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Timeless Appeal posted:My guess is that this head to head won't come up, but how does it stack against Witchcraft? Amityville movies run between boring and bad. Witchcraft runs from bad to entertainingly bad. The Amityville movies are probably "better" by somewhat objective measures, but, given no other option, I'd rather watch Witchcraft.
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I'm outraged that Puppet Master lost to Leprechaun but either would fall to Chucky so whatever. I'm probably going to keep voting against Universal Monsters as long as the squad is their poster child - I watched it for the first time last challenge and it was the most disappointing thing I've seen in ages. Just amazing setup and then constantly fumbling it with only a couple of bright spots. This round the only question marks are Ghoulies vs. Human Centipede, which I guess I finally have to watch, and HS vs. FD. My gut says Ginger Snaps since the first two are both really good and I can't remember much of anything about any of the Final Destinations, but I probably owe them a viewing with attention.
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Mar 26, 2020 22:41
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The Ginger Snaps vs. Final Destination matchup is hard. Is a franchise with one great, one good, and one okay movie better or worse than a franchise with 2 very good, 2 good, and one very bad movie? I voted FD just because I think it has a special place outside of the more objective qualities of the movies due to having some of the most inventive kills in all of horror. Even the worst FD kills would be among the best kills in other franchises. I think that deserves the nod even though obviously the first Ginger Snaps movie is better than any film in the FD franchise.
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Mar 26, 2020 23:04
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Does This Island Earth count as Universal Horror? I mean the 30 little Universal Monster bobbleheads I had a kid says yes, but just checking.
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Mar 26, 2020 23:21
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I will tell you, based on early results, it is entirely possible for Uwe Boll's Bloodrayne to win one of these matchups. Just not this one:
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Mar 27, 2020 01:47
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Shrecknet posted:I will tell you, based on early results, it is entirely possible for Uwe Boll's Bloodrayne to win one of these matchups. Just not this one: NotLD clearly didn't stand a chance against the mighty SNDN
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Mar 27, 2020 01:58
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Edit-- whoops wrong horror thread
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Shrecknet posted:I will tell you, based on early results, it is entirely possible for Uwe Boll's Bloodrayne to win one of these matchups. Ghoulies/Centipede?
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Mar 27, 2020 02:02
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Timeless Appeal posted:My guess is that this head to head won't come up, but how does it stack against Witchcraft? There's a few Witchcraft films I haven't seen yet, but I'd say Witchcraft's better by a skosh than Amityville. There were Amityville films I watched that were so bad I was wondering what favors or blackmail material someone had on someone else to have the movie get a release.
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Mar 27, 2020 03:42
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No way thats not the NOTLD match up.
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Mar 27, 2020 04:00
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Sono posted:Ghoulies/Centipede? Nah, Bloodrayne is going to win Amityville vs. Prophecy. I'm going to watch the Human Centipede movies for this, but there's not enough wealth in the world to bribe me into engaging with Amityville.
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Mar 27, 2020 06:24
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For those of you who think only the first Exorcist is good, please watch the movie of the month and repent.
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Mar 27, 2020 10:26
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Ghoulies II and III are good, seminal entries into the small creatures genre (aka, the little puppets flopping around genre). The first Ghoulies is more of a wizard duel movie than a small creatures movie. Ghoulies IV is hardly a Ghoulies at all. While I liked Human Centipede, it's really more of a idea than a film. I mean it does a lot with that one idea, but I gotta go Ghoulies.
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Mar 27, 2020 13:18
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I'm not sure if I've seen Ghoulies III/IV, but II is probably my favorite "rubber puppet monster" movie
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Mar 27, 2020 13:21
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I'll be honest. I think Wrong Turn is a perfectly cromulent franchise and has spectacular practical gore effects and a satisfying nastiness that harkens back to Day of the Dead. But:
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Mar 27, 2020 13:22
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Human Centipede 1 is actually pretty funny, and the insane performance by Dieter "my real name is actually Dieter Laser" Laser as Dr. Centipede really helps to make the movie work. The sequel... Ugh. Yeah, I get it, it's meta! It's about the controversy from the first movie! The new villain is a fanboy of the Dr. Centipede character! It's in black and white which is almost as good as making it good! Still poop from the butt of the end of a human centipede.
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Mar 27, 2020 16:31
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M_Sinistrari posted:There's a few Witchcraft films I haven't seen yet, but I'd say Witchcraft's better by a skosh than Amityville. There were Amityville films I watched that were so bad I was wondering what favors or blackmail material someone had on someone else to have the movie get a release. I watched the first Witchcraft last night at around 3 am. I somehow didn't fall asleep, but it was a hell of a struggle. Definitely not what I would expect to spawn 16 sequels.
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Mar 27, 2020 16:40
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Watching Bloodrayne actually get more votes than one of the entrants, and it appears that there was in fact a third BloodRayne so maybe we made a mistake in nominating one of these franchises.gey muckle mowser posted:I'm not sure if I've seen Ghoulies III/IV, but II is probably my favorite "rubber puppet monster" movie 
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Mar 27, 2020 18:03
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It's a shame that Gremlins didn't have a third installment, because those first two movies could carry it a long way. I'd even put it over the F13 series
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Mar 27, 2020 18:16
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Debbie Does Dagon posted:It's a shame that Gremlins didn't have a third installment, because those first two movies could carry it a long way. I'd even put it over the F13 series Disagree, only because Gremlins 2 is the perfect coda. It carpet-bombed the idea of sequels and Joe Dante deserves a medal for completely destroying his own franchise like that to keep the ghouls in the C-suites from sullying the series with endless retreads.
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Mar 27, 2020 18:33
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A Big Dark Yak posted:Human Centipede 1 is actually pretty funny, and the insane performance by Dieter "my real name is actually Dieter Laser" Laser as Dr. Centipede really helps to make the movie work. If you want to watch Dieter Laser chewing scenery as a mad scientist, watch Lexx season 2 instead.
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Mar 27, 2020 20:03
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Gremlins and Gremlins 2 are equals for different reasons they're both amazing. Gremlins 2 may be the greatest horror sequel and direct follow up film ever made .
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Jedit posted:If you want to watch Dieter Laser chewing scenery as a mad scientist, watch Lexx season 2 instead. What is it with you people and Lexx??
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Mar 27, 2020 21:03
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:What is it with you people and Lexx?? Its a low budget bugfuck insane series. Also it use to air on Scifi a good bit back in the day and I bet most people watched the edited version of the show. Also they travel around space in a giant dick and balls.
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Mar 27, 2020 21:05
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I just voted today and Final Destination vs. Ginger Snaps and Re-Animator vs. Maniac Cop were some really loving hard choices.
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Mar 27, 2020 21:36
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LesterGroans posted:I just voted today and Final Destination vs. Ginger Snaps and Re-Animator vs. Maniac Cop were some really loving hard choices. In this period of mourning you must vote Re-Animator imo.
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Mar 27, 2020 22:25
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Lurdiak posted:For those of you who think only the first Exorcist is good, please watch the movie of the month and repent. Do not commit self-harm during these trying times.
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Mar 27, 2020 22:46
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Sono posted:
Look at this guy mocking my plans for tonight. edit: For real, my plans tonight are to watch Exorcist II and Poltergeist III and I'm having serious second thoughts. I watched Exorcist, Poltergeist, Re-Animator, Bride of Re-Animator, and Candyman over the last few days. But suddenly I've discovered my flaw in binging multiple franchises at once plan when you hit all their low points at once. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Mar 27, 2020 |
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Mar 27, 2020 23:09
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STAC Goat posted:Look at this guy mocking my plans for tonight. I watched Slithis on Prime, which sent me to the promised land of early 70s D-films. I'm now on Garden of the Dead. How low can this quarantine bring me? Bad Ben marathon. It will definitely be a Bad Ben marathon.
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STAC Goat posted:Look at this guy mocking my plans for tonight. Poltergeist 3 is a treat, it's miles better than Exorcist 2
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Mar 28, 2020 00:07
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In my brief prep work research for Exorcist II the consistent theme seems to be "one of the worst films of all time." That combined with some bad childhood memories of Poltergeist III have me spooked and reworking my "schedule." But I have to watch Exorcist II if I'm gonna watch Exorcist III before the month is over. And yes. I have to.
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Mar 28, 2020 00:10
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I enjoy Exorcist II. Never got the hate, tbh.
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Mar 28, 2020 01:14
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I decided to give the Leprechaun series a watch, seeing as I'd never seen them before. Within the first half hour of the first movie I realised that I'd actually seen it before, and my mind must have completely scrubbed the memory asif it were a severe childhood trauma.
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Mar 28, 2020 01:52
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Debbie Does Dagon posted:my mind must have completely scrubbed the memory asif it were a severe childhood trauma. 
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Debbie Does Dagon posted:I decided to give the Leprechaun series a watch, seeing as I'd never seen them before. Within the first half hour of the first movie I realised that I'd actually seen it before, and my mind must have completely scrubbed the memory asif it were a severe childhood trauma. When I was young for some reason Leprechaun was airing on HBO or something like everyone in school watched it and was talking about it the next day and I was like "I set the video tape because it was on after my bed time" and I was mocked mercilessly because I hadn't realized everyone else had lost their bed times by then. So Leprechaun traumatized my childhood too. 
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Under no circumstances do you "gotta watch" Exorcist 2 in order to watch 3. That's like saying you gotta gouge out your eyes before you go to the Louvre.
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So as part of why we have several days to vote when most people get their votes in right away, is so that we can campaign to get people to sway their opinion. And looking at the early results, it's pretty dire for one matchup, so I am gonna campaign for something else: The Prophecy is a weird only-okay religious horror film that has one great performance from a guy showing up for five minutes at the end of the first movie who isn't even a main character. And twenty drat Amityville movies and not a drat one is above "boring", so I'm gonna say people should just vote (or change your already-entered vote) to Bloodrayne. Kristanna Loken is doing her very best and the first movie is so ridiculous and insane that it defies belief. The final shot literally is non-sequiter, as in it does not follow any of the actions that occur earlier in the film. Uwe Boll somehow parlayed his grifter persona to get movies made well after the German tax loophole closed and here we are: a serviceable vampire assassin movie made with some of the weirdest directorial choices you're likely to see. Uwe Boll is not a good filmmaker, but he is consistently one of the most entertaining just because he is clearly skilled enough to shoot movies in focus and with professional production, but still has so little artistry that it boggles the mind.
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I'm tempted but gently caress Uwe Boll and up with Viggo as Satan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CiuSr-6xP4
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For anyone else curious about The Prophecy, a content warning: It contains a scene of a child being groomed and then sexually assaulted, and the perpetrator is portrayed as a heroic character. It's explained away as innocent in the context of the film, but JFC, who the gently caress thought that scene was a good idea 
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I think both Leprechaun and The Prophecy fill an interesting space in horror. The slasher franchises were either ending or stalling at this time. While I don't think the 90s were that dire, there definitely wasn't a sense of cohesion to horror. It was a genre trying to figure itself out. Like Leprechaun, The Prophecy is not good--although not as bad as Leprechaun. But as a chubby preteen in the late 90s, these films still felt like something. The Prophecy felt like it was sustaining a sense of canon I don't have nostalgia for Prophecy so much as I have nostalgia for this weird period of time living in the shadows of the 80s and finding its way. In a lot of ways, The Prophecy is maybe the most representative of this sort of lost time of horror. It's not as middling as other franchises of the time and has more charm than the Scream rip offs that would try to bring on a new age of horror. It's a movie that has ambition and sometimes shows glimmers of promise. If it was going against a better franchise it should be eliminated, but it's not. It's up against Amityville Horror. We can talk about the bad sequels, but I think we need to be clear: The first Amityville is BAD. It is dour and boring while somehow also indulging in bullshit pseudo-science. It is everything boring about haunted house horror and it would have been easily forgotten if Poltergeist and The Shining hadn't come out a few years later to show how you loving do a haunted house story. It is a lovely movie elevated by both when it was released and the lies of conmen who inspired this lovely movie. There is no reason to vote for Blood Rayne when there is a clear winner for this matchup. Do the right thing.
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