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Fader Movitz posted:Wtf is a "framtidsforskare"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkxbEfZmZFo
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Fader Movitz posted:Wtf is a "framtidsforskare"? Det är ett finare ord för spågubbe.
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Mar 23, 2020 21:01
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Read some article by a future tech science guy who's job was flying around the world and advising rich people. He said that almost all seminars he held in in 2019 devolved onto "How can I get the mercs at my doomsday bunker compound to obey me after society collapses and money loses all value". Ideas floated was "control collars" and a food supply vault controlled by the billionaire.
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Mar 23, 2020 21:14
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Katt posted:Ideas floated was "control collars" and a food supply vault controlled by the billionaire. Also robots.
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Mar 23, 2020 21:34
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Katt posted:Read some article by a future tech science guy who's job was flying around the world and advising rich people. He said that almost all seminars he held in in 2019 devolved onto "How can I get the mercs at my doomsday bunker compound to obey me after society collapses and money loses all value". As have been discussed in GIP, one mans bunker can easily be transformed to one mans tomb by the use of construction vehicles. Barricading the door and making GBS threads in the air intake was also mentioned.
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Mar 23, 2020 21:40
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Cardiac posted:making GBS threads in the air intake Sounds like a community effort if it's a huge fan powered systems but a worthy undertaking.
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Mar 23, 2020 21:44
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https://twitter.com/fiskargubbe/status/1242081504773189642
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Mar 24, 2020 11:12
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Katt posted:Sounds like a community effort if it's a huge fan powered systems but a worthy undertaking. Future archaeologist: "Hey guys, look what I found in this ancient civilization's toilet!"
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Mar 24, 2020 11:32
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Katt posted:Sounds like a community effort if it's a huge fan powered systems but a worthy undertaking.
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Mar 24, 2020 11:45
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Katt posted:Scandinavia Corona fight chart: Scandinavia Corona fight chart: Denmark: 1591 Sweden: 2286 Norway: 2768 Baltic Corona fight chart: Latvia: 197 Lithuania: 203 Estonia: 369 Russia: 495 Finland: 792
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Mar 24, 2020 18:47
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sweden trying to catch up, hmmm
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Mar 25, 2020 01:13
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With our weak responses to this crisis we sure are trying hard to win this one
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Mar 25, 2020 01:45
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V. Illych L. posted:sweden trying to catch up, hmmm I suspect that all the big brain Stockholmers deciding that nothing ends this ski season played a tiny part.
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Mar 25, 2020 05:41
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Katt posted:Scandinavia Corona fight chart: You should count the dead too, that number is more comparable and not as skewed by different national testing strategies. And normalize for population. Edit: Normalized count for population. Zudgemud fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Mar 25, 2020 |
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Mar 25, 2020 07:24
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Zudgemud posted:You should count the dead too, that number is more comparable and not as skewed by different national testing strategies. Sounds a bit gruesome. I'm considering changing it to total number of infected.
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Mar 25, 2020 07:29
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MiddleOne posted:I suspect that all the big brain Stockholmers deciding that nothing ends this ski season played a tiny part. You are saying that blowing up the bridges in Stockholm and blocking the tunnels would do wonders to contain Covid19?
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Mar 25, 2020 08:51
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Cardiac posted:You are saying that blowing up the bridges in Stockholm and blocking the tunnels would do wonders to contain Covid19? Unless if you have a job for me that pays like the one I have now? Or do you have an idea on how to also decimate the non-08 kommuner that have the same loving nightmare situation going on? Or idk something of substance that addresses the wet fart response that may feel that the government is taking to all of this? What’s that, you don’t?? Just
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teen witch posted:Unless if you have a job for me that pays like the one I have now? Or do you have an idea on how to also decimate the non-08 kommuner that have the same loving nightmare situation going on? Or idk something of substance that addresses the wet fart response that may feel that the government is taking to all of this? Reminder to self, irony is not always obvious Well, we all have to make sacrifices. Blowing up the channel bridge to Skanör/Falsterbo would at least take care of the wealthy people running away to their summer cottages.
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Mar 25, 2020 10:44
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its funny how store staff has to check my age at self-checkout when i buy an energy drink but they still have the open salad bar, lösviktsgodis etc. also all the buffets are still open love to be protected by my big nanny state
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Mar 25, 2020 11:34
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42,847 unemployed March 9 to 23 despite massive government assistance.
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Mar 25, 2020 11:41
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Grevling posted:Well now Norwegian did get help (they all ought to just be nationalized), how has your friend reacted? Sorry for late reply! He was real happy at first, but now that he has become temporarily laid off he's gone into a deep spiral of depression  He went on a rant yesterday to me during a breakdown about how he doesn't care if anyone dies or anyone suffers because of this, he's worried about the future of his career and the careers of those who have recently graduated and recently come into the job market. I work in a NGO and we're lucky enough to not have our economy affected by this so far, but I'm going to quit this work in June and start studying again in August. My hope was to get some sort of summer job, but it doesn't seem like a realistic dream at the moment considering that I live in Oslo and all my trade skills are basically being a glorified receptionist and secretary at the office. It's been fun and valuable and it's definitely something I like doing; it's just impossible for me to compete with anyone else at the moment.
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Mar 25, 2020 13:07
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Mercrom posted:its funny how store staff has to check my age at self-checkout when i buy an energy drink but they still have the open salad bar, lösviktsgodis etc. also all the buffets are still open In an ironic twist that's actually not law either. There's neither laws against selling energy drinks to minors nor laws demanding ages be checked upon selling. Stalins Moustache posted:He was real happy at first, but now that he has become temporarily laid off he's gone into a deep spiral of depression   At least public sector temp work is kicking in Sweden right now. MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 13:23 on Mar 25, 2020 |
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Mar 25, 2020 13:21
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Zudgemud posted:You should count the dead too, that number is more comparable and not as skewed by different national testing strategies. And normalize for population.
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Mar 25, 2020 15:01
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A Buttery Pastry posted:We're early enough in the outbreak here in Scandinavia that deaths are not a great metric, since there are simply not enough people dying that random chance can't massively affect the numbers. In any case, the most relevant metric is the growth rate, not the total/per capita case numbers. A country where the daily case growth rate is 35% (like the US) is gonna catch up to one with a 10% growth rate extremely quickly, no matter how far along in the outbreak either is. But to know the growth rate one would need either mandatory testing or a continous randomized testing of the population, and I'm not sure we have that either.
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Mar 25, 2020 15:40
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Also, yesterday the local hospitals asked our cell and Molecular Biology Department if we could make disinfectant for them as they were running out. An e-mail was sent out for the last component needed, hydrogen peroxide. Hopefully they could get that.
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Mar 25, 2020 15:47
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If you're unemployed check with farmers in the vicinity. They have a massive need for labour now that they cannot employ seasonal workers from abroad.
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Mar 25, 2020 15:58
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There go the written exams. Though that was to be expected.
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Mar 25, 2020 17:04
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Mordekai posted:If you're unemployed check with farmers in the vicinity. They have a massive need for labour now that they cannot employ seasonal workers from abroad. Employ to do what? shovel snow? 
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Mar 25, 2020 19:09
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Zudgemud posted:But to know the growth rate one would need either mandatory testing or a continous randomized testing of the population, and I'm not sure we have that either.
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Mar 25, 2020 19:21
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Mordekai posted:If you're unemployed check with farmers in the vicinity. They have a massive need for labour now that they cannot employ seasonal workers from abroad. Thanks for the tip, I need an unskilled job badly. I've found several notices already. Stalins Moustache posted:Sorry for late reply! That sucks, he sounds like a bit of an rear end in a top hat but I hope he gets out of that slump. If you're looking for a summer job I've seen several job listings in agriculture and I'm sure more will be put out. This one for example is in Ski so you can probably get there from Oslo, I'm going to apply for that and a few more: https://arbeidsplassen.nav.no/stillinger/stilling/8e6e2360-81e0-41aa-b739-6d0fb1e76109 Goon project: someone try to get this job buying F-35s https://arbeidsplassen.nav.no/stillinger/stilling/f7298fef-7ba0-492d-8dee-f3df70800435 Grevling fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Mar 25, 2020 |
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Mar 25, 2020 19:24
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Looks like Sweden has passed Norway's current death toll in a single day in Stockholm alone. e: Also for unskilled jobs, there's delivering groceries to old people and quarantined people. Probably notifying by phone and leaving it at the door with no actual sharing of the same space if I were to guess. Some of my students are doing that, might be a job that's mainly going to teens. But if you've got a car or a bike or something like that it might also be worth checking into, there's definitely going to be a need for people doing this. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Mar 25, 2020 |
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Mar 25, 2020 20:09
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Obviously anything less than that is gonna result in real uncertainty, but presumably day to day growth happens in similar populations in terms of how many are gonna end up with a severe enough case to actually get tested? Outside the initial parts of the outbreak where individual behavior isn't averaged out. Assuming you maintain a consistent testing criteria, like for example only testing people who end up needing hospitalization, then your level of underreporting should remain relatively stable - making growth numbers relatively valid. Yes that would also be a decent alternative assuming the similar healthcare systems make similar hospitalization judgements. Now we just need to dig up that data though.
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Mar 25, 2020 20:35
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MiddleOne posted:In an ironic twist that's actually not law either. There's neither laws against selling energy drinks to minors nor laws demanding ages be checked upon selling. Plenty of work for us in health care, ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha  Zudgemud posted:But to know the growth rate one would need either mandatory testing or a continous randomized testing of the population, and I'm not sure we have that either. We don't. I came down with a dry cough two weeks ago, and despite me working in healthcare at a major hospital the response was "We only test those that have either been exposed to a known Covid patient or have recently traveled to an affected area". Basically we have no idea how many are affected because we aren't testing enough people to know.
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Mar 25, 2020 22:56
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Soon two weeks working from home with home schooling and home kindergarten on top and I'm starting to become desperate. Guess my productivity has fallen 50%. Also social distancing, so the kids can't play with their friends and we can't visit grand parents and so on. Brakkesyken is getting real. Please someone find a solution to this madness that doesn't include barricading ourselves in our homes forever!
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Mar 25, 2020 23:28
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My wife is from China and has been looking at the Swedish respone to this and being all "what the gently caress are you morons doing?". She works in sorta health care related stuff and is pretty much single handedly responsible for this: https://news.ki.se/collaboration-increases-opportunities-for-covid-19-testing Her bosses back in China said that the situation looks so bad in Sweden that they want to donate PPE-equipment to hospitals here. Meanwhile SL is making sure literally everyone in Stockholm will be infected by cramming them all in overcrowded buses.
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Mar 25, 2020 23:33
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Yeah, the Finnish health officials here have been scratching their heads over the Swedish reaction to the pandemic. Are you guys in denial or something? Here the government is putting the region around Helsinki in quarantine from the rest of the country, and you guys are like "hey, go enjoy your ski trips, and don't forget to meet your parents during Easter!" I know Swedes are pretty relaxed and carefree, but this is just pushing your luck.
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Mar 25, 2020 23:43
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Nearly every Swede I’ve spoken to thinks that this is normal and a good course of action and most of us non Swedes are baffled at the inaction and galaxybrained response. Like I get not wanting to appear like you’re overreacting but this is the time to overreact. My bedroom balcony overlooks a square and seeing old people just ~business as usual~ while I’m working from home is shortening my life.
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Mar 26, 2020 00:00
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McCloud posted:Plenty of work for us in health care, ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha The repeated severe understaffing of shifts is what is slowly getting to me. On the other hand, more workhours means more money! 
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Mar 26, 2020 00:16
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teen witch posted:Nearly every Swede I’ve spoken to thinks that this is normal and a good course of action and most of us non Swedes are baffled at the inaction and galaxybrained response. Like I get not wanting to appear like you’re overreacting but this is the time to overreact. It's incredible that nearly every old person I've talked to seems completely oblivious about the risks while all younger people are trying to isolate and want a more serious government response.
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My dad's 74 this year and is taking it very seriously. Like, calling it the worst national crisis "since the war" (and by that he means WW2, of course) when I talked to him on the phone a week ago. Same thing with some older family friends.
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