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Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
https://www.businessinsider.com/early-coronavirus-cdc-tests-distinguish-covid-water-2020-3

lmao.

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Old Boot
May 9, 2012



Buglord

Cugel the Clever posted:

Though a lot of it is surely due to underfunding that C-levels deserve blame for, I've always been surprised at just how stagnant some folks who work in tech get: "We don't need to learn and implement X, because it doesn't fit our users' past use cases and it'll probably just be superseded eventually anyways, so we should just stick with the expectations we set twenty years ago."

It's like there's a switch in peoples' brains that, when flipped, sets down a marker from which everything prior is good and eternal and everything after is bad and new-fangled.

That is a very accurate description of our IT department.

In this case, they've cited two problems:

1) we don't have the hardware - my coworker and I both have old desktops that we are perfectly happy to format and hand over to them.

2) we don't know what to do with the hardware - bullshit, they've been wiping drives and formatting them to corporate specs for the past half a year.

3) we don't know how to reliably forward the phone lines to cell phones - some legitimate merit to this, but every time phones come up they act like it's too arcane and unknowable to untangle, so they just give up before they've even started. That, and it's the latest in a long line of goalposts, see: points 1 and 2.

I should note that IT has been promising us that they'd work on ways to help is WFH for months now, just due to staffing shortages. They're out of excuses when it comes to researching this problem. And yeah I'm sure more than a few of them are paid the same kind of poo poo wages we are, but we as a department (dispatch) are never seen as critical until something like this happens and everyone's like 'oh yeah these guys are critical.'

It's infuriating.

Old Boot fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Mar 20, 2020

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Old Boot posted:

3) we don't know how to reliably forward the phone lines to cell phones - some legitimate merit to this, but every time phones come up they act like it's too arcane and unknowable to untangle, so they just give up before they've even started.

15 years ago, I had a software phone I could run on my PC at home which could act as the phone on my desk in the office. I could make and receive phone calls using my desk phone's number, access my voice mail, etc. I think my ADSL was 256K, but the quality was good enough, and I don't think people even knew I wasn't in the office. I think this was probably pretty bleeding edge back then, but I think that by now it ought to be pretty doable :shrug: I suppose a phone system is the kind of thing you might not upgrade for decades though, and..

quote:

I should note that IT has been promising us that they'd work on ways to help is WFH for months now, just due to staffing shortages.

..the cynic in me says that planning for future emergencies that may or may not happen doesn't deliver value to shareholders today, so how could you justify it?

e: vvv Yeah, to be fair, I've worked places where IT wanted to change things just for the sake of playing with something new, and it wouldn't have delivered any positive outcomes for any of the users (definitely some negative ones though).

Buttcoin purse fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Mar 20, 2020

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



A big part of ITIL is drilling it into the IT guys head how important it is to deliver value to the shareholders. When someone in the IT department comes up with a good idea it usually gets turned down until they stop coming up with good ideas.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

D&D mods posting in TFR for shopping advice, this is getting genuinely apocalyptic.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
https://twitter.com/bbcmonitoring/status/1240923087777996800?s=21

piL
Sep 20, 2007
(__|\\\\)
Taco Defender

Dont let those Luxoembourgers get you down Xi.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Gonna laugh if Donnie tones down his rhetoric in response

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Cugel the Clever posted:

I'm genuinely worried it could be accurate and that the average person is extremely low-information and just accepts what the administration is putting out at face value.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1240946508570206210


edit: trumps number keeps going up uP uP!

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
He's going to smoke Joe so loving hard. It'll be Mondale all over again

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

went to wal mart and stop and shop this AM (CT)shelves werent bad.

Arven
Sep 23, 2007

Milo and POTUS posted:

He's going to smoke Joe so loving hard. It'll be Mondale all over again

Yup. If they cash handouts happen it's a sure thing. Evil will win because Good is dumb.

davecrazy
Nov 25, 2004

I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.

Milo and POTUS posted:

He's going to smoke Joe so loving hard. It'll be Mondale all over again

The health care system hasn't totally collapsed....yet.

bird cooch
Jan 19, 2007
Is D&D leaking again?
The cash payments didn't work for bush and the Republicans are busy trying to screw up the payments as badly as possible. Read the news.



In addition, things are gonna get a whole lot worse in the coming weeks. Don't start doom-jacking now.

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

bird cooch posted:

Is D&D leaking again?
The cash payments didn't work for bush and the Republicans are busy trying to screw up the payments as badly as possible. Read the news.



In addition, things are gonna get a whole lot worse in the coming weeks. Don't start doom-jacking now.

Did Kerry beat Bush in your reality?

Diarrhea Elemental
Apr 2, 2012

Am I correct in my assumption, you fish-faced enemy of the people?

bird cooch posted:

In addition, things are gonna get a whole lot worse in the coming weeks. Don't start doom-jacking now.

I'm doom-edging, don't kinkshame me!

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

bird cooch posted:

Is D&D leaking again?
The cash payments didn't work for bush and the Republicans are busy trying to screw up the payments as badly as possible. Read the news.



In addition, things are gonna get a whole lot worse in the coming weeks. Don't start doom-jacking now.

They totally worked for Bush Jr. Remember, he did serve two terms. McCain blundered so badly in '08 that he was responsible for losing it. I mean poo poo, Palin? The gently caress was he smoking?

Pretty sure Bush pushed the $300 during his campaign in 2000.

But you are right about doomsturbating. Gotta ease into this one or you're gonna get some chafing.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

They totally worked for Bush Jr. Remember, he did serve two terms. McCain blundered so badly in '08 that he was responsible for losing it. I mean poo poo, Palin? The gently caress was he smoking?

Pretty sure Bush pushed the $300 during his campaign in 2000.

watch Game Change. it was mostly the party

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Party or not, McCain handed that election to Obama.

Alaan
May 24, 2005

John McCain legally died when the GOP took over his campaign.

Old Boot
May 9, 2012



Buglord

Buttcoin purse posted:

..the cynic in me says that planning for future emergencies that may or may not happen doesn't deliver value to shareholders today, so how could you justify it?

e: vvv Yeah, to be fair, I've worked places where IT wanted to change things just for the sake of playing with something new, and it wouldn't have delivered any positive outcomes for any of the users (definitely some negative ones though).

orange juche posted:

A big part of ITIL is drilling it into the IT guys head how important it is to deliver value to the shareholders. When someone in the IT department comes up with a good idea it usually gets turned down until they stop coming up with good ideas.

I hate that you're probably right but you're probably right.

My boss is still fighting but goddamn, we are severely understaffed. HR thinks you can just train people on the fly to run dispatch, it'll be fine. It won't be.

Ugh, gently caress, just :suicide:

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

Old Boot posted:

Guess who's not working from home for the foreseeable future, in a poorly ventilated building.

All because the IT department threw up their hands and said 'this is too hard we can't do it anyway we're working from home now bye.'

Meanwhile I’ve spent the last several days working 12-13 hour days trying to get our workforce work from home capable.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Milo and POTUS posted:

He's going to smoke Joe so loving hard. It'll be Mondale all over again

So you're saying better things aren't possible?

Woofer
Mar 2, 2020

Any minute the world is gonna stop this downward skid we have been on for like 60 years

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


from the schad thread

https://www.axios.com/israeli-intelligence-bought-100000-of-the-wrong-coronavirus-test-kits-a97b2380-fb2a-4cba-90d0-3ed931edcb90.html

quote:

The backstory: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had requested Mossad's help, hoping the intelligence service could use its web of secret contacts around the world to find relevant medical supplies.

Mossad starting approaching Arab and Muslim countries that were better supplied, but with which Israel has no diplomatic relations.

How it happened: Mossad bought 100,000 tests, which arrived in Israel last night. The agency began to brief reporters on its achievement, but the headlines turned out to be less exciting than they'd hoped.

Israel's Ministry of Health wanted swabs and test tubes for collecting samples from patients, Israeli officials say, while Mossad bought kits for a different part of the test that aren't currently needed. The officials blamed "miscommunication."
Netanyahu's office went into damage-control mode, saying the supplies would be used for other purposes and asking the Ministry of Health to issue statements praising Mossad.

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?
Bavaria's Minister President just issued a curfew beginning at midnight.

:lol: :rip:

Old Boot
May 9, 2012



Buglord

Rhymenoserous posted:

Meanwhile I’ve spent the last several days working 12-13 hour days trying to get our workforce work from home capable.

We'll be doing similar once this really starts hitting. :(

Sucks. Hope it starts to ease up. But I appreciate knowing at least *someone* out there is trying hard to make this happen, even if it's not at my company.

EDIT ^^^ WI got serious two days ago about enforcing its 10-person limit on gatherings. Looks like they're going to be throwing out jailtime and fines as penalties, though IDK how that'll work (I don't know if it's been put into action, either).

Old Boot fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Mar 20, 2020

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Stultus Maximus posted:

So you're saying better things aren't possible?

The Democratic Party is largely not interested in changing things. Their actions and results bear this out.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Proud Christian Mom posted:

The Democratic Party is largely not interested in changing things. Their actions and results bear this out.

And no party who is has any support. So I guess better things aren't possible in an American democracy?

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

Proud Christian Mom posted:

The Democratic Party is voters are largely not interested in changing things. Their actions and results bear this out.

Woofer
Mar 2, 2020

Stultus Maximus posted:

And no party who is has any support. So I guess better things aren't possible in an American democracy?

What answer are you looking for here

Just get to your point

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

went to wal mart and stop and shop this AM (CT)shelves werent bad.

Logistics hasn't shut down. Until it does, all these empty shelves are because of stupid demand and nothing more. We've turned TP into beanie babies for no good reason.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Woofer posted:

What answer are you looking for here

Just get to your point

Just want to see which people are arzying because Bernie could beat Trump and bring real change and which people are arzying because America is hopeless and doesn't want change.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

I watched Downfall one night last week and it's a really good inoculation against "The voters are too stupid to be worth trying to save" if you've been feeling that, like I was.

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Stultus Maximus posted:

Just want to see which people are arzying because Bernie could beat Trump and bring real change and which people are arzying because America is hopeless and doesn't want change.

The Democratic Party isn't interested in making fundamental changes to the government or society. Continuing to vote for them amounts to endorsing their policies and intransigence.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

SimonCat posted:

The Democratic Party isn't interested in making fundamental changes to the government or society. Continuing to vote for them amounts to endorsing their policies and intransigence.

This is pretty reductionist. I could just as easily say that not voting against Trump amounts to endorsing white supremacist fascism and concentration camps.

AOC and Bernie are currently members of the Democratic Party. They seem interested in fundamental changes to government and society.

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Chichevache posted:

This is pretty reductionist. I could just as easily say that not voting against Trump amounts to endorsing white supremacist fascism and concentration camps.

Oh look, you've discovered the DNC's 2016 GOTV strategy.

To be a little more constructive, let's look at AOC and Bernie. After AOC was elected the Party stated that any candidate trying to primary an incumbent from the left would not have the support of the Party. The Party also engineered the defeat of Sanders in this primary. While I obviously wanted Sanders to win, I would be much more accepting of his defeat if it had been a result of a fair process. As it was, the Party threw its support behind Biden and essentially picked a winner, much as they did in 2016.

At that point, why pretend that the Democratic Party is any other than a club for people who enjoy being in power and will only look out for those in that circle, as opposed to an organization to facilitate the political desires of the American people?

SimonCat fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Mar 20, 2020

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


SimonCat posted:

The Democratic Party isn't interested in making fundamental changes to the government or society. Continuing to vote for them amounts to endorsing their policies and intransigence.

Nah.

I lived in Virginia up until late last year. We had two state elections in the time I lived there. VA dems have control of all three branches and we're already seeing a ton of solid changes come through. poo poo that would have NEVER happened under the GOP or split house/senate.

I don't think Dems are perfect and I admit they gently caress up the simplest of things, but I'm getting so tired of the "Dems do nothing, nothing matters!" poo poo.

Chichevache posted:

This is pretty reductionist. I could just as easily say that not voting against Trump amounts to endorsing white supremacist fascism and concentration camps.

AOC and Bernie are currently members of the Democratic Party. They seem interested in fundamental changes to government and society.

This.

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Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

SimonCat posted:

Oh look, you've discovered the DNC's 2016 GOTV strategy.

I think you're making a big mistake when you equivocate DNC party establishment with run of the mill Democrats which can include everything from DINOs to socialists who run as democrats because the alternative is not winning elections at all. Do you really think Diane Feinstein and Ilhan Omar are functionally the same? If so, please explain.

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