davecrazy posted:Rural areas with poo poo health infrastructure will get clobbered just as bad. Only one of those will be in the constant news cycle.
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Mar 23, 2020 17:40
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Yeah there's a big-rear end problem up here in Ontario, people with all-season cottages have hosed off to the Muskokas and Kawarthas where there is (maybe) 1 ICU bed and 1 ventilator per hospital. Most of these people tend to be on the older side, and are not following social-distancing rules.
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Mar 23, 2020 17:41
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davecrazy posted:Rural areas with poo poo health infrastructure will get clobbered just as bad. There may be an ideological cultural divide that allows them to hand wave away why this is tragic in one and acceptable in the other
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Mar 23, 2020 17:44
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One of my trauma er nurse friends is about to loose it after their hospital, by way of the FDA, is allegedly starting to tell them to just wash gloves instead of replacing them between patients. Or, if necessary, even use the food service gloves from the mess hall on some patients. Just make sure all the patients have the same infectious diseases and pathogens simple no big deal!
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Mar 23, 2020 17:45
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Untagged posted:One of my trauma er nurse friends is about to loose it after their hospital, by way of the FDA, is allegedly starting to tell them to just wash gloves instead of replacing them between patients. Or, if necessary, even use the food service gloves from the mess hall on some patients. Just make sure all the patients have the same infectious diseases and pathogens simple no big deal! I'm wondering if it's supply chain issues again, the machines for manufacturing all these things exist. They need to be significantly upping their resource utilization time (the amount of time a machine is actually making something) to move product. Get the airlines involved running cargo-only on southwest 737s if need be for god's sake.
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Mar 23, 2020 17:51
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Yeah we’re kind of well past the point where the feds should have nationalized the airlines and turned them into cargo planes/essential travel only and ordered all capable manufacturers to produce PPE and ventilators but Big Strong Daddy just wants the right Number to go Up and if we do that then good Number goes down. So we can always breed more doctors when the current practitioners are too sick to work, NBD.
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Mar 23, 2020 17:56
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pantslesswithwolves posted:Yeah we’re kind of well past the point where the feds should have nationalized the airlines and turned them into cargo planes/essential travel only and ordered all capable manufacturers to produce PPE and ventilators but Big Strong Daddy just wants the right Number to go Up and if we do that then good Number goes down. So we can always breed more doctors when the current practitioners are too sick to work, NBD. They’re going to start publicly advocating for people to start going back to work soon because we have to appease he market gods, and casualties are just something we gotta deal with. I mean that last part both as sarcasm and seriously, because capitalism must go on.
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Mar 23, 2020 17:58
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Someone point out to him how massive government programs paying industries to make necessary materials has pulled our economy out of the dumpster and made number go up. He'll loving pass that poo poo by the end of the day.
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Mar 23, 2020 17:59
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Is capitalism failing us, or are WE failing capitalism?
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Mar 23, 2020 18:00
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MA-Horus posted:I'm wondering if it's supply chain issues again, the machines for manufacturing all these things exist. They need to be significantly upping their resource utilization time (the amount of time a machine is actually making something) to move product. That would require competent, organized leadership and response at some level. We do not have that. We have an entire administration of chode-licking sycophants and dead-eyed sociopaths. They have been put in place over the last three years with the express purpose of supporting a narcissistic man-baby's ego and a behind-the-scenes purpose of grift and self-advancement. The organization management line is "Personnel are policy" and welp, this is what we get with dysfunctional leadership building the organization it wants.
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Mar 23, 2020 18:03
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bird food bathtub posted:That would require competent, organized leadership and response at some level. Yeah Stephen Miller is probably working to make this lead to replacing poors with robots, his wildest dream.
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Mar 23, 2020 18:08
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MA-Horus posted:Yeah there's a big-rear end problem up here in Ontario, people with all-season cottages have hosed off to the Muskokas and Kawarthas where there is (maybe) 1 ICU bed and 1 ventilator per hospital. WSJ had an article yesterday where vacation communities like Napa, Tahoe and beach towns are experiencing skyrocketing rental increases due to the rich fleeing NY/New England cities. Public officials are begging them not to. Because their hospitals and infrastructure can't handle an outbreak at peak season occupancy. https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-coronavirus-hits-new-yorkers-wonder-if-they-should-leave-11584897686 The comments will make you want to invest in a guillotine E: quote:Kenneth Johnson 17 hours ago egyptian rat race fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Mar 23, 2020 |
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Mar 23, 2020 18:26
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egyptian rat race posted:WSJ had an article yesterday where vacation communities like Napa, Tahoe and beach towns are experiencing skyrocketing rental increases due to the rich fleeing NY/New England cities. Public officials are begging them not to. Because their hospitals and infrastructure can't handle an outbreak at peak season occupancy. Seems like it’s going to be a self-correcting problem soon enough.
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Mar 23, 2020 18:28
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Midjack posted:Seems like it’s going to be a self-correcting problem soon enough. Yeah, that Idaho resort town that the rich fled to is the epicenter of cases in Idaho, because if there's one thing people should definitely be doing right now, it's traveling.
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Mar 23, 2020 18:35
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MA-Horus posted:I'm wondering if it's supply chain issues again, the machines for manufacturing all these things exist. They need to be significantly upping their resource utilization time (the amount of time a machine is actually making something) to move product. A lot of it’s made overseas and countries are locking down exports. Taiwan banned export of masks weeks ago.
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Mar 23, 2020 18:52
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egyptian rat race posted:WSJ had an article yesterday where vacation communities like Napa, Tahoe and beach towns are experiencing skyrocketing rental increases due to the rich fleeing NY/New England cities. Public officials are begging them not to. Because their hospitals and infrastructure can't handle an outbreak at peak season occupancy. Owned by the paywall. Pretty good metaphor for my life, really.
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Mar 23, 2020 18:56
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MA-Horus posted:Yeah there's a big-rear end problem up here in Ontario, people with all-season cottages have hosed off to the Muskokas and Kawarthas where there is (maybe) 1 ICU bed and 1 ventilator per hospital. I like how Norway explicity told people they'd be thrown in jail if they did the equivalent there. Seems to have worked from what I'm told.
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Mar 23, 2020 18:57
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJCTy6G1YCE
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Mar 23, 2020 19:34
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https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1242092697034293249
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Mar 23, 2020 19:35
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National and global casualty curves too remote and abstract a concept for you? Have some state-by-state ones! https://covidactnow.org/
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Mar 23, 2020 19:41
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I can see the motorway from my window, and it has never been flowing freely at 8am, and we arent even in full lockdown yet. Work today is gonna be spooky
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Mar 23, 2020 19:50
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I can see the motorway from my window, and it has never been flowing freely at 8am, and we arent even in full lockdown yet. Work today is gonna be spooky I285 in Atlanta has had no traffic at all. If you've ever lived or been down here, that should be kind of spooky.
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Mar 23, 2020 19:57
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https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1242154844057714688
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Mar 23, 2020 19:58
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So lets say he "restarts" the economy. Doesn't that just kill off all the people that would have voted for him?
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Mar 23, 2020 20:01
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I think Minnesota is next on the shutdown list, I just got sent home on one-hour notice. Literally, 'pack up your workstation and hook it up at home, here's the VPN login, good luck'. 
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Mar 23, 2020 20:01
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Ontario just shut down all non-essential work
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Mar 23, 2020 20:05
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WV is on a stay-at-home order effective 8pm tomorrow.
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Mar 23, 2020 20:10
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from my mailbox today 
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Mar 23, 2020 20:21
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ASAPI posted:So lets say he "restarts" the economy. Doesn't that just kill off all the people that would have voted for him? No.
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Mar 23, 2020 20:21
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Madurai posted:National and global casualty curves too remote and abstract a concept for you? Have some state-by-state ones! https://covidactnow.org/ the US is seriously hosed
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Mar 23, 2020 20:24
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It'll also kill off Biden voters
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Mar 23, 2020 20:40
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Internet Wizard posted:It'll also kill off Biden voters Too bad the primaries are effectively over.
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Mar 23, 2020 20:41
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Ok, "just" was a poor choice in words...
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Mar 23, 2020 20:48
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A lot of people are going to die while plenty of others will be ok with it because their taxes don’t go up.
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Mar 23, 2020 20:51
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https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1242172418099163137
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Mar 23, 2020 20:52
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ASAPI posted:Ok, "just" was a poor choice in words... A positively ghoulish choice.
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Mar 23, 2020 20:55
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EBB posted:from my mailbox today drat near every press release and public announcement I've seen starts with the words "President Trump." It's really creepy narcissism. I'm surprised it wasn't on the Census notifications.
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Mar 23, 2020 21:02
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https://twitter.com/notameadow/status/1242180805562171395?s=20
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Mar 23, 2020 21:08
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Imagine having Lt. Gens that do anything besides demand 24/7 powerpoints with no decision points.
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Mar 23, 2020 21:16
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Prop Wash posted:Imagine having Lt. Gens that do anything besides demand 24/7 powerpoints with no decision points. There have, with time, been a few “revolutionary” generals who are try to hack off every useless PowerPoint briefing they can, and absolutely minimizing use where otherwise necessary. You can just google search for it and you’ll find articles. The Flag ranks “discovers” this every 9-10 years in one form or another as far back as briefings+visual aids goes. And that’s a long goddamn way back.
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