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There's ground under the strait, so really we're still attacking ground targets. It's just that some of those targets are hovering a few thousand meters above the earth. 
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Nigeria Lots of ground and things to strike on the ground. Lots of things we can reach inside our 700nm bubbles. We have a 150nm eye of sauron ground radar, it's more fun to place it so we're king of the hill over some valuable spot, instead of guarding open ocean or desert.
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Bacarruda posted:(Yooper, I really liked all the procurement options and hard choices we had to make this time around. Next go-around, could we learn the theater first, and then get our buying options?) Sure, we can do that. I'll be starting with strike aircraft instead of fighters next time too.
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Nigeria Let's get Angola 2.0 going!
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Bacarruda posted:(Yooper, I really liked all the procurement options and hard choices we had to make this time around. Next go-around, could we learn the theater first, and then get our buying options?) Seconding the feelings about the "draft" format. It was extremely fun getting to see options and pick the different aspects of our package with each firm "bidding." The personal touch of Ivanov taking our ISARM fighter purchase hard and coming back in the second round with a flashier package was extra satisfying. It made things feel like a proper bid competition.
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The sea component really is an interesting part of Command so I vote Madagascar. Yes the HG air force might not be optimized for it but who cares, the point is to have fun not min/max the meta, and I doubt Yooper will send the team on unwinnable missions. Plus there may be opportunities to add to the force mid-campaign or get some extra rental help or something that could be more naval-oriented if it turns out that the team needs it.
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gohuskies posted:The sea component really is an interesting part of Command so I vote Madagascar. Yes the HG air force might not be optimized for it but who cares, the point is to have fun not min/max the meta, and I doubt Yooper will send the team on unwinnable missions. Plus there may be opportunities to add to the force mid-campaign or get some extra rental help or something that could be more naval-oriented if it turns out that the team needs it. Now that everything is complete and purchased, yes, we will have the ability to procure one off runs of 3DP aircraft for mission specific tasks. Or at least that's the thought for now.
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 Pack up your bags Hired Goons, we're headed to Nigeria! Erm, somewhere near Nigeria.   First up is the Nigerian Government faction. Actually three distinct power factions squabbling within the country itself. We have three members of the "Nigerian Triumvirate". Major General Viktor Azazi (#1), Major General Salihu Yusuf (#2), and Lt Gen Gibson Agwai (#3). MG Azazi is the most content for the Triumvirate to remain as is, of course he has Lagos. Yusuf is the middleman and is playing things cautiously and will actively try to pit the other two against each other to not sandwich him. Finally we have LTGen Agwai who is squeezed by his partners and a budding hostile neighbor in Niger. And, of course, The Major Generals are perfectly happy to let the aggressive Agwai deal with the trouble in the North.  On one hand we are presented with a very poor nation. But make no mistake, Niger has taken out some sizable loans from god knows who to bring in outside mercenaries. They also have nothing anyone else wants and the Nigerian government is content to let the poorer nation break upon a troublesome general. The Niger government is socialist on paper but in reality is just too poor to be much of anything. Once they have the mineral wealth it's unlikely they'll be anything else other than in debt to some very large financiers. There is no ideology here, just a guiding desire to obtain sovereign wealth. We would base at 1, 2, or 3, with the potential for FOB for drone assets or rotary wing down the road.  Cameroon is rather unique in the whole ORMEC mix. Corporatist but with an eye on stability. They are also blessed with a prodigious quantity of minerals. But, like any corporation, they need more. They've recently begun on a massive infrastructure upgrade project throughout the country with an eye on not following in the footsteps of the Oil States in the 20th century. But not all is roses, Nigeria is not a sleeping lion and regularly retaliates in lightning strikes across the border sabotaging mining operations and reducing profits. The closer to the sea the shorter the flight but greater the danger. #1, and #2 are modern airfields but it's barely 100 miles to the Nigerian border. One big thing to remember here, we're fighting other mercenaries regardless of who we fly for. This is, by intention, a merc vs merc fight. Truly a post sovereign nation way unlike anything ever seen. Our opponents could be Ex-Chinese Nationalists piloting leftover Luftwaffe jets or Honduran Airline Pilots sporting Super Tukes. We'll see mercs on the ground, the air, and at sea. The employers won't always be evident either. So, what say you Hired Goons? Who pays our bills this time?
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Who has the most money? I'm guessing the guy who managed to wrangle control of Lagos. Azazi but I'm willing to be convinced otherwise if there's a bigger payday involved. No moral sides in this resource war, might as well get what we can.
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paragon1 posted:Who has the most money? I'm guessing the guy who managed to wrangle control of Lagos. Azazi but I'm willing to be convinced otherwise if there's a bigger payday involved. Just to clarify the Nigerian government as a whole is the employer, even if they are fighting against themselves. Sometimes.
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Which areas have the most amount of stuff or threats other mercs may make strikes at? I'm thinking the better we are positioned to cover vulnerabilities the better we'll be able to respond to attacks, of which there certainly will be some. Rather, I'd like to know more about those mineral resources 'over the border'. Which would we have to be based out of to make moves/strikes at targets there?
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The hell if I'm going to work for some corporate dildo and his pet G-man! They might be warlords, but at least the Nigerian Government have resources and have the decency to not prostitute themselves out to Teslabook and the mining conglomerates. And if we're playing the defending side, we should be as close to the border as possible. In lieu of something near the Nigeria/Cameroon border, Site 2 just outside of Abuja looks good.
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I'm going to vote for Niger, both for the limited initial front and for us to potentially really shake things up, given that Nigeria doesn't seem to consider them much of a threat. Also we have a laser now, let's be the Ace Combat antagonists for once.
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Just an FYI for everyone: if you are from Nigeria, you are Nigerian if you are from Niger, you are Nigerien
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Nigeria, location 3 Seems like a good place for consistent action.
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Mar 26, 2020 07:19
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Let the capitalists and the squabbling warlords fight each other, we need to help our comrades in Niger. 
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TheParadigm posted:Which areas have the most amount of stuff or threats other mercs may make strikes at? Nigeria is going to be the most centrally located with action coming in from both sides. However the other two, while primarily offensive in nature, will still have to deal with excursions and mercs from all quarters. Nigeria, even if they aren't actively making GBS threads on the neighbors, will be actively making GBS threads on the other members of the Triumvirate.
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Yooper posted:Pack up your bags Hired Goons, we're headed to Nigeria! Erm, somewhere near Nigeria. I'm voting Nigerian Government. We get to work for not one, but three African warlords, which should make for some fantastic stories. The Major General jokes write themselves. Oh, and we're smack dab in the middle of Nollywood and I sense a chance for some amazing promo movies.
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Bacarruda posted:I'm voting Nigerian Government. We get to work for not one, but three African warlords, which should make for some fantastic stories. The Major General jokes write themselves. Oh, and we're smack dab in the middle of Nollywood and I sense a chance for some amazing promo movies. I would totally try to contract these guys for a $40 movie shoot but I'd be afraid a Nigerian Prince would abscond with our funds and attempt to give them away.
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Mar 26, 2020 12:12
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Mar 26, 2020 13:58
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I'm gonna be contrarian and vote Cameroon.
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I'm putting my vote for Niger, because:Grizzwold posted:Also we have a laser now, let's be the Ace Combat antagonists for once.
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Grizzwold posted:Also we have a laser now, let's be the Ace Combat antagonists for once. You sold me. Niger
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power crystals posted:I'm gonna be contrarian and vote Cameroon. I'd like to see how 'progressive stable nation with long term vision' plays out. Seems more suitable than 'an overreaching nation that may default on llarge loans'. It may be trickier, but when the theatre pitch includes 'possibility of permanent presence', I think its better to go with the team that has a non-infighting vision, and also has existing assets. I think niger will be hilarious stories and i want to see them from a distance, where it won't blow up in our faces. Still, of the options, cameroon is the least popular right now, but it has my vote.
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TheParadigm posted:I think niger will be hilarious stories and i want to see them from a distance, where it won't blow up in our faces. I think the capacity to blow up in our faces is deeply mitigated by the fact that everyone involves understands that this is a... how did Yooper put it? Post-sovereignty war? Everyone doing the fighting is mercenary in some way or another. The countries know that individual PMCs aren't personal, just business. This doesn't preclude business wrecking rivalries between various PMCs, but ultimately when Niger's money runs out, they know their army runs out too, and probably into the arms of a Nigerian warlord. I don't get the feeling that national loyalty means much in this theater. Especially when the governments in question probably won't be there in six months. Some pots might get sweetened to "incentivise" loyalty, or to try and poach a company, or just because Major Lieutenant General Junior Grade Fuckstick likes you. In that respect, might as well stick a straw in Niger now before anyone else does. The other two will probably still have money to burn when Niger's creditors come in and privatize every cow, log, nail, and wheat field in the country. Lets get our slice while we can.
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I'm going for Camaroon. We'll be relying on ground based radar instead of airborne, so any terrain features nearby could severely limit it's effectiveness. This region is fairly flat, but setting it up on that hill behind Malabo, so it can see out over the water, seems about as ideal as you can get. We will be closer to the action than we might like to be, but we'll definitely see anybody heading our way coming. minor bonus for Camaroon - we won't be working for anyone who'll get upset when we inevitably cross up Nigerian and Nigerien. Hobo on Fire fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Mar 26, 2020 |
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I vote Niger. It’s not a good choice, but going with the desperate aggressors might turn out to be beneficial somehow.
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Niger Workign for the underdogs sounds fun.
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My read on the options: Niger - There's a lot to like here, they're the underdog of the scenario. The problem is the possibility of the paychecks not coming can't be ignored. Nigeria - This is the most unpredictable situation to put ourselves in. Unlike Niger we probably don't need to worry about our employers going broke mid-deployment. That said, there's a distinctly non-zero chance of getting stabbed in the back by one of our warlords depending on how things go. Cameroon - I'd say this is easily the "safe" option, in terms of back stabbing and actually getting paid on time. On the other hand being good, corporate lap dogs doesn't sound like a ton of fun to me. My vote is for Niger
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I wouldn't mind working for an underdog in Niger, but I mean we've been hurt before, Angola was supposed to be a big feather in our cap the last time we came to Africa and now it's not doing so hot. Maybe its time we get a little dispassionate and look to a more solid paycheck. I think the Nigerian government gives us some good options and if nothing else, if and when the 3 generals try to betray one another we can definitely start a bidding war for some more goodies. The best case maybe get some stakes in some mines and send the profits back to our village in Gjadër, Elseid the barkeep has some solid ideas for rigging up a couple of stills for hooch, but needs some long term seed money!
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 Initial operations will occur out of the Diori Hamani International Airport. It has three things we really need; two runways, paved runways, and a bar. OPS will be coordinated from the Lucky Smoky Lounge until we can procure a better(?) setting. We received a warm welcome, lots of smiles, some government types patting each other on the backs and the usual suspects wanting to sell us gasoline, food, goats, and alcohol. For the moment we're settling in, setting up patrols, and easing into the deployment. Our flight came in from the north so we've kind of snuck into the ORMEC theater. We've got the element of surprise. For now. It won't last.  Luckily we're in a mercenary rich environment. I'm expecting some contacts from ground mercs to be incoming shortly. I'm sure all of the top level operators are hanging out in Niamey.
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Hey, it's not that bad. The average daily high for March in Niamey is only 102.4 F.
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Being in the cockpit is going to be fun. Glad I'm slowly losing my mind on the liquid asset instead.
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