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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race? This poll is closed. |
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| R. Allin-Khan |
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6 | 1.60% |
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80 | 21.33% |
| D. Butler |
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72 | 19.20% |
| A. Rayner |
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35 | 9.33% |
| I. Murray |
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5 | 1.33% |
| P. Flaps |
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177 | 47.20% |
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sassassin posted:Who could have predicted asking people nicely but not actually doing anything wouldn't work? That's a few extra days of unfettered spread on the government's hands. Lot of deaths. After we prosecute them, they should be made to dig the graves.
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https://www.twitter.com/RichardlyleSnp/status/1240636938626961419 Populism proudly trading in JAQing off: not limited to kippers
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XMNN posted:probably some combination of pretending everything because reporting bad news would be unpatriotic, and it being easier and marginally safer to hang around Whitehall whatsapping the cum meister about what measures they're maybe considering taking at some critical moment when the timing is perfect instead of going to an a+e waiting room overflowing with potential carriers Also, when waiting lists and queues are an abstract political concept happening to other people, they're outrage-worthy. When it might happen to you, the reader, imminently, it's just plain scary.
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Mar 20, 2020 17:11
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OwlFancier posted:I feel like this constant drone of "our plan isn't working, we have to do something else" isn't the best way to do crisis management? it's actually to say "we're thinking about doing something" for a while, then ask people to do it voluntarily and then eventually get round to actually doing something but in the most half-arsed way that you can manage this has the advantage that it has roughly the same effect on the economy but with the additional bonus of allowing the virus to spread further and making the intervention less effective 
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ronya posted:Slower than I thought... I figured there would only be a day between the guidance and closure order. It's been four days. this will be a recurring theme. the only thing our government can manage is the media and they're doing that first. see also: NHS PPE and guidance, community testing i suspect there may also be a factional dispute going on between the light touch herd immunity types and the less psychotic types. but thats based only on a feeling
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Angepain posted:"asking people to stay away from them isn't working"
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OwlFancier posted:I feel like this constant drone of "our plan isn't working, we have to do something else" isn't the best way to do crisis management? the alternative was to tell the truth a week ago "OH gently caress WE DIDN'T PREPARE AT ALL! OH gently caress OH gently caress!" the issue is now that theyr spending more time on media spin explaining how this isn't the case than actually doing it. so they'd probably have responded faster in the first case. a week wasted now and still counting.
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Mar 20, 2020 17:14
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I suspect boris is terrified of pissing off the tories and the press because he's a lazy coward.
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https://twitter.com/matthewlesh/status/1240694154625052673?s=21 Piercing insight from the head researcher of the Adam Smith Institute.
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OwlFancier posted:I suspect boris is terrified of pissing off the tories and the press because he's a lazy coward. He's financially set for life, has no concept of shame, and is guaranteed priority treatment if he gets infected. This is all just a puzzle game to him. Darth Walrus posted:https://twitter.com/matthewlesh/status/1240694154625052673?s=21  that ratio
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Wachter posted:He's financially set for life, has no concept of shame, and is guaranteed priority treatment if he gets infected. This is all just a puzzle game to him. its vaguely possible the media turn on him and he's made a scapegoat for this full court press of failure from all sectors of the british "government" they won't report the really bad stuff though cause of public interest laws though, buzzfeed probably will though so maybe they'll start to report second hand info
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Mar 20, 2020 17:32
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yeah just post this 4pm on a friday it's fine: https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus---school-and-elc-closures-guidance-on-critical-childcare-provision-for-key-workers/ and social landlord guidance did get posted but it was backdated to appear released march 18th, document was finalised 19th at 2:40pm: https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-guidance-for-social-landlords/ perhaps the government should accelerate their actions just a bit
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Mar 20, 2020 17:37
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Aramoro posted:It's a really interesting bit of history about how the War office and rationing influenced our diets in such a dramatic way. We basically eat brown bread because of WW1 flour rationing. And our apple pies are poo poo because the war made us stop adding cinnamon to them. Although I do like cheddar cheese which apparently during the war all cheese production was funnelled into that particular kind, which brings to mind the standardisation of pasta stuff that was being talked about last night.
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:yeah just post this 4pm on a friday it's fine: https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus---school-and-elc-closures-guidance-on-critical-childcare-provision-for-key-workers/ With the key worker childcare provision, I'm in a category 2 company in Scotland and we got guidance today basically saying "ok you -might- get childcare but seriously you need to exhaust every other option you've got, get line manager approval to even ask for it, and even then we know they're going to prioritise category 1 people so think really really hard if you actually need this"
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Mar 20, 2020 17:47
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I feel strangely calm about the situation, though I'm now out of work, aware of the extent the virus may have and in a much precarious place financially and housing wise than I was two weeks ago it's almost like my brain can't even think about it, let alone obsess or get anxious. I keep telling myself that things are changing so quickly that there's no use worrying about it, and stuff that will effect me will effect a majority of others so just see what happens? But I feel a more reasonable reaction would be more like being paralysed with anxiety almost, yet I feel the calmest I have in months.
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Same. It's like its so beyond you that your brain is like "welp, no point worrying anout this, what will happen will happen. Better just stay indoors."
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Mar 20, 2020 17:51
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I think it's a bit of this kicking in: Like maybe don't do the pint and darts bit, but don't huddle together either.
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Mar 20, 2020 17:54
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Being anxious doesn't stop the things you're anxious about from happening so it's better not to do it, IMO. Unless you like stretching the unpleasant experience out as far as possible. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Mar 20, 2020 |
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Mar 20, 2020 17:56
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OwlFancier posted:Being anxious doesn't stop the things you're anxious about from happening so it's better not to do it, IMO. Unless you like stretching the unpleasant experience out as far as possible. That's my kink
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Mar 20, 2020 17:58
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There are no situations (except maybe actual fight-or-flight) in which anxiety is beneficial. It's easy to be conditioned otherwise because freaking out sometimes seems proactive, but if you're already doing everything to limit exposure, ride the chill.
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Mar 20, 2020 17:58
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Life is the part that happens before death, and you won't be conscious of that once it happens, so anticipating the moment of it happening is literally the closest you can humanly come to dying, which seems like a niche interest.
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Mar 20, 2020 17:59
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Mar 20, 2020 18:01
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Oh no, I'm good with it, being so calm I can think about other stuff more easily, almost like I've been meditating. I just feel there'll come a point where I'll have to acknowledge things and I hope I can remain relaxed about it.
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Mar 20, 2020 18:02
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My partner has an elective surgery scheduled 2 weeks from today in a private hospital. Any idea if it's likely the hospital will cancel it given the situation? We're in miserable London, btw. I also need regular IV infusions at the local NHS hospital to keep me alive, my next is due in May. If anyone wants to reassure me that these will still be obtainable when poo poo hits the fan I would appreciate it 
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Though as a corrolary I would suggest that "death" is fundamentally a human conception attached to an inhuman aconceptual experience (actually being dead) so whatever your conception of death is, that is the concept of death and thus you can totally be afraid of it. Which is why you should avoid doing that, it's counterproductive. Bolingbroke posted:I also need regular IV infusions at the local NHS hospital to keep me alive, my next is due in May. If anyone wants to reassure me that these will still be obtainable when poo poo hits the fan I would appreciate it Given the majority of the competition for resources is likely to be for respiratory complaints I would think they'd be quite happy to stick an IV line into you and let you sit in the waiting room or something.
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Mar 20, 2020 18:04
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Jesus, Johnson on again looking visibly nervous and frightened. Just get another minister to do it if you're not up to the spotlight!
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Mar 20, 2020 18:06
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Boris: Shut it all down. Shut it down tonight! (Jesus, a bit of loving pre-planning would be nice) Literally, close all pubs,cafes and restaurants as soon as possible tonight.
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Mar 20, 2020 18:09
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He'll get his dad to do it. Live from the pub.
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Mar 20, 2020 18:13
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Wow, everyone was expecting London pubs gyms etc to be shuttered but not entire UK.
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Mar 20, 2020 18:14
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How many times can Rishi say 'Unprecedented'. That said, up to £2,500 a month for furloughed workers ain't bad. Now how about the people that have already lost jobs. Or contractors.
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Mar 20, 2020 18:14
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mother loving LOCK DOWN
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Mar 20, 2020 18:15
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Latest death figure is 33 cases in the last 24hrs. So going up but at least not (yet) exponentially.
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Mar 20, 2020 18:15
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Can't see the forest for the Magic Money Trees
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Mar 20, 2020 18:15
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Boris Johnson's government bringing in Full Socialism lmao
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Mar 20, 2020 18:15
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Glad of the shutdown but Boris is just so palpably weak and scared and out of his depth, beggers belief that anyone bought his pseudo Churchill bullshit
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Mar 20, 2020 18:18
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Rishi makes it sound like the Tories are going to help people 
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Mar 20, 2020 18:18
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Jeremy corbyn continuing to run the government from the opposition benches despite them having a large majority.
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Mar 20, 2020 18:20
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well holy poo poo, my boss can shut us down now - I'll take 80% pay without having to do any work, yes please.
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Are takeaways counted a restaurants? My girlfriend's family run one and are completely shut off from the news...
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