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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race?
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R. Allin-Khan 6 1.60%
R. Burgon 80 21.33%
D. Butler 72 19.20%
A. Rayner 35 9.33%
I. Murray 5 1.33%
P. Flaps 177 47.20%
Total: 375 votes
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thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
Online pub quiz was pretty fun. We didn't win but it was a good chance to hang out remotely with some friends we've honestly interacted more with in the past week or two than the whole of the last few years since we're all in different cities.

E: 24/7 is the amount of time we will soon all have to stay at home.

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Gully Foyle
Feb 29, 2008

TheRat posted:

Speaking of Italy and plateauing death rates, can someone translate this for me because google translate is rather ominous

https://twitter.com/lucfontana/status/1243071299058106368

Essentially they compared the deaths for those communities to the same period last year. In Nembro, only 35 people died last year while 158 died this year, and only 31 of those deaths are officially coronavirus deaths. Same story in Bergamo just different numbers. This indicates there's a much larger impact than is being recorded. Likely it's some combination of the completely overloaded medical system meaning people aren't getting treatments for non-COVID illnesses as needed, and also some COVID deaths may be being missed.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Bacon Terrorist posted:

Supposedly it was an idea as far as London is concerned but outside of London I can confirm scaling back public transport regarding the railway is less of a plan and more of a reaction to the vast swathes of staff being affected.

It's sickness and self-isolation in London too. After actual NHS staff I'm guessing TfL staff have easily the highest risk of getting infected (and spreading it) of any profession in the country.

If Khan had more balls he could *definitely* have done a lot more to lock down London - revoking construction licenses for large sites (and getting the local councils to do the same for small) would have addressed one of the biggest problems right away, naming and shaming employers forcing staff in for non-essential work, just generally setting a more aggressive tone. But just like the Tories, he desperately doesn't want to be seen to be the Big Bad ruining everything, so he's settled right into the blaming the workers schtick.

And it's going to work. We're going to dwarf Italy's death toll, we'll probably overtake New York, and the commentariat will cluck about how irresponsible Those People were and if only we'd followed the very sensible advice given out by their obvious betters it would have all been okay, but now it's important we Get Back To Normal and get the economy running as smoothly as possible so they can let out their flats that have suddenly become vacant.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded
Is anyone keeping a list of the companies that are doing particularly awful things atm?

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Gully Foyle posted:

Essentially they compared the deaths for those communities to the same period last year. In Nembro, only 35 people died last year while 158 died this year, and only 31 of those deaths are officially coronavirus deaths. Same story in Bergamo just different numbers. This indicates there's a much larger impact than is being recorded. Likely it's some combination of the completely overloaded medical system meaning people aren't getting treatments for non-COVID illnesses as needed, and also some COVID deaths may be being missed.

This was a big fear of mine and it's heartbreaking to see it playing out. And as twisto says just above this post too, London's going to get extremely bad extremely soon, and that's going to include a lot of non-Covid patients who can't get the help they need as well.

Doing their best and falling short because this is a once-in-a-century crisis is one thing, I don't think many would be baying for blood in such an event. But once all is said and done there needs to be a commission into how many died unnecessarily and those responsible want shooting jailed for life. Of course, even if such a commission happened it'd be a whitewash, and even if it wasn't nothing would actually come of it.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Vitamin P posted:

Is anyone keeping a list of the companies that are doing particularly awful things atm?

I mean people are but realistically there's little need, just look at the FTSE100 and you've already got a very solid start.

zhar
May 3, 2019

Vitamin P posted:

Is anyone keeping a list of the companies that are doing particularly awful things atm?

this was posted earlier but it's more general than just the worst.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

zhar posted:

this was posted earlier but it's more general than just the worst.

That's perfect thank you.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

goddamnedtwisto posted:

It's sickness and self-isolation in London too. After actual NHS staff I'm guessing TfL staff have easily the highest risk of getting infected (and spreading it) of any profession in the country.

If Khan had more balls he could *definitely* have done a lot more to lock down London - revoking construction licenses for large sites (and getting the local councils to do the same for small) would have addressed one of the biggest problems right away, naming and shaming employers forcing staff in for non-essential work, just generally setting a more aggressive tone. But just like the Tories, he desperately doesn't want to be seen to be the Big Bad ruining everything, so he's settled right into the blaming the workers schtick.

And it's going to work. We're going to dwarf Italy's death toll, we'll probably overtake New York, and the commentariat will cluck about how irresponsible Those People were and if only we'd followed the very sensible advice given out by their obvious betters it would have all been okay, but now it's important we Get Back To Normal and get the economy running as smoothly as possible so they can let out their flats that have suddenly become vacant.

I really doubt we're going to overtake New York. The American healthcare system and an insane president with a personal grudge against the city are really stiff competition.

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



goddamnedtwisto posted:

It's sickness and self-isolation in London too. After actual NHS staff I'm guessing TfL staff have easily the highest risk of getting infected (and spreading it) of any profession in the country.

If Khan had more balls he could *definitely* have done a lot more to lock down London - revoking construction licenses for large sites (and getting the local councils to do the same for small) would have addressed one of the biggest problems right away, naming and shaming employers forcing staff in for non-essential work, just generally setting a more aggressive tone. But just like the Tories, he desperately doesn't want to be seen to be the Big Bad ruining everything, so he's settled right into the blaming the workers schtick.

And it's going to work. We're going to dwarf Italy's death toll, we'll probably overtake New York, and the commentariat will cluck about how irresponsible Those People were and if only we'd followed the very sensible advice given out by their obvious betters it would have all been okay, but now it's important we Get Back To Normal and get the economy running as smoothly as possible so they can let out their flats that have suddenly become vacant.
given how much of the UK is rented property and that gas servicing is still happening to this day because HSE can't get their act together gas engineers are p high on the list as well

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
It's weird how people seem to think train crews are immune. Friend is a train guard working out of Waterloo he's going bonkers at the people jamming into trains at the mo. He's actually quite scared. Gangs of teenagers are particularly scary as they are deliberately coughing at people.
Govt has really not handled this well. UBI and much more precise definition of essential work and penalties for businesses insisting on nonessential staff coming in on pain of the sack.

elbkaida
Jan 13, 2008
Look!

Gully Foyle posted:

Essentially they compared the deaths for those communities to the same period last year. In Nembro, only 35 people died last year while 158 died this year, and only 31 of those deaths are officially coronavirus deaths. Same story in Bergamo just different numbers. This indicates there's a much larger impact than is being recorded. Likely it's some combination of the completely overloaded medical system meaning people aren't getting treatments for non-COVID illnesses as needed, and also some COVID deaths may be being missed.

I'm really not sure where these really low official covid numbers are from but I remember some article from earlier this week that claimed there were 400 covid deaths in Bergamo. So some people are definitely giving out better numbers than that.

Edit: Actually that might have been the mayor lamenting too low official figures. Not sure anymore now!

elbkaida fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Mar 27, 2020

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Like, seriously, the UK's problem is that it's squandering highly useful tools for fighting a pandemic (like an advanced and well-loved public healthcare service that's free at the point of use) through incompetence and apathy. America, meanwhile, teaches its citizens to be terrified of going to the doctor because it will bankrupt them regardless of how serious their medical issue is, links what health support they have to employment, and has a president who's champing at the bit to genocide the coastal cities because the literati there were a bit too condescending to him when he attended their monthly paedophile orgies, sources all his medical advice from half-remembered Alex Jones rants, and won't let trained doctors address the nation because they'd get better TV ratings than him.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Ms Adequate posted:

Medical fetish company donated their supplies to the NHS.

I choose to believe this means sounds and enemas and so forth, not just scrubs.
"I'm afraid we don't have any ventilators left, but we do have this vaccum bed and a few penis pumps, so if you manage to cobble something together let us know. Or just go out with a bang, whatever."

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
On a lighter note, this evening's Ancient Aliens reckons 8% of the human genome comes from viruses so extraterrestrials can manipulate human behaviour. So they do this in the Middle East by causing social unrest to stop humans discovering what's under the Temple Mount or the Pyramids.

What if CV is ET trying to make humans more socialist?

(NB I watch this for entertainment not serious educational purposes!)

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Like, Sadiq Khan's COVID-19 response is poor, but this is what the currently serving Democratic mayor of New York said at the start of the month:

https://twitter.com/billdeblasio/status/1234648718714036229?s=21

Pound_Coin
Feb 5, 2004
£


Bobby Deluxe posted:

"I'm afraid we don't have any ventilators left, but we do have this vaccum bed and a few penis pumps, so if you manage to cobble something together let us know. Or just go out with a bang, whatever."

an extremely UKMT version of the co2 filter scene from apollo 13

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

goddamnedtwisto posted:

But just like the Tories, he desperately doesn't want to be seen to be the Big Bad ruining everything, so he's settled right into the blaming the workers schtick.

Khan is very much a British Obama in that he campaigned really well and was a genuinely inspiring figure in terms of representation, but after getting elected he threw away the organisation that coalesced around the campaign and cucked to 'welp we did all we could considering' after completely ignoring the bully pulpit power of his position.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

given how much of the UK is rented property and that gas servicing is still happening to this day because HSE can't get their act together gas engineers are p high on the list as well

We've already had a gas engineer round to fix our boiler. We yelled "come in!" when he knocked instead of opening the door, then told him the boiler was in the kitchen and let him get to. We never came within 15 feet of him and we disinfected all the surfaces before and after he left. The problem is going to be with people who aren't being cautious.

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


To be frank, in the Western world there is only a list of Covid response shame, not a leaderboard.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
https://twitter.com/davidnakamura/status/1243665638893256707?s=21

Trump is telling the head of the COVID-19 task force not to call state governors he doesn't like.

Also lol:

https://twitter.com/davies_will/status/1243635666753372168?s=21

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

Darth Walrus posted:

Like, seriously, the UK's problem is that it's squandering highly useful tools for fighting a pandemic (like an advanced and well-loved public healthcare service that's free at the point of use) through incompetence and apathy. America, meanwhile, teaches its citizens to be terrified of going to the doctor because it will bankrupt them regardless of how serious their medical issue is, links what health support they have to employment, and has a president who's champing at the bit to genocide the coastal cities because the literati there were a bit too condescending to him when he attended their monthly paedophile orgies, sources all his medical advice from half-remembered Alex Jones rants, and won't let trained doctors address the nation because they'd get better TV ratings than him.

I mean yeah didn't it officially become The American Virus today just from how shitehouse the American public health system is? But got to disagree with that characterisation of Trump he definitely didn't get invited to the pedo orgies, he doesn't have the discipline to keep schtum and he's very obviously a 'big-titty young lady employee, just had to grab that pussy and pump away in missionary position go trump!' guy, he's not on the Epstein level of cruel systemic dark-rulers-of-the-world trafficking abuse.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Vitamin P posted:

I mean yeah didn't it officially become The American Virus today just from how shitehouse the American public health system is? But got to disagree with that characterisation of Trump he definitely didn't get invited to the pedo orgies, he doesn't have the discipline to keep schtum and he's very obviously a 'big-titty young lady employee, just had to grab that pussy and pump away in missionary position go trump!' guy, he's not on the Epstein level of cruel systemic dark-rulers-of-the-world trafficking abuse.

One of the Epstein articles from around the time of his death mentioned that Trump only showed up a couple of times at Epstein's parties, had a bunch of people laugh at him, and had a couple of the girls spend time with him out of pity. He went, but he was too nouveau riche to fit in.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Pound_Coin posted:

an extremely UKMT version of the co2 filter scene from apollo 13
Wank the problem.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Pound_Coin posted:

an extremely UKMT version of the co2 filter scene from apollo 13

I promise I'll never have a problem fitting something into something else

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Apparently Ruth Lawrence of Good Morning is in trouble with viewers for trying not to laugh at news of Johnson getting the virus.

Pound_Coin
Feb 5, 2004
£


Ms Adequate posted:

I promise I'll never have a problem fitting something into something else

gotta have something to do during lockdown

Fumble
Sep 4, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 14 days!
Branson is getting his begging bowl out again.

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP
So Whitty is self isolating for 7 days according to him, does that mean he's not important enough for a test?

e: gently caress me, Trump is a dumb bastard https://twitter.com/yamiche/status/1243670348211654664?s=21

Lungboy fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Mar 28, 2020

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice
Good to see that Brighthouse are joining Wonga on the shitheap of failed predatory companies run by sociopaths.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

Darth Walrus posted:

One of the Epstein articles from around the time of his death mentioned that Trump only showed up a couple of times at Epstein's parties, had a bunch of people laugh at him, and had a couple of the girls spend time with him out of pity. He went, but he was too nouveau riche to fit in.

I don't think it's necessarily nouveau riche, the official story on Epstein makes him absolute nouveau riche and like, we're pretending Obama or Zuckerberg couldn't be visiting the islands, I think it's more that Trump was always a grasping gauche outsider and that hasn't changed on becoming President. The Trump story is that he played on racial animosity and vague populism enough that he beat Clinton, the lovely DNC nothing-politics-filth-vessel that 100% has sipped a Martini while watching a trafficked child get raped on an island with a wry smile like she's not doing it so is just neutrally above it all, but that's it, Trump won by outpoliticking the opposition. He's a nasty oval office but he's not a representative of all the evil.

CancerCakes
Jan 10, 2006

Speaking of employer's taking the piss regarding essential working, the c suite exec in charge of my function has acknowledged that the work that I and others in my team is completely suitable for remote working as it is all computer touching but insists at least one person is in the office each day to "maintain visibility".

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/MedFet_UK/status/1243590308878848002?s=19

Jesus

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Lungboy posted:

So Whitty is self isolating for 7 days according to him, does that mean he's not important enough for a test?

e: gently caress me, Trump is a dumb bastard https://twitter.com/yamiche/status/1243670348211654664?s=21

there aren't any tests lol. the gov said a couple days ago if you cut through their doublespeak roughly "we don't have any tests or the capacity to make them. we won't for at least 2 weeks. we are scrambling to buy tests from anyone but everyone already bought them"

fake edit: wait this might have been ventilators, same probably goes for tests too. nicola sturgeon basically said "well we have a protocol to test important people but only if they get symptoms" so you know they're scarce as gently caress

real edit; how long is it gonna take them to loving do something? they declared the half shutdown 2 days ago then vanished. now bojo is sick, are we gonna give the virus the weekend off cause it won't be working so hard?

Communist Thoughts fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Mar 28, 2020

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
There's supposedly 3.5m tests but I have no clue how they're being doled out and half of them probably don't exist.

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

Communist Thoughts posted:

there aren't any tests lol. the gov said a couple days ago if you cut through their doublespeak roughly "we don't have any tests or the capacity to make them. we won't for at least 2 weeks. we are scrambling to buy tests from anyone but everyone already bought them"

fake edit: wait this might have been ventilators, same probably goes for tests too. nicola sturgeon basically said "well we have a protocol to test important people but only if they get symptoms" so you know they're scarce as gently caress

real edit; how long is it gonna take them to loving do something? they declared the half shutdown 2 days ago then vanished. now bojo is sick, are we gonna give the virus the weekend off cause it won't be working so hard?

Yeah but Joris and Hancock got tested quicksmart, but it sounds like Whitty just has to wait and see.

e: to your edit, i think this is going to be it until the death toll really gets crazy, when a total lockdown will happen but be far too late.

Lungboy fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Mar 28, 2020

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Lungboy posted:

Yeah but Joris and Hancock got tested quicksmart, but it sounds like Whitty just has to wait and see.

Whitty is fine he's just descending into the dungeon to feed

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
I guess this is just what we have to do now, but the calm adverts from companies about measures in store just feel like i'm living in a weird dystopian future

https://twitter.com/Tesco/status/1243670478524383232

Please keep at least two metres away from your fellow shoppers. The wreaths of garlic are here to protect us and you. If a customer begins combusting please quietly alert a member of staff - we have appropriate equipment to help those succumbing to The Particles safely pass into the netherworld. Every little helps.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

I know the Victoria line and that doesn't look like the right pole colour OR seat fabric

YOU'VE BEEN LIED TO

grey poles means it's the Jubilee

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
https://twitter.com/dawnhfoster/status/1243582566424289280?s=21

Guess they're going to be checking whether COVID-19 is transmissible to BLUE HADES.

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