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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race?
This poll is closed.
R. Allin-Khan 6 1.60%
R. Burgon 80 21.33%
D. Butler 72 19.20%
A. Rayner 35 9.33%
I. Murray 5 1.33%
P. Flaps 177 47.20%
Total: 375 votes
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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Lol

https://twitter.com/TwinklingTania/...ingawful.com%2F

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Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon
The list of key workers has been released and it's basically loving everyone. Schools are closed in only the absolute loosest definition of the word:

Guidance for schools, colleges and local authorities on maintaining educational provision posted:

If your work is critical to the COVID-19 response, or you work in one of the critical sectors listed below, and you cannot keep your child safe at home then your children will be prioritised for education provision:

Health and social care

This includes but is not limited to doctors, nurses, midwives, paramedics, social workers, care workers, and other frontline health and social care staff including volunteers; the support and specialist staff required to maintain the UK’s health and social care sector; those working as part of the health and social care supply chain, including producers and distributers of medicines and medical and personal protective equipment.

Education and childcare

This includes nursery and teaching staff, social workers and those specialist education professionals who must remain active during the COVID-19 response to deliver this approach.

Key public services

This includes those essential to the running of the justice system, religious staff, charities and workers delivering key frontline services, those responsible for the management of the deceased, and journalists and broadcasters who are providing public service broadcasting.

Local and national government

This only includes those administrative occupations essential to the effective delivery of the COVID-19 response or delivering essential public services such as the payment of benefits, including in government agencies and arms length bodies.

Food and other necessary goods

This includes those involved in food production, processing, distribution, sale and delivery as well as those essential to the provision of other key goods (for example hygienic and veterinary medicines).

Public safety and national security

This includes police and support staff, Ministry of Defence civilians, contractor and armed forces personnel (those critical to the delivery of key defence and national security outputs and essential to the response to the COVID-19 pandemic), fire and rescue service employees (including support staff), National Crime Agency staff, those maintaining border security, prison and probation staff and other national security roles, including those overseas.

Transport

This includes those who will keep the air, water, road and rail passenger and freight transport modes operating during the COVID-19 response, including those working on transport systems through which supply chains pass.

Utilities, communication and financial services

This includes staff needed for essential financial services provision (including but not limited to workers in banks, building societies and financial market infrastructure), the oil, gas, electricity and water sectors (including sewerage), information technology and data infrastructure sector and primary industry supplies to continue during the COVID-19 response, as well as key staff working in the civil nuclear, chemicals, telecommunications (including but not limited to network operations, field engineering, call centre staff, IT and data infrastructure, 999 and 111 critical services), postal services and delivery, payments providers and waste disposal sectors.
How the gently caress are teachers meant to look after all these kids 6am to 10pm and still remotely teach the kids that are off?

Oodles
Oct 31, 2005

quote:

those responsible for the management of the deceased

Can’t imagine that’s a fun annual review.

pitch a fitness
Mar 19, 2010

Loonytoad Quack posted:

The list of key workers has been released and it's basically loving everyone. Schools are closed in only the absolute loosest definition of the word:

How the gently caress are teachers meant to look after all these kids 6am to 10pm and still remotely teach the kids that are off?
Schools (that im in touch with) were told to prep for 10% attendance over normal school hours. Given the list, that feels...off somewhat.

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

Loonytoad Quack posted:

The list of key workers has been released and it's basically loving everyone. Schools are closed in only the absolute loosest definition of the word:

How the gently caress are teachers meant to look after all these kids 6am to 10pm and still remotely teach the kids that are off?

Im sure the billionaire consortium that owns my company will try to argue that we are an essential transport service and thus need to remain open in the event of a lockdown. We're a loving Ferrari dealer

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Oodles posted:

Can’t imagine that’s a fun annual review.

"Under strengths you've put down "being dead", and under weaknesses you've put "decomposition""

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

goddamnedtwisto posted:

"Under strengths you've put down "being dead", and under weaknesses you've put "decomposition""

"fit for work"

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

fridge corn posted:

Im sure the billionaire consortium that owns my company will try to argue that we are an essential transport service and thus need to remain open in the event of a lockdown. We're a loving Ferrari dealer

I mean if the financial services sector is staying open you have to as well, critical support worker.

Shogi
Nov 23, 2004

distant Pohjola
That comment someone made earlier about the closed schools actually being open way more seems to have been prophetic. Aren’t we usually told not to view schools as free babysitters? If that many kids are still mixing doesn’t it ruin the whole point of the measure?

On a selfish note, being able to identify the split point of my trachea and the upper margins of my lungs via pain was a fun novelty. But I’d like it to go away now please. Wouldn’t mind being able to talk without stopping to breathe every sentence too.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
I've always known my job is wildly unimportant and absolutely useless to the world, but it's good to have official government confirmation. 

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Shogi posted:

Aren’t we usually told not to view schools as free babysitters? If that many kids are still mixing doesn’t it ruin the whole point of the measure?
You forget the direction in which number must go

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003


Hmm I wonder if that also happened here it did

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Don't you go to prison for that?

Also they've stopped coming for my green bins.

NotJustANumber99 fucked around with this message at 09:45 on Mar 20, 2020

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

You do, they don't.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Maybe MPs etc should have any stocks & shares they have frozen until 2 years after they cease to be a public 'servant'.

Extremely right wing friend can suddenly see the point of a UBI at least through this crisis (he's a freelancer)!

Today I'm not going to post any virus news on my FB - all uplifting sounds etc - and not watch any main news or twitter.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

fridge corn posted:

Im sure the billionaire consortium that owns my company will try to argue that we are an essential transport service and thus need to remain open in the event of a lockdown. We're a loving Ferrari dealer

That seems a safe bet. Over in the States Gamestop employees are being told to lie to law enforcement and to say that they sell "Essential Electronics Equipment" so that they can stay trading.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



The Question IRL posted:

That seems a safe bet. Over in the States Gamestop employees are being told to lie to law enforcement and to say that they sell "Essential Electronics Equipment" so that they can stay trading.

It's true but they could just become a giant Switch vending machine instead of allowing customers inside.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

fridge corn posted:

Im sure the billionaire consortium that owns my company will try to argue that we are an essential transport service and thus need to remain open in the event of a lockdown. We're a loving Ferrari dealer

Tesla factories in California tried to stay open and the authorities said "lol no you don't"

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Also they've stopped coming for my green bins.

:siren: DEFCON 1 SOUND THE BINS ALARM :siren:

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
I had a dream last night that I suffered a compound fracture of my humerus, but for some reason the doctors decide the best treatment for this was to amputate my arm and then re-attach it, solely so I could run around and beat people round the head with my own severed arm. I must take this to a psychologist

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

I had a dream last night that I suffered a compound fracture of my humerus, but for some reason the doctors decide the best treatment for this was to amputate my arm and then re-attach it,

You're lucky you even got seen in A&E, stop complaining

Blacknose
Jul 28, 2006

Meet frustration face to face
A point of view creates more waves
So lose some sleep and say you tried

Shogi posted:


On a selfish note, being able to identify the split point of my trachea and the upper margins of my lungs via pain was a fun novelty. But I’d like it to go away now please. Wouldn’t mind being able to talk without stopping to breathe every sentence too.

It's a genuinely unusual sensation isn't it.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Just popping in to say I'm absolutely flabbergasted that the government still hasn't loving closed anything or locked anything down

We really are the sick man of Europe aren't we, the divide has never been clearer

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Lord Ludikrous posted:

Everywhere around me is picked clean aside from the really expensive stuff, even the corner shops.

A huge success for the government's policy of extremely non-specific foreboding.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




NotJustANumber99 posted:

Don't you go to prison for that?

Also they've stopped coming for my green bins.

I think there's probably no rules against it because no one ever felt like we needed any. Turns out ruling politicians by convention doesn't work too great.

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde

The Guardian blog had this today:

quote:

A scramble by the UK to produce thousands of ventilators to fight the coronavirus outbreak was achieving results as top companies have already produced a prototype and it should be ready for use in hospitals by the end of next week, according to Britain’s health secretary.

“More than half a dozen companies have already made one in prototype, to check with us that we are happy with the quality ,” Matt Hancock told BBC TV.

Apparently we need prototypes of something that already exists.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Can't wait until all remaining small pub and restaurant chains close and are replaced with Wetherspoon and Greene King.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Love too rely on my 1 week proven ventilator technology to not die.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

sinky posted:

The Guardian blog had this today:


Apparently we need prototypes of something that already exists.

Well it's probably a low-quality version of your normal ventilator, something that can be churned out more quickly. So yeah you probably do need to prototype it.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
They forgot vets existed when they made that list...

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde
Why buy them from Medical Ventilators Inc. when you can get Big Daves Aircon Supply to put one together out of spare parts.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Something something essential Liberty, piffle paffle little temporary Safety, bish bosh.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

learnincurve posted:

They forgot vets existed when they made that list...

Though they did mention specifically producers of veterinary medicine so presumably you just do it yourself.

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:
I dont understand how the government can say 20000 dead is an acceptable number when China seems to have got through it with just over 3000 and the were on the front lines figuring poo poo out af they went

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

That's the price of free markets.

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

Finding it quite hard to escape from thinking and reading about coronavirus. Work is maybe 50% working out how and whether to continue treating patients for their cancer during the outbreak, 50% normal science work on writing protocols for the next treatments. My amount of work has increased quite a lot and I don't have time for exercise at the moment.

Then outside work absolutely everything on the net is about the pandemic, and I accidentally started reading the coronavirus thread which is packed with people confidently asserting things they don't really understand. My brain needs a break and it's only 1 week in.

Must be dreadful for hospital staff. I know I am actually very lucky.

/moan

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Guavanaut posted:

Something something essential Liberty, piffle paffle little temporary Safety, bish bosh.


Good work on that graphic Jon Danzig, exceptional talent there

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Wow they’re really thinking that retired doctors and nurses are going to come back and fling themselves in front of this virus

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Jel Shaker posted:

Wow they’re really thinking that retired doctors and nurses are going to come back and fling themselves in front of this virus

I can see the reasoning but, like, retired people tend to be old and will be the first to fall, and there's no loving PPE

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Actually I think you will find a literal truckload of PPE has been delivered to a lot of hospitals, according to matt hancock.

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Undead Hippo
Jun 2, 2013

Shogi posted:

That comment someone made earlier about the closed schools actually being open way more seems to have been prophetic. Aren’t we usually told not to view schools as free babysitters? If that many kids are still mixing doesn’t it ruin the whole point of the measure?

Schools are now being used only for the children of key workers, such as those responsible for medically treating the virus and with the highest infection risk. Thus ensuring that when the children of those key workers are infected they have maximum mixing with the children of other keyworkers. And so we maximally ensure the complete infection of all key workers in as short a timeframe as possible.

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