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TheParadigm posted:What does the jammer plane do? Can it make enemy missiles miss? Is it able to foil ground station radars, or is it just there to nullify other awacs? We've been on the recieving end of OECM a few times, I think. Generally, it degrades radar detection and localization, as well as making missiles more inaccurate. It's a very solid "nice to have" but by no means essential.
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Radio Free Kobold posted:Maybe they'll get the chance to shine in Africa that they didn't get in the Kuriles. Hey, the Phantoms we had the last time we were in Africa did absurdly well for their original purchase price. Buy more Phantoms.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 20:35 |
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Must vote ISARM. Better radar in the air might have given the F6s a better chance against the Hornets last mission.
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 20:42 |
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Voting K&P, drones!
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 21:03 |
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ISARM
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 23:58 |
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I'm torn between K&P drones, and ISARM Mexican AWACS. ISARM seems to be winning, so I'm gonna be contrary and vote K&P.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 00:25 |
Voting will run for another 12 hours or so. Final negotiations are looking good. We're angling to get a prototype unit that some forlorn defense contractor is just itching to monetize.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 00:42 |
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Oh heck yeah the last procurement round is going to be some obscure piece of experimental military hardware? It'll fit right in!
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 00:56 |
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The K&P drones offer us radar and ELINT like the big Mexican bird, but also a recon package and we get more of them (3 vs 2). I think this should be our choice.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 01:04 |
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Gonna change my vote from ISARM to K&P. I know I extolled the virtues of AWACS, but I want to see what these little babies can do.Yooper posted:Voting will run for another 12 hours or so. oh hell yes, bring on the wAcKy prototypes
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 01:15 |
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Yooper posted:Voting will run for another 12 hours or so. Metal Gear?! Seriously though, I have high hopes for some boondoggle hilarity in round 4.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 01:44 |
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Yooper posted:Voting will run for another 12 hours or so. Okay, who decided it was a great idea to 3d print comanches and got caught?
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 01:57 |
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Tevery Best posted:The K&P drones offer us radar and ELINT like the big Mexican bird, but also a recon package and we get more of them (3 vs 2). I think this should be our choice. No air search radar. The big mexican bird is the only air search offer we have. Otherwise we rely on the 100nm cone radars of our eagles.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 02:34 |
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Voting ISARM If we can’t spot something on the ground, that sucks and we go home. If we can’t spot incoming bogies we get shot down.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 02:36 |
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TheDemon posted:No air search radar. The big mexican bird is the only air search offer we have. Otherwise we rely on the 100nm cone radars of our eagles. Alright, you convinced me isarm
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 02:55 |
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ISRAM
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 05:10 |
ISARM
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 06:44 |
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K&P. We chose a ground-strike force. So let's lean into it.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 09:51 |
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K&P The tankers are useful, but they're not fun generating assets. The theatre is massive, we've got to be realistic about what we can hit and what is simply out of range. If this means that we have to turn down missions that are too far away and we're just the meanest son of a bitch in a 700nm bubble then so be it. Now we can leverage this into our gimmick/ plan of operations We're limited by our legs and endurance, we've got to commit to some area to base from and we can't fly all across the continent. We are effectively the travelling air force circus which sets up shop locally for the month, mingles with the locals and delivers munitions and CAP, up until we run out of quests and move somewhere else to progress the story. The reason I back the K&P drone is that we want to leverage the most out of our strike force, we've got a ton of strike and we need to find a way to actually find the targets to hit with it. Otherwise all our very capable strike force will be doing is flying around blind, with no targets to hit. Now, this does mean that we are less capable A2A wise. But we have had played the last 4 theatres as an airforce that has the best A2A option, with full AWACS and tanker support, with the best BVR missile in the world and it got real, real formulaic towards the end. Literally ended up as us getting air superiority and then conducting offensive counter air v4.0, LGBs on runways, rinse and repeat. Let's play as the plucky strike force, helping the locals and then moving along to different environments. And airwise, if we don't have absolute air superiority then it means we can play with some more ground based assets. Which is so so much more interesting. Would love to have us purchase and plan some SAMs, air defense to defend our bases and outposts. Would love to have to purchase/ plan where our ground based radar is covering so our F15s can have some support. Would love to have to contract out or lease some A2A or AWACS cover, whilst our strike fighter screen tries to run through the gauntlet of air defenses. Would love to have to defined against mass ground assaults towards us and support our own. Would love to use some ground based artillery and missiles and see how that interacts and changes our assumptions when they're used against us It's all more interesting that having absolute air superiority, clearing the airforce, clearing the SAMs and then just blapping things at our leisure. Which I fear it would be if we just got air superiority again, A2A is just so cutthroat that you have to play the optimal way which is boring.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 12:14 |
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Copy that. I look forward to us acquiring Gjader 2.0 (3.0, 4.0, 5.0 as we lose them or move on).
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 12:37 |
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Second Rome, third Rome, fourth Rome, fifth Rome, Nth Rome...
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 12:44 |
By a single vote, Mr Crustacean sealed the deal. No word on if it comes with the cute little truck for drone tending. Finally, our last category. Point defense. BFLM has managed to snag a pre-production prototype. If this prototype has "teething issues" (as the salesman called it) we may be able to get a 2nd unit paired with it. ISARM purchased the Syrian SA-22 after the Syrians expressed displeasure at the effectiveness of the units. Not sure what happened there. Please note the altitudes that all of our options are effective.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 13:14 |
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BLFM I don't care if it's good or not, we need our own goddamn sword of Excalibur. Sure, it didn't work for the Belkans, but we can't be truly Ace Combat until we have an impractical laser weapon.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 13:16 |
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Definitely BLFM. It’s a frigging laser. Although I’m sure it will be vulnerable to saturation strikes due to having 3 km range and a dwell time to kill missives, so are all pd systems.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 13:29 |
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BFLM oh my word. e: plus that radar range is significant.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 13:29 |
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LASER! LASER! LASER!
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 13:32 |
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Radio Free Kobold posted:LASER! LASER! LASER! (LASER)
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 13:37 |
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I think the laser is a trap. I'm going Ivanov. What if we need to shoot down an
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 13:43 |
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slothrop posted:I think the laser is a trap. Silence, heretic!
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 13:53 |
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slothrop posted:I think the laser is a trap. I'm going Ivanov. What if we need to shoot down an I was very, very close to making this joke. But laser.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 13:55 |
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“Oh a Buk, that’s a solid option and has the longest range, I guess we should—wait, is that a loving laser?”
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 14:02 |
laser
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 14:08 |
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What kind of sad sack would vote for anything other than LASERS.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 14:25 |
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BFLM. Yes it's probably a trap but frickin' laser.
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Pirate Radar posted:“Oh a Buk, that’s a solid option and has the longest range, I guess we should—wait, is that a loving laser?” I want to propose a title change. Strike Command: wait, is that a loving laser?
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 14:32 |
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Well...if nothing else, we can confirm that laser weaponry works as intended in CMO. And it does have a very nice radar, which is kinda important. If nothing else, it means we can divert other assets to intercept threats. BFLM for me, then.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 14:35 |
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We definitely need a good radar with our lack of awacs. Plus, LASER.
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 15:00 |
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BFLM The future's so bright we'll need shades!
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 15:29 |
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BFLM It has easily the best ground radar, it'll allow us to do some ground based control , which within its radius /our home turf can be as good as an AWACS. Will also provide us a vital early warning radar so we can scramble our fighters to intercept ant bogies incoming. It also has a laser. Very much want to use a laser
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# ? Mar 24, 2020 16:30 |
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BFLM Can't wait to lase OPFOR's cockpits and dazzle the crew. Is this an air rave?
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