16, 2005

Fojar38 posted:

incidentally this aged well:

https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152

Captured for posterity, just in case.

# ? Mar 19, 2020 07:25

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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I saw it on reddit as a jpg and my first thought was "No way that's real. The little Chinese flag on the end? Only an image but no direct link? Perfectly suiting a narrative of WHO incompetence? Probably a manipulated image from a conspiracy theorist, but I guess I'll look it up just in case" and lo and behold

# ? Mar 19, 2020 07:28

d0s: Jun 28, 2004

in the comments of that twitter post there is a youtube video linked where a man with a whiteboard explains that 5G causes covid-19, it has 341,664 views

# ? Mar 19, 2020 07:47

exmachina: Mar 12, 2006; Look Closer

Which means after taking bots into account, hardly anyone saw it.

# ? Mar 19, 2020 10:32

Power Khan: Aug 20, 2011; by Fritz the Horse

Zero new infections in China. Very zero.

# ? Mar 19, 2020 13:17

peanut: Sep 9, 2007

CIGNX posted:

nice elephants good elephants

# ? Mar 19, 2020 14:35

Shumagorath: Jun 6, 2001

sticksy posted:

Lol, "countermeasures" - hmm maybe as in this was an espionage operation, not journalism..?

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202003/19/WS5e72a99fa310128217280367.html

"How dare the Imperialist US without thousands of years of glorious history not repeated and loudly fellate Daddy Xi and the CCP for the magnificent job during this pandemic they caused and exacerbated through their subterfuge and suppression! Those are the rules of the game, did you not know?"

I never did get around to that bingo card, but "according to the law" is definitely the free square for obvious reasons.

Power Khan posted:

Zero new infections in China. Very zero.

Falsifying so they can have the foreign ministry yell "ITALY #1".

Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Mar 20, 2020

# ? Mar 19, 2020 15:19

Blistex: Oct 30, 2003; Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

The celebratory tone of Italy #1 in Chinese media is in pretty bad taste. Given the number of people who lost loved ones in Italy, I don't think China is going to have many friends left in the country.

# ? Mar 19, 2020 19:43

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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Blistex posted:

The celebratory tone of Italy #1 in Chinese media is in pretty bad taste. Given the number of people who lost loved ones in Italy, I don't think China is going to have many friends left in the country.

The fact that this pandemic is obviously the result of extreme incompetence on the part of the CCP rather than any malicious intent is the only thing keeping it out of "act of war" territory.

# ? Mar 19, 2020 19:55

Shumagorath: Jun 6, 2001

Blistex posted:

The celebratory tone of Italy #1 in Chinese media is in pretty bad taste. Given the number of people who lost loved ones in Italy, I don't think China is going to have many friends left in the country.

Got some examples? That stuff should be shared far and wide. I know the Brits have Daily Mail and UK / Canada have their Suns, but I can't recall anyone cheering a death toll even in wartime.

Edit: Civilians, that is. I'm sure everyone hooted about dead AQ/Taliban/ISIS and I'm not going to be upset about that.

Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Mar 19, 2020

# ? Mar 19, 2020 20:08

Blistex: Oct 30, 2003; Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

/\ phone posting right now, but China People's Daily had a big "Italy #1 post" on a front page article that was basically saying, China has many more people, and we no longer have the highest death toll because we're way ahead of the curve in stopping the spread. My wife was reading it and made a sound of disgust and put her tablet away.

Unfortunately the"incompetence angle" is going to be directed inwards for a while and people are going to likely expend all their rage and frustrations at their own governments and forget who started it all and why.

Companies are going to be so desperate to start getting back into the black that they are going to instantly forgive China for starting all of this.

It's going to be business as usual when this finally blows over.

Blistex fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Mar 19, 2020

# ? Mar 19, 2020 20:10

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Shumagorath posted:

I can't recall anyone cheering a death toll even in wartime.

I moved to Korea about a week before the Tohoku earthquake and some people were absolutely stoked about it. The students at the elementary school I was teaching in had a running death total on the board and were singing little impromptu songs about how Japan was dead and how great it was. Ran into plenty of adults happy about it too. Not the greatest introduction to a new country and culture I knew very little about.

# ? Mar 19, 2020 20:14

Squalid: Nov 4, 2008

I mean the President of the United States is making a point to call it 'Chinese Virus' at every available opportunity. . . it's not exactly subtle messaging.

# ? Mar 19, 2020 20:16

Blistex: Oct 30, 2003; Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Squalid posted:

I mean the President of the United States is making a point to call it 'Chinese Virus' at every available opportunity. . . it's not exactly subtle messaging.

Trade War is now using Biological Weapons.

# ? Mar 19, 2020 20:22

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die; Nap Ghost

Squalid posted:

I mean the President of the United States is making a point to call it 'Chinese Virus' at every available opportunity. . . it's not exactly subtle messaging.

he's figured out that when people get mad about that they don't ask him why our testing is still so abysmal

# ? Mar 19, 2020 20:29

Beachcomber: May 21, 2007; Another day in paradise.; Slippery Tilde

PHIZ KALIFA posted:

the only folks i see in these shops are international students or otaku trying to date them. why the hell would someone be an otaku for poland? poltaku. pierogi aren't even originally polish. polka sucks.

# ? Mar 19, 2020 21:33

Nucken Futz: Oct 30, 2010; by Reene

Tupperwarez posted:

The CCP wants to rule a world it refuses to understand.

Truth.

Maybe this s/b the title?

# ? Mar 19, 2020 22:41

Blistex: Oct 30, 2003; Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

PHIZ KALIFA posted:

why the hell would someone be an otaku for poland? poltaku. pierogi aren't even originally polish. polka sucks.

The Chinese nickname for Polish people is "big breasts".

# ? Mar 19, 2020 23:03

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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Mozi posted:

he's figured out that when people get mad about that they don't ask him why our testing is still so abysmal

Criticism of Western responses to this are totally fair game, but that criticism also needs to be put in the proper context, namely that China covered it up for 3 months and the WHO was spinning its wheels to avoid upsetting China, and by the time both of them actually admitted that it was happening something like 5 million people had already left Wuhan.

There wasn't really anything that Western governments could do to avoid outbreaks since it was already too late by the time China and the WHO came clean. This is the fundamental cause of this outbreak and that point needs to be hammered home, since China hasn't wasted any time spinning up its propaganda machine to deflect blame, and it's clear that China needs to be held to account and that the WHO needs some sort of reform.

Fojar38 fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Mar 19, 2020

# ? Mar 19, 2020 23:14

tractor fanatic: Sep 9, 2005; Pillbug

Which three months are you talking about here?

# ? Mar 19, 2020 23:20

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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tractor fanatic posted:

Which three months are you talking about here?

Mid-November to late January. China in particular was silencing/arresting doctors to cover it up and even ordering the destruction of samples.

# ? Mar 19, 2020 23:21

tractor fanatic: Sep 9, 2005; Pillbug

Are you saying the Chinese government knew about this in mid-November?

# ? Mar 19, 2020 23:21

Ugly In The Morning: Jul 1, 2010; Pillbug

tractor fanatic posted:

Are you saying the Chinese government knew about this in mid-November?

They ordered a lot of data regarding the virus destroyed in December, so that tracks.

# ? Mar 19, 2020 23:22

Fojar38: Sep 2, 2011; Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia

also here's a stupid take
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tractor fanatic posted:

Are you saying the Chinese government knew about this in mid-November?

The first known case according to their own documents was November 17th.

# ? Mar 19, 2020 23:23

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# ? May 29, 2024 22:42

tractor fanatic: Sep 9, 2005; Pillbug

Fojar38 posted:

The first known case according to their own documents was November 17th.

Yes, by going back and looking at previous pneumonia cases. Are you saying the Chinese government was able to detect immediately that some unknown pneumonia was a new virus?

# ? Mar 19, 2020 23:25

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