Final Fantasy VII Remake - the whole plot would fall apart if cloud was ugly

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ImpAtom: May 24, 2007

Grizzled Patriarch posted:

Is any place offering a pre-order on this for cheaper than $60? Amazon usually does with new releases but they appear to not have this up for preorder at all somehow.

Amazon is currently in emergency mode due to the pandemic.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 18:19

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 07:22

Grizzled Patriarch: Mar 27, 2014; These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.

ImpAtom posted:

Amazon is currently in emergency mode due to the pandemic.

Yeah, just thought it was odd since they're still doing preorders for games that come out after this one and Walmart / SE are still filling orders.

Trying to have a quarantine nostalgia trip without giving Walmart money if I can avoid it.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 18:27

MonsieurChoc: Oct 12, 2013; Every species can smell its own extinction.

Elentor posted:

My PS4 should arrive any day now I'm so excited.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iwBM_YB1sE

# ? Mar 25, 2020 18:46

Happy Noodle Boy: Jul 3, 2002

I'm going to use Jessie for the entire game.

# ? Mar 25, 2020 19:13

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# ? Mar 25, 2020 19:18

Agents are GO!: Dec 29, 2004

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# ? Mar 26, 2020 09:33

Bregor: May 31, 2013; People are idiots, Leslie.

Agents are GO! posted:

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FROZ

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# ? Mar 26, 2020 14:45

infraboy: Aug 15, 2002; Phungshwei!!!!!!1123

Is it too early to speculate that they would do an FF8 remake? They could probably use a similar combat system instead of the old draw system, the game did have some spectacular settings and soundtrack as well.

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:13

Zedsdeadbaby: Jun 14, 2008; You have been called out, in the ways of old.

infraboy posted:

Is it too early to speculate that they would do an FF8 remake? They could probably use a similar combat system instead of the old draw system, the game did have some spectacular settings and soundtrack as well.

Oh boy. Not for many years. A decade at minimum.

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:16

zakharov: Nov 30, 2002; Tater Love

remake FFX, or just add cheats to get ultimate weapons without the incredible unfun end-game sidequests

or fighting the Dark Aeons in the remaster

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:18

stev: Jan 22, 2013; Please be excited.

infraboy posted:

Is it too early to speculate that they would do an FF8 remake? They could probably use a similar combat system instead of the old draw system, the game did have some spectacular settings and soundtrack as well.

I really don't see that happening. VIII is great, but it doesn't have one tenth of the mainstream popularity that VII has.

Non gamers hear Final Fantasy VII and go "oh yeah, Cloud, big sword goth guy, I remember that". I don't think any other FF game would garner the same sort of familiarity. I can't see Square pouring the same level of time and resources into any of the others.

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:21

Elentor: Dec 14, 2004; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

I played the FF7R Demo :dance:

stev posted:

I really don't see that happening. VIII is great, but it doesn't have one tenth of the mainstream popularity that VII has.

Non gamers hear Final Fantasy VII and go "oh yeah, Cloud, big sword goth guy, I remember that". I don't think any other FF game would garner the same sort of familiarity. I can't see Square pouring the same level of time and resources into any of the others.

Not to sound like a broken record, but, Vagrant Stor-

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:22

grieving for Gandalf: Apr 22, 2008

FF8 is the one that actually needs it

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:23

Sakurazuka: Jan 24, 2004; NANI?

Can't polish a turd

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:23

Professor Beetus: Apr 12, 2007; They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

The low effort FF8 remaster is all we're getting, that's for drat sure.

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:32

esperterra: Mar 24, 2010; SHINee's back

They'll demake it to look like the V and VI mobile ports.

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:33

precision: May 7, 2006; by VideoGames

An FF9 demake would be the tits

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:37

esperterra: Mar 24, 2010; SHINee's back

IX is practically perfect in every single way. It and VI should be left alone.

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:38

Elentor: Dec 14, 2004; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

esperterra posted:

IX is practically perfect in every single way. It and VI should be left alone.

I keep telling people this but no one believes me :negative:

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:38

precision: May 7, 2006; by VideoGames

I agree about 6

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:39

Ace Transmuter: May 19, 2017; I like video games

esperterra posted:

IX is practically perfect in every single way. It and VI should be left alone.

I mean you could make the battles move a lot faster.

You could also make the WoR not suck but that's just my two cents hot take

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:42

Kheldarn: Feb 17, 2011

Elentor posted:

I played the FF7R Demo

https://i.imgur.com/MwP9V5t.mp4 :peanut:

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:45

esperterra: Mar 24, 2010; SHINee's back

Ace Transmuter posted:

I mean you could make the battles move a lot faster.

You could also make the WoR not suck but that's just my two cents hot take

The remaster lets you speed poo poo up, which is good enough for me!

Also WoR owns.

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:45

Grizzled Patriarch: Mar 27, 2014; These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.

IX is my favorite FF game and it's drat near perfect except for the slow battle speed, which the console / PC port fixed with an easy fast forward button.

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:47

Ace Transmuter: May 19, 2017; I like video games

esperterra posted:

Also WoR owns.

If by "owns" you mean "destroys all the pacing and character interaction that made the WoB so excellent" then sure

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:48

precision: May 7, 2006; by VideoGames

The remastered 8 and 9 are great

I've got 8 on my Switch Lite and besides looking fantastic resolution wise, the x3 speed means Drawing 100 spells is only slightly very annoying. Plus it's on sale for like 10 bucks

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:49

esperterra: Mar 24, 2010; SHINee's back

Ace Transmuter posted:

If by "owns" you mean "destroys all the pacing and character interaction that made the WoB so excellent" then sure

I never felt like the WoR destroyed the pacing, and there's plenty of story to be had for where you are in the game. It's like a third of the way through and is the big tragedy that leads into the climax-- gather your team back up, or not, and go defeat the bad dude.

WoR has so much good character poo poo in it. Some characters kinda get the shaft, but meh it's a big cast and it's amazing each character (barring like, Mog and Umaro) gets as much as they do.

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:53

precision: May 7, 2006; by VideoGames

I've always thought the WoR actually had better plot stuff generally. The stuff with Locke and Celes anyway

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:56

pezzie: Apr 11, 2003; everytime someone says a seasonal anime is GOAT

Just watch the best anime ever

WoR owns

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:58

Sakurazuka: Jan 24, 2004; NANI?

RPGs don't have pacing because I spend hours grinding poo poo anyway

# ? Mar 26, 2020 21:59

esperterra: Mar 24, 2010; SHINee's back

Terra's whole thing is amazing, too. Most of the core characters other than, like, Sabin tbh, get some hefty story poo poo in WoR.

# ? Mar 26, 2020 22:00

MonsieurChoc: Oct 12, 2013; Every species can smell its own extinction.

They already said they want to remake FFV, which I'm fine with it they keep it super cartoony and add a built-in Fiesta feature.

# ? Mar 26, 2020 22:13

stev: Jan 22, 2013; Please be excited.

I want a gritty as gently caress VI remaster. The cartoony look of every existing port doesn't suit it at all.

# ? Mar 26, 2020 22:15

Ace Transmuter: May 19, 2017; I like video games

WoR for me is much better in concept than I'm execution. FFVI is, conceptually, about the strength of community. So turning the game into Celes building the party back up to take down Kefka together (while everyone else has either given up, moved on, or decided they were going to do poo poo on their own) was a good decision. The non-linearity combined with the cart limitations ruined it, though.

So while yes, some characters do get interesting (if optional) moments and some of them even get real character development, the problem is it all happens in isolation. Every character does their thing essentially on their own, which is not only so much less interesting and engaging but also actively contradictory to the game's main theme.

Sabin gets, I think, maybe one line in the entire Gerad saga, if that. That, I think, is emblematic of the problem with the WoR.

# ? Mar 26, 2020 22:16

Blueberry Pancakes: Aug 18, 2012; Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Ace Transmuter posted:

Sabin gets, I think, maybe one line in the entire Gerad saga, if that. That, I think, is emblematic of the problem with the WoR.

That would be because Sabin is an optional character to pick up. The game just puts him squarely in your path, so most people wind up getting him before they go to Edgar.

# ? Mar 26, 2020 23:19

Schwartzcough: Aug 12, 2009; Don't tease the Octopus, kids!

Blueberry Pancakes posted:

That would be because Sabin is an optional character to pick up. The game just puts him squarely in your path, so most people wind up getting him before they go to Edgar.

I mean, I think that's the point. Since almost every character is optional, they didn't program in different scenario variations based on who you had in your party (probably wasn't room on the cart), resulting in very little personal interaction. But I still love the WoR for all its warts.

Schwartzcough fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Mar 26, 2020

# ? Mar 26, 2020 23:25

Ace Transmuter: May 19, 2017; I like video games

Schwartzcough posted:

I mean, I think that's the point.

# ? Mar 26, 2020 23:30

Hellioning: Jun 27, 2008

Blueberry Pancakes posted:

That would be because Sabin is an optional character to pick up. The game just puts him squarely in your path, so most people wind up getting him before they go to Edgar.

Ace Transmuter posted:

The non-linearity combined with the cart limitations ruined it, though.

# ? Mar 26, 2020 23:46

Eddain: May 6, 2007

Sakurazuka posted:

Can't polish a turd

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