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FunOne posted:Not seeing anything in the north east, but vegas is sunny, calm, and at a 4+ hr inbound hold for OTHER/OTHER. https://www.reviewjournal.com/business/tourism/control-tower-at-mccarran-airport-remains-closed-for-third-day-1987779/ Tower is still closed and they're doing 10 flights per hour instead of 30-56.
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FunOne posted:Not seeing anything in the north east, but vegas is sunny, calm, and at a 4+ hr inbound hold for OTHER/OTHER. Apparently the tower is/was down for some reason. Edit:  Next page!
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Mar 22, 2020 01:16
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I live under the Philadelphia TCA and it's dead as gently caress. Getting a real 9/11 vibe.
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Mar 22, 2020 02:01
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Honestly it's not just the lack of planes above, it's the quietude in general. I was sitting in a McDonald's parking lot earlier with my engine off during a time that normally would've been busy, and even though cars were occasionally passing by on the adjacent road, it was eerily quiet.
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Mar 22, 2020 02:57
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Yeah, the last day before I stopped going to work (Tuesday, I think?) the roads were amazing clear of assholes. I thought it was a miracle at the time, but now I'm starting to have more negative thoughts about the global pandemic 
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Mar 22, 2020 03:12
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Found some aeronautical insanity I've love to know more about : Watched Everest (2015) - it's all about the 1996 Mt. Everest climbing disaster. Really good, nightmarish, and the CG for actually making it look like Mt. Everest is quite lovely. Josh Brolin's character, big Texan Beck gets the award for "least likely survival", because he's left for dead, and later manages to wake up, and walk to a camp on his own. The RL dude lost a hand and his nose to frostbite, and frankly even that seems cheap considering how impossibly hosed he was. Anyway, they get a ride down Everest. Some impossibly brave Nepal SAR pilot flies his helicopter to Everest Base camp at 17,000 ft. He then loads beck, and then kinda falls down the mountain just on the edge of not being able to fly at all. Did this happen?
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Mar 22, 2020 03:58
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Someone in the Everest thread might know the details off the top of their head.
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Mar 22, 2020 04:32
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I can't find a reference to that exact event, but this guy landed on the loving summit for 3.5 minutes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didier_Delsalle After the earthquake a few years ago there were shuttles of helicopters flying back and forth to base-camp to pick up survivors at 18,000ft So definitely do-able (with an AS350). It'd probably require additional testicular fortitude to do it with a Huey or whatever
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Nebakenezzer posted:Found some aeronautical insanity I've love to know more about : "Helicopter Rescue posted:So the Nepali pilot was operating his machine well outside its flight envelope, in a valley where his French made AS350 B2 would have been battered by wind vortices in far from ideal flying conditions. Yet not only did the Colonel manage to land and take off in such conditions, he did so twice, picking up each of the two climbers individually (his helicopter had been stripped to the bone as it was, seats removed, co-pilot left back at base camp, barely enough fuel to get him there and back, hence he could only take them down one at a time) before flying them both to Kathmandu. There is a first hand account in this video with more pictures (starts at 18:50) https://youtu.be/Bgqc2m7aBzs?t=1131 Edit: In real life it was actually at Camp 2 which is around 21,000 feet.  And here is a CNN article from the May 13th 1996:http://www.cnn.com/US/9605/13/everest/index.html Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Mar 22, 2020 |
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Mar 22, 2020 06:19
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I fly through there all the time, and just had an entire day (going through Seattle twice) get cancelled since we've been running 76 seat airplanes with maybe 15-20 people on them on a "full" leg. When all of the Asian carriers got banned, the airport was noticeably quieter, but after the rest of the international traffic closed down and Delta essentially closed up shop, it's been a ghost town there. Since the Port of Seattle is pants-on-head idiotic, they also decided this was an excellent time to cut 1/3 of the cars off their automatic inter-terminal trains, since this is obviously a good time to concentrate people together as much as possible.
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azflyboy posted:I fly through there all the time, This being after all the Everest rescue posts made me do a doubletake.
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Mar 22, 2020 20:20
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Want to see a Harrier blow up in a loving scary way? This happened on a deployment I was on in 2016. Pilot was a chill RAF dude who walked away from it with zero injuries. He didn’t eject because he couldn’t see how bad it was. The LSO was calling for him to eject but the explosion blew his battery and generator clear overboard so he couldn’t hear anything. Oh and he was strapped with a few 500 pounders. Action starts around 1:05. Check out the crash cart (fire truck cart) almost cause another casualty during its response. https://youtu.be/nlbKJDr37UU Jet was a write off. The engines in the jets next door were written off due to FOD injestion.
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Mar 23, 2020 02:33
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Mar 23, 2020 02:34
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Bob A Feet posted:Double "which, for no adequately explained reason, suddenly explodes." What actually happened here?
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Mar 23, 2020 02:39
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Absolutely amazing the pilot was alright. I'm actually slightly surprised that carriers don't have deluge guns near the ends of the decks and you have to drive a fire truck around. I'm sure the Navy must've analyzed every possible fire control option after the Forrestal fire and theres a reason they don't do that.
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Mar 23, 2020 02:39
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I never saw the results of the engineering investigation but our guess was some form of catastrophic compressor stall or failure. They do a few run ups and checks prior to letting off the brakes but never to 100% from what I understand. You can actually see a few decent sized bits (batt and gen included) go overboard during the initial explosion.
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Mar 23, 2020 02:45
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hobbesmaster posted:Absolutely amazing the pilot was alright. There are several hook ups for firefighting stations all along the decks that I think were eventually brought into the fight. I know this because they’d test them weekly and say we couldn’t walk past them. One of the many Navy power trips you get used to as a Marine on a boat.
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Mar 23, 2020 02:47
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Hot start.
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Mar 23, 2020 02:53
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The Marines took some old M247 Yorks and fitted a mattress catapult.
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Mar 23, 2020 03:13
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hobbesmaster posted:Absolutely amazing the pilot was alright.  The Navy's response to Forrestal was "stop smoking weed all the loving time" and instituting basic firefighting training for all sailors. Looks like it worked! How do you not realize that that's really loving bad? Could he just not see his entire aircraft on fire? Btw, for anyone (rightly) confused, that's an amphibious assault ship, not a proper Aircraft Carrier, a Wasp class if I'm not mistaken.
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Mar 23, 2020 03:21
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I dunno. The cockpit does have mirrors. His words after were that if he knew it looked that bad he would’ve pulled right away. He has GoPro footage if it but I’ve never seen it. He did say that he tried to get out multiple times but kept getting hit by water/AFFF and forced back down.
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Mar 23, 2020 04:31
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Airlines are uniting for a bailout
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Mar 23, 2020 04:54
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Funny how this altruism was nowhere to be found while all the stock buy-backs were underway. Although I’d like to see the “employee protections” bypass these mendacious fucks.
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Mar 23, 2020 04:58
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Nationalize the airlines and Boeing. If they can't adequately plan for financial downturns (and they've demonstrated repeatedly that they can't) and their function is so important to the nation that it has to be propped up no matter what, then they are too important to be left up to the whims of the stock market. It would be nice if any assistance bill put out there was basically only about providing income for the workers that are displaced right now, but we know that's not going to happen. It's going to be a blank check for them to waste.
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slidebite posted:Airlines are uniting for a bailout How can Atlas, UPS airlines and Fedex express be doing badly right now, surely they have to be making a killing off expedited shipments right now?
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bull3964 posted:Nationalize the airlines and Boeing. They’ll just buy back a bunch more stock after giving their employees a week’s pay. CEOs pocket whatever’s left over.
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hobbesmaster posted:How can Atlas, UPS airlines and Fedex express be doing badly right now, surely they have to be making a killing off expedited shipments right now? UPS and FedEx are getting hurt by not only travel bans, but also the fact that China was essentially closed for a couple of months and Europe and the US going into a kind of lockdown absolutely kills consumer demand and shuts down the factories and businesses that need stuff overnighted. At least in the US, most of the remaining consumer demand is for food, cleaning supplies, and TP that aren't economical to air freight, so they've probably got trucks going like crazy, but not a lot of airplanes. Atlas is in a weird place because they're heavily reliant on "on demand" work and Amazon to stay in business, so a global drop in consumer demand will hit them worse than FedEx or UPS, since they don't have any businesses except air cargo to rely on. azflyboy fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Mar 23, 2020 |
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^^E: Good point with Asia travel bans, but I suspect as long as covid is sinking on that side of the pacific those will be getting reviewed if not already.hobbesmaster posted:How can Atlas, UPS airlines and Fedex express be doing badly right now, surely they have to be making a killing off expedited shipments right now? But indeed, couriers must be making a killing. Fuel is in the toilet, minimal flight staff, crazy demand, what's not going right? Other than the world going into a spin that is. slidebite fucked around with this message at 05:38 on Mar 23, 2020 |
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slidebite posted:But indeed, couriers must be making a killing. Fuel is in the toilet, minimal flight staff, crazy demand, what's not going right? Meanwhile, in the bowels of Fortress Amazon: https://twitter.com/stacyfmitchell/status/1240979401535139840
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hobbesmaster posted:How can Atlas, UPS airlines and Fedex express be doing badly right now, surely they have to be making a killing off expedited shipments right now? Atlas is viciously greedy. UPS and FedEx 
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slidebite posted:Airlines are uniting for a bailout they don't need a bailout. they just need to sit down and make a budget, skip the starbucks coffee and the avocado toast, maybe get a side hustle like uber, or mcdonalds is always hiring!
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Rafale M AvPorn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEp-ejKyXVw
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e.pilot posted:Atlas is viciously greedy. UPS and FedEx Oh, UPS is also viciously greedy, incompetent
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Rafale M AvPorn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEp-ejKyXVw gently caress me. That is amazing!
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bull3964 posted:Nationalize the airlines and Boeing. not to get wildly D&D in here but pretty much any bailout of an industry should include Treasury taking a significant equity stake that won't happen because SOCIALISM / COMMUNISM but come on, you come to the government hat in hand, the taxpayers should own you directly.
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Airlines complain that “jobs will be lost”. Jobs doing what? Hardly anyone is flying and it’s not getting much better any time soon. Either the airlines pass that money right onto employees stuck at home, in which case they are useless, or they keep it at the top, in which case they are worse than useless. Mothballing their capability such that they could restore it at a moments notice would also be worthless, but I think we all know that they aren’t doing that. 2019 passenger numbers will not be surpassed within the decade Platystemon fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Mar 23, 2020 |
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slidebite posted:^^E: Good point with Asia travel bans, but I suspect as long as covid is sinking on that side of the pacific those will be getting reviewed if not already. Remember when GM and Chrysler went to the Feds 'cause they were bankrupt, and Ford, sitting on a huge pile of cash went to and was like "we also want money" despite sitting on a huge pile of cash?
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Elviscat posted:Remember when GM and Chrysler went to the Feds 'cause they were bankrupt, and Ford, sitting on a huge pile of cash went to and was like "we also want money" despite sitting on a huge pile of cash? They only had a huge pile of cash because they mortgaged absolutely everything they had just before poo poo hit the fan.
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Platystemon posted:
There may not be anyone on the planes, but there are still a good number of planes in the air. Way, way less than a week ago of course and it's supposed to continue dropping but they're absolutely still flying. The bumfuck Wyoming Skywest rush is still going on, but I'm sure they have to do that for whatever subsidies they get to carry corona virus to Gillette and Sheridan, Wyoming and all the other places in the middle of loving nowhere that they're flying to multiple times a day.
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