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Kaal posted:Personally I'm a firm believer that making Deathwing count as both a Hero and a Monster would go a long ways towards balancing him. From what I've heard from the dwindling handful that still play this Dead Game, Deathwing is actually reasonably balanced. Not being able to be healed and literally everything he does having a wind-up keeps him in check, as does his massive vulnerability to Health Shred.
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Mar 29, 2020 10:24
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After the repeated nerfs, Deathwing can be fine in league where you're likely to build a composition against him, but he still wrecks Quick Match which is where most people actually play. He has a very narrow talent list, and he's the definition of a hero that can win the game at comp. There needs to be more ways for other heroes to engage with him mechanically.
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Mar 29, 2020 12:34
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 I wouldn't know, I'm just repeating what I've been told by people who are still in. Thinking about it, I can definitely see how his kit would be overwhelming against unprepared teams - Cho'Gall had the same issue.
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Mar 29, 2020 13:40
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The issues are about the same, but it's a slightly larger problem as he only requires one player. I think he's pretty easy to deal with, but if you are oblivious to his telegraphed wind ups and sound effects he can do a lot of poo poo for free. Any coordinated (pffft) player can play safe and whittle him down quite easily. Skill shot characters will dunk on him.
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Mar 29, 2020 13:46
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Agreed, his biggest weakness is mobility, not % damage. Nevertheless, he’s like always ban no 1 in my games, maybe after Xul.
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Mar 29, 2020 14:38
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His biggest weakness is sidestepping his thoroughly telegraphed attacks and hitting him in the neck while he's breathing fire at some minions. he is pretty drat strong on channeled objective maps if you take that talent that lets him just hang out in the sky dropping rocks on you
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Mar 29, 2020 14:47
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Death of a game you say? Yes. A good summery of events, cannot disagree with any of it really. I started at 2.0 so it was cool seeing the game pre-that and how it changed, also lol at Smash being more popular to watch competitively. 
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Mar 29, 2020 16:54
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So, uh, what happens in April when "play all heroes for free!" ends? Is it time for the big patch with a new "nexus anomaly" or something? Also I'm a little sour on the free heroes thing. I started at 2.0 and my personal goal was to unlock all heroes. Went out of my way to save every bit of gold and gems for hero unlocks. I only have 4 left at this point, so getting them all for free wasn't much of a treat for me.
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Mar 30, 2020 05:06
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HOTS was overdue for a major patch for several months. However, they """leaked""" information about how the next event they're going to be doing is based on the Greek pantheon, so maybe something will happen. Will they finally deliver on promised features from 2018? Will they release the Tassadar, D.Va, Gazlowe, The Lost Vikings, or Nova reworks that they've discussed (or in some cases promised) literally years ago? Will they fart out a new hero that will be either absurdly overpowered or appallingly underwhelming? Only time will tell!
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Mar 30, 2020 15:03
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Didn't Gazlowe get a rework semrecently? Or did he just get new talents/buffs?
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Mar 30, 2020 17:59
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Epsilon Plus posted:Didn't Gazlowe get a rework semrecently? Or did he just get new talents/buffs? He hasn't been touched since early last year, and that was only a slight change. He's been benefiting from the experience globes though.
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Mar 30, 2020 18:01
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Kith posted:HOTS was overdue for a major patch for several months. However, they """leaked""" information about how the next event they're going to be doing is based on the Greek pantheon, so maybe something will happen. New skins for rag
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Mar 30, 2020 18:18
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Epsilon Plus posted:Didn't Gazlowe get a rework semrecently? Or did he just get new talents/buffs? The last time that Gazlowe received major changes was in March of 2017, when Probius was added. The developers have stated multiple times that they're aware that players are unhappy with how clunky he is and have been "considering" solutions since at least 2018, if not earlier. Fried Watermelon posted:New skins for rag lol u mak a funy
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Mar 30, 2020 22:43
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They could have done such an easy water/air elemental thing for Ragnaros but Blizzard is a lovely, dead husk of a company. I'm sure they'd say a water one would "get too confusing with Jaina's water elemental ultimate" but that's horse poo poo because he'd be like twice as big and probably have an entirely different skin anyway. Though something tells me that a lot of their ideas for characters/balancing are due to everyone at the company being worse at the game than most of QM.
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Mar 31, 2020 21:27
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Alas, Candy King Ragnaros, you were never meant to be it seems. No smacking of enemies with your lollipop hammer, no dropping of bubble gum rolls on them or drowning them in your river of caramel 
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Mar 31, 2020 23:12
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Ahune and Murmur would be easy skins for Rag.
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Apr 1, 2020 05:52
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I can see some hesitation in giving Ragnaros a skin that makes him a different kind of elemental, simply for the "but what if we want to make a playable elemental of that type". It's not a problem for, say Therazane, but if they ever wanted to put Al'akir or Neptulon in the game, Rag cannot have an air or water elemental skin.
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Shadowlyger posted:I can see some hesitation in giving Ragnaros a skin that makes him a different kind of elemental, simply for the "but what if we want to make a playable elemental of that type". drat I guess they didn't make a Medic after Medic Uther and an Amazon after Amazon Valla They changed the medic and amazon characters to look different than the skins, no reason they couldn't do it with Al'akir or Neptulon Hell just give him Murmur or Ahune skins instead of taking the big dogs like Al'akir or Neptulon Fried Watermelon fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Apr 1, 2020 |
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Apr 1, 2020 17:18
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Level 7 Calldown: MULE (Active) Removed. (New Talent) Spawn Drone (Active) Spawns a Drone in a visible location targeting the nearest Fort or Keep (regardless of being destroyed) and morphs into a Hatchery. Hatcheries slowly repairs all structures nearby by 25 health every second and spawns a Roachling and 2 Zerglings every 25 seconds, Hatcheries have 750 health and lasts 60 seconds. 90 seconds cooldown. I really wish this april fools talent for Abathur was real, that'd be super cool.
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Apr 2, 2020 01:51
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Free heroes got extended to the 13th, if anyone even cares to play this game for that long. 
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Apr 2, 2020 03:23
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Has Ragnaros changed recently somehow? He seems way more common, and way harder to actually kill.
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Apr 2, 2020 08:26
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Shockeh posted:Has Ragnaros changed recently somehow? He seems way more common, and way harder to actually kill. Not really. I think they changed a few cool downs and health several patches ago? In qm he's basically a miracle cure for terrible aggressive teams due to Lava Wave, fixing lazy laning and level disadvantages at the press of a button.
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Apr 2, 2020 12:20
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Grei Skuring posted:Not really. I think they changed a few cool downs and health several patches ago? Fixed that for you.
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Apr 2, 2020 12:56
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Fried Watermelon posted:drat I guess they didn't make a Medic after Medic Uther and an Amazon after Amazon Valla Amazon Nova has the same outfit as Cassia, but even then they're differentiated by their overall body shape and respective weapons. All the Big Elementals in Warcraft have the same body plan of big elemental swirl with a torso on top. The biggest differences, visually, would be their colors, their shoulders, and their weapons, and you lose color if you let Rag have different elemental skins. Ragnar-O's should definitely be a skin, though.
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Apr 2, 2020 13:06
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I mean considering they're never going to actually release any of them at this point, it would've been cool. Oh well.
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Apr 2, 2020 23:13
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Murmur is coming out next and he will use the Sonic Spear he never dropped after 50 runs for me
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Apr 2, 2020 23:32
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Don't worry guys, i've been diligently emailing and campaigning on the blizzard forums for the changes we need as a community looking forward to orc deckard cain
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Ignite Memories posted:Don't worry guys, i've been diligently emailing and campaigning on the blizzard forums for the changes we need as a community Dorkard Cain sounds amazing, can't wait for this critical update.
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Apr 3, 2020 00:09
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Orc Blaze Orc Probius Orc Anub'Arak
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Apr 3, 2020 00:17
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I am so loving tired of Xul, especially Aba/Xul.
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Apr 3, 2020 01:02
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Yeah now when they break heroes we get to wait even longer for the fix. Can't wait for the next big patch where they overpower like Tracer or something. Hell maybe they should just blanket buff all OW heroes so no one has fun anymore.
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buff genji pls blizz!
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TLV need buffs (slight ones, especially to talents like Spy Games that have been obsoleted by gameplay changes), not a rework. Based on their other reworks I'm pretty sure TLV would get turned into a completely different hero that no longer split pushes and soaks XP, and that would totally kill what makes them fun and unique. Also DW is fine. Everything he does has a 1 second wind-up and is easy to dodge. His ultimate and his big fat body are his two real contributions to most games.
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Like, you can literally 1v1 Deathwing as Murky with Fish Tank. He's not a big damage threat if you move out of the way of his attacks. The other most effective thing I've seen him do is just be a really annoying split pusher. You can't really pressure him out of the lane without devoting someone who can duel him or multiple heroes, because he has a giant health pool and you can't CC him under tower.
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Android Blues posted:Like, you can literally 1v1 Deathwing as Murky with Fish Tank. If he's stupid and hasn't taken Heat Wave.
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Shadowlyger posted:If he's stupid and hasn't taken Heat Wave. You can just walk out of the range of Incinerate before it goes off. As Murky, you don't need to be autoattacking him in melee range to deal damage. He's not gonna get multiple stacks of Heat Wave up unless you have teammates letting him proc it.
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Android Blues posted:TLV need buffs (slight ones, especially to talents like Spy Games that have been obsoleted by gameplay changes), not a rework. Based on their other reworks I'm pretty sure TLV would get turned into a completely different hero that no longer split pushes and soaks XP, and that would totally kill what makes them fun and unique. What you mean is that TLV needs a rework that isn't done by Blizzard.
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Kith posted:What you mean is that TLV needs a rework that isn't done by Blizzard. Yeah, maybe. I'd like to see them get a talent rework that doesn't dramatically change the playstyle or purpose of the hero, and based on previous ex-Specialist reworks, I have a feeling a TLV rework from Blizzard right now would be a lot more sweeping than that. I really like playing TLV! They're super fun! They have been way less good since the stealth and XP globe changes, even with the stat boost they received in compensation for XP globes - and there have been a bunch of other little things that have hurt their viability over the years, like the increasing number of "hit <x> heroes" quests. I'd like to see some of their weaker talents get tuned up. I just don't want them to turn into a teamfight hero with a reduced focus on micro/map presence, and I'd be amazed if that wasn't the direction Blizzard wanted to push them in.
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Android Blues posted:Yeah, maybe. I'd like to see them get a talent rework that doesn't dramatically change the playstyle or purpose of the hero, and based on previous ex-Specialist reworks, I have a feeling a TLV rework from Blizzard right now would be a lot more sweeping than that. Yeah same. All the way around Blizzard has basically given up on their original idea of forcing teams to balance team fights with laning - the contemporary game is overwhelmingly in favor of team fights and any hero that threatens that has been methodically stripped of their laning ability.
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