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MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Gripweed posted:

Watto is simply an immoral merchant with a beard and a black hat and a large facial protuberance situated above his mouth and blow his eyes that has nostrils on the end. If you think I'm describing an antisemitic caricature, perhaps you are the real antisemite!

Lol. Just loving lol.

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The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
watto's right up there with fiveish and a wyatt mann cartoons

as funny looking things that make people laugh on the internet

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
`

MonsieurChoc posted:

Lol. Just loving lol.

Whoa drat this guys just laughing

Kharn_The_Betrayer
Nov 15, 2013


Fun Shoe
yeah listen there really is no point in bringing this up here. People have made up their minds about these films and no amount of posting about it is gonna change anything.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
gently caress guys what is it about the slave-owning merchant wearing a yarmulke that seems weird or immoral to you

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻

Cnidaria posted:

it's funny that in the MCU earth has gone through like multiple apocalyptic events but nothing ever changes

it's especially funny in endgame where half the population getting wiped out just makes it earth but with less people and everyone is sad instead of the complete collapse of modern civilization

anyways most of the marvel movies are bland focus-grouped poo poo except for guardians 1 and 2 and some parts of thor 3

What are you talking about? You can see the effects of the alien invasion in the Daredevil show, where Hell's Kitchen is less gentrified than the real world version!

It's also fun that the Punisher show, which tries to deal with the excesses of the War on Terror, never brings up the fact that Science Nazis have infiltrated the entire American military intelligence apparatus and tried to cull the population with fleet of flying death carriers.

Re: Phantom Menace, I think the only aliens that don't speak in either alien language or a racist accent are Yoda, Darth Maul, and the two-headed pod race announcer.

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015




His hat is the size of a big metal sombrero. It couldn’t look less like a yarmulke.

The Kingfish fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Mar 27, 2020

Nikaer Drekin
Oct 11, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

MonsieurChoc posted:

He's not even shown to love money

"Mind tricks don't work on me - only money."
- Watto

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

The Kingfish posted:

His hat is the size of a big metal sombrero. It couldn’t look less like a yarmulke.

When you have to fight the Germans at the Somme in the morning but get to temple by sundown.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Snape was actually the protagonist of Harry potter

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



The Muppets On PCP posted:

i thought leslie lee's whole thing was having the worst possible takes on entertainment

he once lamented that kids today don't know or care about the red hot chili peppers

I respect the stuff him and Jack do but I can’t listen to most of their show due to those lovely entertainment takes. They were spot on about the Watchmen HBO show though.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

duck.exe
Apr 14, 2012

Nap Ghost

The Kingfish posted:

His hat is the size of a big metal sombrero. It couldn’t look less like a yarmulke.

It looks like the kind of fedora that’s in caricatures of Orthodox/Hasidic Jews.

Pharmaskittle
Dec 17, 2007

arf arf put the money in the fuckin bag

Dr Christmas posted:

It's also fun that the Punisher show, which tries to deal with the excesses of the War on Terror, never brings up the fact that Science Nazis have infiltrated the entire American military intelligence apparatus and tried to cull the population with fleet of flying death carriers.

I haven't watched it, but the punisher guy would definitely be the last person in the world to realize it.

Rainbow Knight
Apr 19, 2006

We die.
We pray.
To live.
We serve

The Kingfish posted:

His hat is the size of a big metal sombrero. It couldn’t look less like a yarmulke.

that looks nothing like a sombrero and if it did and watto sounded like cheech marin mother fucker that movie would rocket all the way to the top of the charts

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

Trabisnikof posted:

They’re also a far better superhero franchise than avengers, their super power is cars that’s all.

They also had more earnest representation of POC and women than the Marvel movies. It feels more organic than whatever focus group driven bullshit Marvel put into their movies.

Okuteru fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Mar 27, 2020

Cnidaria
Apr 10, 2009

It's all politics, Mike.

although now that I'm thinking about it nothing can really change in the MCU because the ideology of those movies is pure end-of-history neoliberalism

there is alien tech everywhere and tony stark invented magical clean super-energy and artificial intelligence but we can't let the audience think that a better world is possible

or a worse one. it would own if the MCU went full shadowrun with all it advanced tech and weird space-magic poo poo

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
watto is ashkenazi this is canon

cohsae
Jun 19, 2015


Why is this picture so loving funny I'm dying here.
I've got the 'rona madness

Rabbi Tupac
Jan 1, 2010

Heroes of the Storm
Goon Tournament Champion
Watto was clearly Persian anyway.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
The evil of Watto isn't what stereotype he is or isn't, but that he's a "good" slaveowner. The kind who thinks that because he lets his slaves have things and doesn't beat them (much), he's a good person.

When you see him again in Episode 2, he's super happy to see Anakin. He doesn't realize that slavery is evil, and that he loving sold Anakin's mom like a piece of meat. Anakin can barely control his hatred of the man.

And the Jedi don't give a poo poo that there's still slavery in the Outer Rim. Hell, they don't give a poo poo about Droid slavery and Clone slavery. They talk about how they're keepers of peace and justice but they're deeply entrenched in the highly corrupt government of the Republic, live isolated in their ivory tower, and don't care about the injustice that they can't see or that is politcally complicated. Anakin see through that bullshit, and that's how Palpatine gets him.

Saagonsa
Dec 29, 2012

cohsae posted:

Why is this picture so loving funny I'm dying here.
I've got the 'rona madness

It has the exact same energy as that photo of Matt dressed like a child

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
nancy pelosi's daughter was right. some of our faves will become problematic because of me too, including watto

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

1. Watto is supposed to be Jewish and anyone who disagrees is givng more credit to Lucas than he has ever earned.

Also Felix thinks zero g makes opiates better for some reason.

Cnidaria
Apr 10, 2009

It's all politics, Mike.

oh god I forgot how boring the prequel trilogy is

miniscule12
Jan 8, 2020

HAHA YEAH HE PEED IN HIS OWN MOUTH I'M GONNA KEEP BRINGING IT UP.

The prequels are racist, but through cultural osmosis that is impossible to escape in our racist society. Best example of this being Mace Windu not being a human like Han Solo is human but a jungle alien,

I don't understand how people can say the prequels are good when it lacks fundamentals aspects of movie making such as characters or rising action.

Thompsons
Aug 28, 2008

Ask me about onklunk extraction.
Also ignoring Watto's nose and hat he still has a weird scraggly jew beard despite not looking like an alien that should be able to grow hair at all

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

Everyone's ignoring the deeply offensive Italian American stereotype in episode III.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

The Kingfish posted:

2 episodes in and Tiger King is the greatest show I’ve ever seen.

holy poo poo this is so good, thanks for the rec

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


The Muppets On PCP posted:

i thought leslie lee's whole thing was having the worst possible takes on entertainment

he once lamented that kids today don't know or care about the red hot chili peppers

He's either totally wrong about some terrible thing (prequels, pretty sure he's a Matrix sequel defender) or totally right about some awful thing that gets praised to the heavens (Watchmen show).

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine

The Kingfish posted:

2 episodes in and Tiger King is the greatest show I’ve ever seen.

I loving knew that dude would blow up eventually. Louis Theroux did a docu-special that featured, like, 2 minutes of the guy (it was mostly about the animals) but it was kinda off-handedly mentioned that he is he was in a gay 3-way relationship. I was like 'drat, this guy is way more interesting than just being a big cat guy'

OctoberCountry
Oct 9, 2012
So does this commentary ever get funny or interesting?

TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer

Gripweed posted:

There is one major thing about the Phantom Menace that to the best of my knowledge has never been mentioned in RLM and it drives me loving crazy. This scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSkT8z84LKM

It's the big battle sequence between the frogs and the robots, and it's treated very seriously. But it's a diversion. The battle doesn't matter, the whole point was to get the droids out of the city. Once the droids deploy, that's it, the frogs have won. But the movie never acknowledges that! There's no wink to the audience or anything.

I think that's a major reason the movie feels so incoherent, this major part of the conclusion of the movie is treated so tonally wrong the audience forgets why it's happening.

I believe Plinkett mentions that the Shatinerians are responding to an obvious decoy by sending their troops out to meet the Goongas

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

TheBigAristotle posted:

I believe Plinkett mentions that the Shatinerians are responding to an obvious decoy by sending their troops out to meet the Goongas

Dammit, now I'm going to have to watch all three of them in a row instead of doing work. :rant:



:D

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

The Muppets On PCP posted:

now this is the kind of comic book movie i can get behind

:lol:didnt Jeremy Renner get in trouble for this exact type of comment?

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

TheBigAristotle posted:

I believe Plinkett mentions that the Shatinerians are responding to an obvious decoy by sending their troops out to meet the Goongas

Yeah he talks about how dumb the robots are for falling for the diversion, but he doesn't say anything about how weird it is that the movie doesn't treat it like a diversion. If you watch that scene out of context it looks like an important battle the outcome of which matters.

The movie treats the Gundgans vs Robots fight more seriously than Anakin in the enemy ship. Anakin destroying the ship is the entire conclusion of the whole loving thing, that's the objective of the entire multi-pronged operation. But it's treated like kid comedy. Whereas the diversion done by the comedy rabbit men is treated like a serious Lord of the Rings battle. It's completely incoherent.

Why is nobody talking about this?????????????????

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

MonsieurChoc posted:

They're really, really not.

They have an accent, and somehow that's enough for everyon to see them as racist caricatures. EXCEPT THEY FIT NONE OF THE STEREOTYPES ASSOCIATED WITH THESE CARICATURES! This is especially obvious with Watto, who is a tiny flying elephant man and not a big-schnozed Jew. He's a junk dealer who loves gambling and doesn't let himself be scammed by a stranger. He's closer to a New Jersey used-car salesman than the Merchant of Venice!

I remember years ago when I was still lurking when the second Bayformers movie came out on the Cinema Discusso forums people (the whitest most oblivious internet nerds imaginable) literally couldn't see anything racist about those two Comedy Relief bots

one of the mouthbreathers legit thought "it was a parody of rednecks!1!1!:downs:"

OctoberCountry
Oct 9, 2012

Gripweed posted:

Whereas the diversion done by the comedy rabbit men is treated like a serious Lord of the Rings battle. It's completely incoherent.

What? The gungan/droid battle has just as much lovely comedy as the Anakin segments

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

OctoberCountry posted:

What? The gungan/droid battle has just as much lovely comedy as the Anakin segments

It has Jar Jar's antics, but they are specifically shown as an exception to the otherwise stoic and brave fish people soldiers.

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thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot
Captain America is a religious reactionary; he literally interacts with gods on a daily basis and claims there's only the one god.

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