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genericnick
Dec 26, 2012


I'm sorry that it has come to this, but if the EU is to survive this crisis it is the responsibility of each of us individually to cough on a German today.

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Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
circa 2009/10 people were seriously considering leaving the eu here in portugal and honestly we should prob consider that again if they're going to try this bullshit again

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
EU is dead
killed by a minor plague
https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1241717551819902977
https://twitter.com/BlackHammerOrg/status/1242151401465266182

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011




The amount of Saudi propaganda in those twitter replies is insane.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Honest Thief posted:

circa 2009/10 people were seriously considering leaving the eu here in portugal and honestly we should prob consider that again if they're going to try this bullshit again

The thing with the old crisis was that young people could still move north to find a job. If you do this poo poo when the borders are closed and the supply lines are collapsing anyway what is even the point of the EU?

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009

genericnick posted:

The thing with the old crisis was that young people could still move north to find a job. If you do this poo poo when the borders are closed and the supply lines are collapsing anyway what is even the point of the EU?

I was fresh out uni when the crisis burst and even then moving north seemed a gambit; sure, you had way more jobs, esp in my field, but it was still a lot of holding out and see if the economy turned up
I really regretted not learning german on highschool then lol

An insane mind
Aug 11, 2018

My prime minister (Rutte, the Netherlands) is such a piece of poo poo holy gently caress. We need to save the flower industry and need help from the EU. But we, no, we're not going to pull out extra money to help the Southern EU members let's not go crazy. The one time where coming together and helping people is absolutely necessary and he does this poo poo.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

This isn't true, btw

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

An insane mind posted:

My prime minister (Rutte, the Netherlands) is such a piece of poo poo holy gently caress. We need to save the flower industry and need help from the EU. But we, no, we're not going to pull out extra money to help the Southern EU members let's not go crazy. The one time where coming together and helping people is absolutely necessary and he does this poo poo.

Not least we sometimes meme a bit about money not being real, and that is not entirely false, but money does matter in some situations and not in others. This is a situation where money really does not matter, even if you're otherwise of a capitalistic mindset. We'll all go into debt to each other because of the overall slowdown, but as it is global it'll all even out. It is just numbers expressing the situation before cancelling out.

The only way to ruin that is deciding to be an rear end in a top hat to others.

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



*looks both ways*
*Harumps*

...Gelddrucker gehen brrrr....

Pope Hilarius II
Nov 10, 2008

DIES IST EIN GELDDRUECKER

ER DRUECKT GELD

brrr

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



scheißgeld imo

Dawncloack
Nov 26, 2007
ECKS DEE!
Nap Ghost

call center manager posted:

DIES IST EIN GELDDRUECKER

ER DRUECKT GELD

brrr

-NOOO!

Wolfgang Schauble wakes up with a start, drenched in sweat. His wife, shivering under a thin blaket, stirs.

- What's wrong dear?
-Nothing. Go back to sleep.

He sits up from the bed, the last strands of his nightmare still clutching the darkest parts of his mind. He picks up the phone and starts composing the number for the head of the Bundesbank.

Dawncloack has issued a correction as of 23:41 on Mar 28, 2020

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
This seems good:
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-portugal-idUKKBN21F0MC
Portugal to treat migrants as residents during coronavirus crisis

quote:

Portugal's...government has announced that most migrants, including asylum seekers, will be given the same rights as permanent residents.

This includes access to healthcare, unemployment benefits, and work.

The measures, which follow an open letter from 20 NGOs and migrant groups, will apply to all those with a pending claim and last till least 1 July

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
Dutch try to calm north-south economic storm over coronavirus
https://www.politico.eu/article/netherlands-try-to-calm-storm-over-repugnant-finance-ministers-comments/amp/

lol dutch minister not backing down, oh there's a storm coming alright

mortons stork
Oct 13, 2012
Ah yes the famous Dutch fiscal responsibility, which during this crisis has allowed them to *checks notes* immediately declare eugenics-worthy triage rules.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
Rutte has been in power for 10 years. Under his cabinets, Dutch IC capacity has been halved. Villages in East-Brabant (the heaviest hit area in NL) are burying their dead in the dozens, but because we do not have sufficient testing capacity (guess why), many of them do not even show up in the official death statistics.

The majority of the Dutch population thinks Rutte is handling this crisis admirably.

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



My main issue with this whole eurobonds thing is that the only reason we have a surplus is 10+ years of gutting our social support networks, accessibility to courts, etc. And back during the eurocrisis we where also slow to recover because of austerity measures making people unable to spend/reignite the economy.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Zedd posted:

My main issue with this whole eurobonds thing is that the only reason we have a surplus is 10+ years of gutting our social support networks, accessibility to courts, etc. And back during the eurocrisis we where also slow to recover because of austerity measures making people unable to spend/reignite the economy.

What is the relation of that to eurobonds?

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



That it's hypocritical to judge how the southern countries handled their finances in the last few years when we did just as stupid stuff and just have shinier numbers depending on how you look at them.
Like it isn't like Rutte is gonna restore the poo poo he broke down with that money instead of helping the southern countries; he wants to do neither.

Zedd has issued a correction as of 15:37 on Mar 29, 2020

An insane mind
Aug 11, 2018

Rutte is the shittiest piece of poo poo, but he's also the most recent in a long line of poo poo. Just a great big brown line of political diarreah for years. And the fact is that there are more and worse pieces of poo poo waiting in the wings to take the reins from him.

And honestly, the reason why people think he's handling it admirably is because at the moment he has Italy to point at as 'at least I'm keeping you from being them'. I'm just hoping the longer this holds and the more the Netherlands unravels (especially when South and North-Holland actually get hit with Brabant levels of the 'roni) people see him for the piece of poo poo that he is.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Glezos, Greek who tore swastika from Acropolis in WW2, dies aged 97

quote:

ATHENS (Reuters) - Manolis Glezos, a prominent Greek whose act of defiance against Nazi occupation during World War Two was a rallying cry for the country’s resistance movement, died on Monday, authorities said. He was 97.

Revered across Greece’s political spectrum, Glezos was most famous for scaling the steep walls of the Acropolis with a friend in 1941 to take down the swastika and replace it with the Greek flag.

It was the first visible act of resistance against the Nazis occupying Greece.

Glezos died of heart failure at a central Athens hospital, where he was admitted on March 18.

With his white mane of hair and thick moustache, Glezos was a recognizable fixture in leftist politics.

He braved police teargas at protest rallies against tough cuts imposed in exchange for international bailouts that kept the Greek economy afloat between 2010 and 2015.

A member of the Socialist PASOK party which he represented in the European Parliament, Glezos gradually migrated further to the political left.

At the age of 91, in 2014, he became a member of the European Parliament representing Syriza, the left-wing party which came to power in 2015. He resigned a year later.

Asked what had kept him at the forefront of politics for so long, Glezos told Reuters in 2012 that it was the memories of dead comrades.

“Before every battle, every protest, we told each other: ‘If you live, don’t forget me’. I am paying a debt to those I lost during those difficult years. My only regret is that I haven’t done more.”

Sad to lose an excellent man. The world needs more of his like.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Victor Orban has gone full hitler and Hungary votes its way into full fascism.

https://twitter.com/balazscseko/status/1244612142831198209?s=21

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

An insane mind posted:

And honestly, the reason why people think he's handling it admirably is because at the moment he has Italy to point at as 'at least I'm keeping you from being them'. I'm just hoping the longer this holds and the more the Netherlands unravels (especially when South and North-Holland actually get hit with Brabant levels of the 'roni) people see him for the piece of poo poo that he is.

I hope, but I'm seeing no signs of this, and I am in Brabant. With friends who work or are married to spouses who work in healthcare. And they think Rutte is good. It's disturbing.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

M5S turning left?

https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1244713920402567170
https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1244715272843362305

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Austrian Greens turning right?

https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1245918804879663104
https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1245920337201520641

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene
didn't the historical nsdap have environmentalist pretentions

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
Ecofascism when?


cargo cult posted:

didn't the historical nsdap have environmentalist pretentions

It kinda went along with the whole ideal image of blond Germans frolicking in proper Germanic nature like in the olden times they imagined had once existed. Kinda goes back to Romanticism which was a reaction to the conditions created by industrialization. Obviously this never held up whenever it came into contact with any industrial interests.

Orange Devil has issued a correction as of 09:00 on Apr 3, 2020

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Orange Devil posted:

Ecofascism when?


It kinda went along with the whole ideal image of blond Germans frolicking in proper Germanic nature like in the olden times they imagined had once existed. Kinda goes back to Romanticism which was a reaction to the conditions created by industrialization. Obviously this never held up whenever it came into contact with any industrial interests.

Pretty sure the idea at its most coherent was to exterminate slavic peoples for 'living space' for blonde German children to frolic in.

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene

Orange Devil posted:

Ecofascism when?


It kinda went along with the whole ideal image of blond Germans frolicking in proper Germanic nature like in the olden times they imagined had once existed. Kinda goes back to Romanticism which was a reaction to the conditions created by industrialization. Obviously this never held up whenever it came into contact with any industrial interests.
i guess it was a stupid aesthetic thing and also another example of fash syncretic incoherence given that they also worshipped their military industrial complex and its products

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Pretty sure the idea at its most coherent was to exterminate slavic peoples for 'living space' for blonde German children to frolic in.

I mean they literally created a bunch of ideal little hamlets to live their idealized lives. And then used at least one of them to train concentration camp "doctors".

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

cargo cult posted:

i guess it was a stupid aesthetic thing and also another example of fash syncretic incoherence given that they also worshipped their military industrial complex and its products

Though iirc the Nazis were hilarious bad at mass production apparently due to a German bias against it and a desire for boutique craftsmanship despite its total imrpacticality, while the Americans couldn't get enough of it and the Russians tooled up as quickly as they possibly could. I saw a whole video about it.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Orange Devil posted:

Ecofascism when?


It kinda went along with the whole ideal image of blond Germans frolicking in proper Germanic nature like in the olden times they imagined had once existed. Kinda goes back to Romanticism which was a reaction to the conditions created by industrialization. Obviously this never held up whenever it came into contact with any industrial interests.

ya there was a whole naturism movement in pre-nazi Germany that still exists.

if you see a naked person on a danish beach, odds are they're german

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!
In a move that will surprise absolutely no one except those who weren't paying attention, Orban immediately used his emergency powers to do the most important thing in these troubling times: poo poo on minorities.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/04/01/hungary-viktor-orban-trans-rights-bill-rule-decree-coronavirus-transphobia-gender-zsolt-semjen/

quote:

[Orban's] powers came into effect on Monday morning, and by the evening his deputy Zsolt Semjén had introduced a new bill which, if passed, will replace “gender” with “birth sex” in all legal documents issued in the country.

The effect of this is that Hungarian citizens will be unable to change their gender legally, a significant rollback of rights in the eastern European country.

Since data in official documents such as ID cards, driving licenses and passports are taken from the civil registry, the change would affect these as well.

The explanatory memorandum of the bill states that current legislation does not define “gender” as it is determined biologically, adding: “The gender entered into the civil registry is based on facts determined by doctors, declared by the registry.”

It further states: “Given that completely changing one’s biological gender is impossible, it is necessary to lay it down in law that it cannot be changed in the civil registry either.”

Literally far-right TERF talking points, enshrined in law. Fantastic.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



:sigh:

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Mikl posted:

In a move that will surprise absolutely no one except those who weren't paying attention, Orban immediately used his emergency powers to do the most important thing in these troubling times: poo poo on minorities.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/04/01/hungary-viktor-orban-trans-rights-bill-rule-decree-coronavirus-transphobia-gender-zsolt-semjen/


Literally far-right TERF talking points, enshrined in law. Fantastic.

I mean yes, but to be overly pedantic, that is not an expression of his new ability to govern autocratic, but of the far right majority in parliament.

Pope Hilarius II
Nov 10, 2008

Orange Devil posted:

It kinda went along with the whole ideal image of blond Germans frolicking in proper Germanic nature like in the olden times they imagined had once existed. Kinda goes back to Romanticism which was a reaction to the conditions created by industrialization. Obviously this never held up whenever it came into contact with any industrial interests.

True, though they did ban smoking in public places IIRC.

In Er ist wieder da! (a novel postulating Adolf Hitler's miraculous return to 2011 after attempting to kill himself), there's a hilarious scene in which Hitler has a televised debate with a Green politician and he keeps hammering on their common ideas, to the utter dismay of said politician, who'd obviously be committing career suicide if she's seen to agree with anything Hitler says.

There's a movie version of the novel, but it's not that good. The novel itself is quite smart, however.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

After months of "Youuu shouldn't tell off Chega! They're merely a different minded party that will spark a dynamic right answer to the Left Bloc. The Dogs Bark while the Wagon passes!!1" the sole representative from it left the parliament.

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
It's probably a marketing move, that way he avoids being called out and puts a buffer while this whole covid business plays out

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Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
nicety to hide that the EU will basically do a repeat of 10 years ago, loans in exchange for more economical measures




welp. who wants to form a southern union

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