|
So Kane, WHAT you big red freak, WHAT you ever won a gold medal? WHAT I didn't think so. WHAT And as for whether or not I'll fight you, WHAT in the words of popular singer Shakira: WHAT "whenever, wherever"! WHAT ... what, you people have never heard of Shakira? WHAT That's because you're from Texas. WHA-BOOOOOOO
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 08:26
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 3, 2024 18:24 |
|
|
I still remember the crowd chanting "You suck dick!" at Angle and his response being, "Your mother taught me how!" Which honestly just raises even more questions.
|
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 08:59
|
|
|
TheKingslayer posted:I still remember the crowd chanting "You suck dick!" at Angle and his response being, "Your mother taught me how!" Hey, the dicksucking factory doesn't pay as well as it used to, so my mum had to take on students on the side. My serious question: Have there been any famous, or notable examples of wrestlers being punished/depushed/humiliated/etc. by Vince and management for going off script in promos? Or the other way, has a wrestler gone off script, and surprise surprise, their authentic natural words have gotten them more over. And did WWE claim that they wrote those words/that was always the way it was meant to go/etc. and reward the wrestler for their initiative?
|
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 09:31
|
|
|
Wasn't entirely a promo, but going off script got Big Cass fired.
|
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 09:40
|
|
|
In a roundabout way Flair getting hammered and going way off script cost JR his job.
|
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 09:44
|
|
|
Dusty putting his hand out to shut Stephanie up got him taken permanently off TV
|
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 09:46
|
|
|
They punished his kids by derailing their angle against The Shield too. Now both Dustin and Cody are gone from WWE so looks like that decision had no negative repercussions for Vince McMahon! waits impatiently for Wednesday, my Judas
|
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 12:52
|
|
|
Speaking of Angle, did he do anything worthwhile after returning a few years ago? I remember it as he's the new Raw General Manager, then he's Jason Jordan's father as a rib because Angle once slept with a black woman, then Jordan gets injured to the point of possible retirement, then Angle joins the Shield for a week due to Roman's leukemia resurfacing, then he loses to Baron Corbin in a retirement match at Wrestlemania.
|
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 13:22
|
|
|
MassRafTer posted:The Nexus was a huge turd waiting to happen because WWE developmental at that time sucked and all of the talent basically sucked. Really sucked. Half of the faction was just useless. I agree pretty much 100%, but I do think if you take away Young, Tarver and Otunga (and improve the booking, which, obv, is always the issue here), they could have had a pretty good faction for quite a while. Even without Bryan, Slater and Sheffield would have been a decent "annoying little guy and big, muscular bad worker" tag team, Gabriel could have been a solid IC/US-level guy by using Being In The Nexus as a way of getting heat in order to cover for his not-yet-there persona, and then, like you said, have Barrett at the top as a protected guy and the talker for the other three.
|
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 13:23
|
|
|
Crowe: WHAT Undertaker: Say what if you sleep with your sister. Crowe: WHA-BOOOOO Was also a good one and a highlight in Taker's otherwise boring and plodding promos. What was the Dusty and Stephanie thing? Were they doing a promo for some reason?
|
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 13:41
|
|
|
Pope Corky the IX posted:Speaking of Angle, did he do anything worthwhile after returning a few years ago? I remember it as he's the new Raw General Manager, then he's Jason Jordan's father as a rib because Angle once slept with a black woman, then Jordan gets injured to the point of possible retirement, then Angle joins the Shield for a week due to Roman's leukemia resurfacing, then he loses to Baron Corbin in a retirement match at Wrestlemania. But otherwise you’re spot on. It was a complete bust
|
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 13:41
|
|
|
Admiral Joeslop posted:Crowe: WHAT Wait, Solomon Crowe slept with his sister?
|
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 13:54
|
|
|
Admiral Joeslop posted:Crowe: WHAT Dusty was going back and forth with HHH and they had a stare down. Stephanie put her face between theirs on the hard camera to leech the heat and Dusty did a talk to the hand on her.
|
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 14:26
|
|
|
Lamuella posted:Wait, Solomon Crowe slept with his sister? It was actually his cousin, Dewey.
|
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 15:42
|
|
|
TheKingslayer posted:Dusty was going back and forth with HHH and they had a stare down. Stephanie put her face between theirs on the hard camera to leech the heat and Dusty did a talk to the hand on her. https://youtu.be/EpmPBMN-CJE “You crossed a line old man!” Stephanie really should have gotten out of the way and let them have their staredown, but y’know. GOTTA GET HEEEEEEAT.
|
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 15:53
|
|
|
Stephanie is the personification of a spoiled brat rich kid that only has anything because of her father and nepotism. Shane is also bad but he's not around as often.
|
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 15:55
|
|
|
Admiral Joeslop posted:Stephanie is the personification of a spoiled brat rich kid that only has anything because of her father and nepotism.
|
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 16:02
|
|
|
Admiral Joeslop posted:Shane is also bad but he's not around as often. Only because Fox told him to GTFO. How many months did we have to put up with THE BEST IN THE WORLD SHAAAAAAAAAAANE MAC-MAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON taking up multiple segments a week? 
|
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 16:21
|
|
|
god, there is very little in wrestling as sweet to me as the two sons of a son of a plumber getting revenge over the man who dressed the best wrestling mind of a generation in polka dots.
|
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 16:56
|
|
|
Remember when Shane McMahon pinned Roman Reigns
|
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 21:09
|
|
|
Flight Bisque posted:It was actually his cousin, Dewey. I'm not saying that AEW should hire Walt Goggins to play Boyd Crowder setting up a scheme/crossing paths with Jake the Snake and Lance "Murderhawk" Archer, but.... actually gently caress it, I am saying that. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Mar 25, 2020 |
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 23:09
|
|
|
Jerusalem posted:I'm not saying that AEW should hire Walt Goggins to play Boyd Crowder setting up to a scheme/crossing paths with Jake the Snake and Lance "Murderhawk" Archer, but.... actually gently caress it, I am saying that. Now THAT'S an Exalted One.
|
|
#
?
Mar 24, 2020 23:34
|
|
|
Admiral Joeslop posted:Stephanie is the personification of a spoiled brat rich kid that only has anything because of her father and nepotism. Hey pal, Stephanie herself and many people who have worked for her father and now her for years say Vince was harder on her than anyone else specifically to show there was no favoritism so she’s where she’s at not only because she was the best but she was the best by a whole lot
|
|
#
?
Mar 25, 2020 05:57
|
|
|
Benne posted:Remember when Shane McMahon pinned Roman Reigns remember in early 2009 when Orton was the hottest act they'd had in years and Shane whipped his rear end, then he lost clean at 'Mania, just to ensure they didn't get Randy way more over than he's been before or since.
|
|
#
?
Mar 25, 2020 10:59
|
|
|
I honestly remembered Shane as someone that, while taking spots on the card that could have gone to others, still lost at the end of his feuds and willing to put people over. At least before he came back in 2014. He's been absolutely insufferable ever since. And did Fox really order WWE to take Shane off Smackdown?
|
|
#
?
Mar 25, 2020 12:53
|
|
|
All of you have shown me the light, Stephanie rules and Vince drools. I saw a week or two ago that HHH is no longer in charge of talent? What happened there?
|
|
#
?
Mar 25, 2020 13:11
|
|
|
Pope Corky the IX posted:I honestly remembered Shane as someone that, while taking spots on the card that could have gone to others, still lost at the end of his feuds and willing to put people over. At least before he came back in 2014. He's been absolutely insufferable ever since. Why could an actual wrestler be in those spots? Also, it was terrible how he'd take dumb bumps because he knew he wouldn't be off with baseline pay if something went wrong
|
|
#
?
Mar 25, 2020 13:44
|
|
|
Randaconda posted:Why could an actual wrestler be in those spots? Not sure what you're asking here. Randaconda posted:Also, it was terrible how he'd take dumb bumps because he knew he wouldn't be off with baseline pay if something went wrong Oh, I absolutely agree. It was incredibly selfish as well because plenty of people would come away from a PPV remembering Shane jumping off a grain silo over anything else that happened on the show.
|
|
#
?
Mar 25, 2020 13:50
|
|
|
Pope Corky the IX posted:Not sure what you're asking here. I meant why couldn't a real wrestler be in Shane's spot? He's an incredibly poor wrestler, he can't talk, and he doesn't look like a star. Why not use an actual wrestler
|
|
#
?
Mar 25, 2020 13:59
|
|
|
Randaconda posted:I meant why couldn't a real wrestler be in Shane's spot? He's an incredibly poor wrestler, he can't talk, and he doesn't look like a star. Why not use an actual wrestler Oh, I agree with you. I meant that I didn't remember him being as selfish back then compared to the last six years. He still had no business in most of those feuds outside Vince and Test.
|
|
#
?
Mar 25, 2020 14:04
|
|
|
I gotta get into AEW. They even have Jake the Sanem now. I did a watch party of Beyond the Mat with my best friend who's not a wrestling nerd. The rush of nostalgia and sadness was intense. From explaining Terry Funk's dozen retirements and who the gently caress Dennis Stamp is, to explaining Jake's childhood.
|
|
#
?
Mar 25, 2020 14:29
|
|
|
The Wrestling What-If thread got me thinking: what happened with Chris Hero/Kassius Ohno? Dude went from Indy Darling to Hopeful NXT prospect hampered by injury/fat, back to grizzled Indy Darling, back to NXT gatekeeper? Could he not stay healthy and that’s why he is where he is now (which is what, exactly?)? Edit: admittedly, I stopped watching WWE/NXT a while ago so I haven’t been keeping tabs.
|
|
#
?
Mar 25, 2020 14:32
|
|
|
BodyMassageMachine posted:The Wrestling What-If thread got me thinking: what happened with Chris Hero/Kassius Ohno? Dude went from Indy Darling to Hopeful NXT prospect hampered by injury/fat, back to grizzled Indy Darling, back to NXT gatekeeper? he's quietly transitioned into more of a coach/trainer role with NXT and gets a good enough salary to not have to keep up the hustle of working indies anymore. He was most recently wrestling for NXT UK which im sure was just something he requested so he could remain a global guy and whenever NXT Japan starts up i would not be shocked to see him as one of the starting players for that.
|
|
#
?
Mar 25, 2020 14:48
|
|
|
Admiral Joeslop posted:I saw a week or two ago that HHH is no longer in charge of talent? What happened there? Yes and no. He got a promotion to a position that puts him more or less in charge of large-scale, big-vision talent decisions, but takes him off the face-to-face beat he was on.
|
|
#
?
Mar 25, 2020 17:02
|
|
|
Pope Corky the IX posted:Oh, I agree with you. I meant that I didn't remember him being as selfish back then compared to the last six years. He still had no business in most of those feuds outside Vince and Test. I haven't seen the match in ages but I think people are/were generally pretty happy with his stuff with Steve Blackman too, right? It seemed like that with Blackman and Test he just wanted to put over his mates who were otherwise fairly bland wrestlers. Some might count his infamous match with Kurt Angle too, though in hindsight I don't think Angle needed it at all and also the match was unnecessarily violent (ie both men nearly died). I liked Shane because he jumped off stuff like an idiot (I used to imitate his stage jump at Backlash 2001 onto bouncy castles across the UK) but I myself started to raise an eyebrow when he ended up feuding with the recently unmasked Kane in 2003. I know Kane has never really been "good" per se, but it seemed like they were going to make him into a super-dominant monster heel after he lost his mask and went into a blind rage, only for them to follow it up with... a Shane McMahon feud, also featuring Vince and Linda, because he didn't fit into the main event scene of Triple H and Goldberg. At the time it made Kane seem a lot less important again after the big shock of him unmasking... though the makeup fail probably didn't help.
|
|
#
?
Mar 25, 2020 18:23
|
|
|
disaster pastor posted:Yes and no. He got a promotion to a position that puts him more or less in charge of large-scale, big-vision talent decisions, but takes him off the face-to-face beat he was on. it's definitely not a promotion. he got demoted to a different executive VP position where he is forced to do
|
|
#
?
Mar 25, 2020 18:50
|
|
|
What are you talking about? HHHs strategy of developing talent by “sign all the famous successful indie talent and then waste them” was a smashing success!
|
|
#
?
Mar 25, 2020 18:59
|
|
|
Why was the Summerslam 92 card overhauled so much. Watching old episodes of Superstars the feuds by May of 92 are: Bret/HBK, Undertaker/Berserker, Warrior/Papa Shango, Savage/Flair, Nails/Bossman, Tatanka/Martel, Repo Man/Bulldog, Beverley Brothers/Road Warriors. None of these matches happened at Summerslam 92. I understand Bret/Bulldog for obvious reasons but was there a reason why everything else was changed?
|
|
#
?
Mar 25, 2020 19:25
|
|
|
oldpainless posted:What are you talking about? HHHs strategy of developing talent by “sign all the famous successful indie talent and then waste them” was a smashing success! Was that him, or Vince not watching NXT then just bringing them into the main roster with the normal WWE bullshit?
|
|
#
?
Mar 25, 2020 19:32
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 3, 2024 18:24 |
|
|
Are Marshall and Ross Von Erich any good?
|
|
#
?
Mar 25, 2020 21:05
|
|