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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race?
This poll is closed.
R. Allin-Khan 6 1.60%
R. Burgon 80 21.33%
D. Butler 72 19.20%
A. Rayner 35 9.33%
I. Murray 5 1.33%
P. Flaps 177 47.20%
Total: 375 votes
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thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Soylent Yellow posted:

https://assets.publishing.service.g...e_-_finalVF.pdf

Here's the official list of businesses allowed to remain open. It seems rather open-ended. In particular, I'm struggling to name a retail shop that couldn't creatively interpret the guidance to try staying open.

Pretty sure clothes, shoes, books, video games, stationery shops, etc etc are going to struggle.

But it looks like I *definitely* timed that car purchase correctly though. Might not get the missing parcel shelf for a while though.

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Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Yesterday I visited almost all the shops in my area that might normally be expected to have bogroll and I put a list on a local group (so people wouldn't waste time going to those that didn't have any) - and while it was great that a couple of people offered me personally a bog roll (I don't need any for now), the assumption was that I was looking for me.
Likewise, I reported that the one and only laundrette in the town has closed for the duration. Again, someone replied I hope that the community can sort that out for you. It's not FOR ME, I have laundry facilities and at the very least, I'm single and can do handwashing if necessary.

The interesting thing for me is that people are just assuming I am talking about my needs instead of trying to be helpful for everyone! No wonder the tories keep winning.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Soylent Yellow posted:

https://assets.publishing.service.g...e_-_finalVF.pdf

Here's the official list of businesses allowed to remain open. It seems rather open-ended. In particular, I'm struggling to name a retail shop that couldn't creatively interpret the guidance to try staying open.

Given Sports Direct u-turned from a backlash I'd say most retail stores would look at it and decide the PR hit isn't worth it for what is probably going to be way less business than usual.

Food delivery places staying open though so I can still get a pizza tonight.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

bionic vapour boy posted:

I think they're also going click & collect, so you can go into their shops but literally just to pick up an order, which seems... better?

Where I work couldn't feasibly do that I don't think, I'm hoping they'll realise they'd be losing money if they reopen. Obviously my concern is more, like, my own safety, plus the safety of construction sites remaining open, but they're only gonna think in terms of cash

Delivery and click-and-collect was always the majority of their business, they're basically Argos in a hard-hat. I had to pick some stuff up from them last week and they sent me a text saying "don't come in until we text you to say your order is ready" so presumably they're just going to actually enforce that (and take the impulse-buy power tools away from the waiting area).

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

Necrothatcher posted:

I'm hosting a Court of Appeal hearing from my living room over Skype this morning. Got 3 judges and 10 lawyers dialling in. Hope to gently caress it works!

lol good luck. I get why they're making an attempt with court of appeal cases but I'm trying to work out how to get a client to attend a small claims county court hearing tomorrow and wondering why hmcts is still cracking on with these little claims.

Oodles
Oct 31, 2005

Necrothatcher posted:

10 lawyers dialling in.

That'll be 15 different opinions then

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe
My wife's sushi company is trying to claim they're key workers because they provide food. Fucks sake. It's supermarket sushi, and no fucker is buying any right now anyway. Ridiculous

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few


All this is really shining a light on how much of a shut-in I am. Why would you freak out about not being able to go outside :downs:

madey
Sep 17, 2007

I saved the Olympics singlehandedly
Is there any goon recommended guidance on the Labour NEC CLP by-election?

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

madey posted:

Is there any goon recommended guidance on the Labour NEC CLP by-election?

I would also like this, already voted on leader and deputy but haven't done NEC yet

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




a pipe smoking dog posted:

lol good luck. I get why they're making an attempt with court of appeal cases but I'm trying to work out how to get a client to attend a small claims county court hearing tomorrow and wondering why hmcts is still cracking on with these little claims.

They're urgent family cases, otherwise I'd get them adjourned. I did a full dress rehearsal with all parties yesterday, so fingers crossed we get an effective hearing out of it.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
LabourList coverage of the NEC by-election slates, seems fairly even-handed: https://labourlist.org/2020/02/labours-nec-by-elections-just-got-even-more-complicated/

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Necrothatcher posted:

They're urgent family cases, otherwise I'd get them adjourned. I did a full dress rehearsal with all parties yesterday, so fingers crossed we get an effective hearing out of it.

I know that they don't use them in family court any more, but "full dress rehearsal" makes me think of you in a gown and wig swearing at Skype.

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum
npower just cancelled my smart meter installation for today. Understandable given the circumstances but I'm gutted because I only just moved in and need to figure out how spendy my bills are going to be.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




goddamnedtwisto posted:

I know that they don't use them in family court any more, but "full dress rehearsal" makes me think of you in a gown and wig swearing at Skype.

There was serious discussion about whether the lawyers should be wearing wigs and the judges should be robed. I was tempted to make everyone get all dressed up, but decided against it.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Email Dobbies just sent me. Wankers. (I can’t be arsed with imgur and the file is too big)

https://twitter.com/learnincurve11/status/1242378259742031872

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/SDMumford/status/1242342931798818816?s=19

Pantsmaster Bill
May 7, 2007

My van failed it’s MOT yesterday and is currently waiting for parts, hopefully they come in and the garage stays open otherwise I’m not sure what happens if I can’t get it passed! I don’t need it to go anywhere but does insurance stay valid if the MOT isn’t? Can I still park it on the street?

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

StarkingBarfish posted:

npower just cancelled my smart meter installation for today. Understandable given the circumstances but I'm gutted because I only just moved in and need to figure out how spendy my bills are going to be.

What I do:

Read your meter every few days.
Put on spreadsheet.
Check your tariff: my electric is approx 25p per day unit (incl VAT) and half that per night unit. + 25p per day standing charge.
Gas is a bit harder to work out.
Then you can calculate it.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Pantsmaster Bill posted:

My van failed it’s MOT yesterday and is currently waiting for parts, hopefully they come in and the garage stays open otherwise I’m not sure what happens if I can’t get it passed! I don’t need it to go anywhere but does insurance stay valid if the MOT isn’t? Can I still park it on the street?

I think the tax is the thing you need to keep up for on-road parking, you just can't drive it anywhere if it's not MOTed, other than to the garage to get it MOTed.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

mrpwase posted:

All this is really shining a light on how much of a shut-in I am. Why would you freak out about not being able to go outside :downs:

IKR, this is basically normal for 10 out of the last 12 months for me, with the exception of not going to visit friends in the evenings to play games, and we're making great strides on replacing that with Discord and aother online options.

I've seen all my friends on FB going stir-crazy at home and started wondering whether that's what already happened to me. Because they're describing how awful their future is and I'm like... it's fine, can I interest you in a parasocial relationship with a thousand hours of nerds playing D&D on youtube. It's like friends only you can pause it to make lunch.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Necrothatcher posted:

There was serious discussion about whether the lawyers should be wearing wigs and the judges should be robed. I was tempted to make everyone get all dressed up, but decided against it.

Seems like an opportunity for Snapchat For Business to launch, automatically superimposing wigs, gowns, business suits, or whatever dress is appropriate over the third-day underwear that most people are actually wearing after an extended bout of WFH.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003


It’s what they’ve done in Italy too, wonder how it’ll work out for us though

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1242353335220539392?s=19

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Pantsmaster Bill posted:

My van failed it’s MOT yesterday and is currently waiting for parts, hopefully they come in and the garage stays open otherwise I’m not sure what happens if I can’t get it passed! I don’t need it to go anywhere but does insurance stay valid if the MOT isn’t? Can I still park it on the street?

No official guidance on insurance or parking (but probably not because, well, you know why). Test centres *are* permitted to stay open though.

madey
Sep 17, 2007

I saved the Olympics singlehandedly

ronya posted:

LabourList coverage of the NEC by-election slates, seems fairly even-handed: https://labourlist.org/2020/02/labours-nec-by-elections-just-got-even-more-complicated/

Ta!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Seems like an opportunity for Snapchat For Business to launch, automatically superimposing wigs, gowns, business suits, or whatever dress is appropriate over the third-day underwear that most people are actually wearing after an extended bout of WFH.
I support this, if only for the number of old judges who will select cat ears instead of court dress by mistake and not bother checking their own feed.

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few


Guavanaut posted:

I support this, if only for the number of old judges who will select cat ears instead of court dress by mistake and not bother checking their own feed.

And enough of a cultural shift happens that when the pandemic is over judges just start wearing cat ears

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
Okay, interesting thought experiment time - what if there was a cure for COVID? Not a miracle cure, something with nasty side-effects that needs proper testing? Presumably governments would know about this, and I guarantee that the cowboys on either side of the Atlantic would *absolutely* put off lockdown as long as possible figuring if they can keep the death toll in the thousands or even tens of thousands while keeping the economy ticking over they'd look like absolute loving geniuses.

Then what if it turned out actually no, the cure isn't as effective as we thought, or the side effects are much worse, or we just don't have the ability to get enough of it out to stay ahead of the deaths? Wouldn't that then see them rapidly escalating lockdown (and Trump's fully-liquid brain continuing to babble about the cure)?

e: Actually if the cure was only available in limited quantities, you'd *definitely* see the rich who can get their hands on it telling everyone they need to get back to work to keep the number up.

I suppose, like all conspiracy theories, this is actually a desperate attempt to pretend that the people in charge are malicious rather than incompetent and negligent, because it's somehow comforting to think that someone wants you dead rather than is just too lazy to stop you dying. At least they're thinking about you.

goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 10:33 on Mar 24, 2020

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Yesterday I visited almost all the shops in my area that might normally be expected to have bogroll and I put a list on a local group (so people wouldn't waste time going to those that didn't have any) - and while it was great that a couple of people offered me personally a bog roll (I don't need any for now), the assumption was that I was looking for me.
Likewise, I reported that the one and only laundrette in the town has closed for the duration. Again, someone replied I hope that the community can sort that out for you. It's not FOR ME, I have laundry facilities and at the very least, I'm single and can do handwashing if necessary.

The interesting thing for me is that people are just assuming I am talking about my needs instead of trying to be helpful for everyone! No wonder the tories keep winning.

You realise that your "being helpful" is adding to the problem, right? Doing a tour of every shop in town is a great way to catch and spread the virus. People assume you must be looking for things for yourself as the alternative is bizarre given the current situation.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Okay, interesting thought experiment time - what if there was a cure for COVID? Not a miracle cure, something with nasty side-effects that needs proper testing? Presumably governments would know about this, and I guarantee that the cowboys on either side of the Atlantic would *absolutely* put off lockdown as long as possible figuring if they can keep the death toll in the thousands or even tens of thousands while keeping the economy ticking over they'd look like absolute loving geniuses.

Then what if it turned out actually no, the cure isn't as effective as we thought, or the side effects are much worse, or we just don't have the ability to get enough of it out to stay ahead of the deaths? Wouldn't that then see them rapidly escalating lockdown (and Trump's fully-liquid brain continuing to babble about the cure)?

e: Actually if the cure was only available in limited quantities, you'd *definitely* see the rich who can get their hands on it telling everyone they need to get back to work to keep the number up.

I suppose, like all conspiracy theories, this is actually a desperate attempt to pretend that the people in charge are malicious rather than incompetent and negligent, because it's somehow comforting to think that someone wants you dead rather than is just too lazy to stop you dying. At least they're thinking about you.

If there was a cure someone would be price gouging the poo poo out of it, probably.

Viruses are not the kind of thigns that respond easily to cures though. The 'cure' if it comes at all, will be in the form of a vaccine that prevents it from harming you in the first place, not a drug that takes it away once you have it.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Careful everyone sassassin is making a little list...

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Someone's abandonned a big orange suitcase just over the junction from my flat. Bit concerning.

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

What I do:

Read your meter every few days.
Put on spreadsheet.
Check your tariff: my electric is approx 25p per day unit (incl VAT) and half that per night unit. + 25p per day standing charge.
Gas is a bit harder to work out.
Then you can calculate it.

Yeah I know, it's me being lazy. The gas and leccy meters are just in different parts of the house and a hassle to read.

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

Necrothatcher posted:

I'm hosting a Court of Appeal hearing from my living room over Skype this morning. Got 3 judges and 10 lawyers dialling in. Hope to gently caress it works!

I can only imagine how poo poo judges are at using conference call software. So much feedback and non-muting.

Condolances

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


COVID-19 has given me a new appreciation of automatic doors.

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




thespaceinvader posted:

IKR, this is basically normal for 10 out of the last 12 months for me, with the exception of not going to visit friends in the evenings to play games, and we're making great strides on replacing that with Discord and aother online options.

A year ago I had a super serious flare up of Crohn's disease, and started 3 immuno-surpressant medicines, now down to 2, I spent most of the year self-isolating, extremely germophobic and anxious, and recently started trying to go back to normal, then Corona hits.

Part of me feels used to it and ready to just do it again, but part of me is ready to snap already. :suicide:

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Seems like an opportunity for Snapchat For Business to launch, automatically superimposing wigs, gowns, business suits, or whatever dress is appropriate over the third-day underwear that most people are actually wearing after an extended bout of WFH.

Apols for reddit
https://old.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/fntilv/priest_in_italy_live_streams_mass_activates/

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?

Bardeh posted:

My wife's sushi company is trying to claim they're key workers because they provide food. Fucks sake. It's supermarket sushi, and no fucker is buying any right now anyway. Ridiculous

You say that but my wife had to go to a neighbouring town yesterday and was very happy to get some waitrose sushi so I'm sure there's some demand, and the definition of key worker so broad that I'm not surprised (but understand the anger).

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

thespaceinvader posted:

If there was a cure someone would be price gouging the poo poo out of it, probably.

Viruses are not the kind of thigns that respond easily to cures though. The 'cure' if it comes at all, will be in the form of a vaccine that prevents it from harming you in the first place, not a drug that takes it away once you have it.

Antivirals do exist, and even if they're hit and miss they're what we need right now given a vaccine is of no use to someone actually infected. But don't get hung up on what the "cure" actually is - maybe it's just a treatment that suppresses the lung and heart damage, vastly improving survival rates. Like I say, even the *possibility* of such a drug existing would lead to competent-but-evil leaders acting in the way Johnson and (periodically) Trump have been.

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