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Wonderllama posted:
gently caress you too for implying that. Everyone here that posts on a regular basis (not you) knows I'm not a loving Trump apologist. I'm more worried about poo poo getting done and if GM was stalling the process negotiating tooling costs then gently caress them too.
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you’re just of course a trump apologist.
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Donald Trump has finally encountered a force as stupid, cheap, and inept as himself: GM
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Mar 28, 2020 00:59
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Wheeee posted:Donald Trump has finally encountered a force as stupid, cheap, and inept as himself: GM Was it Michael Dell who said about the Compaq-HP merger "it's like two garbage trucks colliding"? Words for the ages.
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Mar 28, 2020 01:02
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Applebees Appetizer posted:So GM's words are gospel then? Ok. You should make an appointment on that Google site that he didn't completely make up on the fly and then drive to a Target to get tested for Corona. But yeah, GM is the issue here.
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Mar 28, 2020 02:05
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Don't worry, hospitals don't need that many ventilators anyway. They only have two usually, why do they need 30,000 - the President of the United States
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Mar 28, 2020 02:09
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fknlo posted:You should make an appointment on that Google site that he didn't completely make up on the fly and then drive to a Target to get tested for Corona. But yeah, GM is the issue here. It has been reported that GM wanted the government to cover the retooling costs, so to me that is an issue. Just loving do it and worry about who pays for what later.
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Mar 28, 2020 02:36
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Applebees Appetizer posted:It has been reported that GM wanted the government to foot the retooling costs, so to me that is an issue. Just loving do it and worry about who pays for what later. Your mistake is assuming that trump can do anything besides trump. The benefit of the doubt is unable to be his. That's why you are being called out.
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Mar 28, 2020 02:38
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Applebees Appetizer posted:It has been reported that GM wanted the government to cover the retooling costs, so to me that is an issue. Just loving do it and worry about who pays for what later. More likely is that the White House was dithering and wouldn't commit to doing anything, leaving GM wondering WTF. It was only after public backlash that Trump decided he needed to look decisive so he took it out on GM. Remember, yesterday Trump was saying those ventilators weren't really needed.
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Mar 28, 2020 02:40
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Applebees Appetizer posted:It has been reported that GM wanted the government to cover the retooling costs, so to me that is an issue. Just loving do it and worry about who pays for what later. *rolling with the punches* GM engineering + interiors suck! *drives away in a scion xb*
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Mar 28, 2020 02:42
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KakerMix posted:Your mistake is assuming that trump can do anything besides trump. The benefit of the doubt is unable to be his. That's why you are being called out. There's nothing to be called out for, I already said I'm not a Trump apologist. What I assumed was GM being a giant capitalist corporation doing capitalist poo poo. Deteriorata posted:More likely is that the White House was dithering and wouldn't commit to doing anything, leaving GM wondering WTF. It was only after public backlash that Trump decided he needed to look decisive so he took it out on GM. Remember, yesterday Trump was saying those ventilators weren't really needed. Well I didn't hear that part of it until now, all I heard about today was him having to drop the Defense Production Act on GM
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Mar 28, 2020 02:59
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Applebees Appetizer posted:There's nothing to be called out for, I already said I'm not a Trump apologist. Trump seeks to ramp up production of medical equipment after harsh criticism of his slow response quote:Following days of sustained criticism for his administration’s slow efforts to distribute ventilators, personal protective equipment and other materials, Trump used his power under the Defense Production Act to compel a ramp-up in production.
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Mar 28, 2020 03:04
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Applebees Appetizer posted:
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KakerMix posted:
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Mar 28, 2020 03:05
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A bunch of rumors about future Toyota and Lexus vehicles leaked from a dealer presentation.
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Mar 28, 2020 03:05
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Godzilla07 posted:A bunch of rumors about future Toyota and Lexus vehicles leaked from a dealer presentation. rip Ford Bronco
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Mar 28, 2020 03:11
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KakerMix posted:rip Ford Bronco I’ll believe it when I see it. The current 4Runner is pretty crappy and ancient relative to the dollars they want for it. Even my stupid Land Cruiser has some really cheap stuff inside and it’s a ‘13. Way more likely the LC gets rona’d Also Toyota isn’t cool enough to go balls out and do a removable roof
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Tremek posted:I’ll believe it when I see it. The current 4Runner is pretty crappy and ancient relative to the dollars they want for it. Even my stupid Land Cruiser has some really cheap stuff inside and it’s a ‘13. Way more likely the LC gets rona’d I adore 70 series so I always hope Toyota will slide the Land Cruiser more toward that, Lexus for the luxury and why not go for the #vanlife crowd with the Land Cruiser? Those guys spend goofy money on 70s. You're right, it is probably wishful thinking. Though I suppose Lexus' market share might shrink dramatically in the next few months.
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Mar 28, 2020 03:26
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Applebees Appetizer posted:So GM's words are gospel then? Ok. It’s pretty transparently because the ceo of gm is a woman. Go read his tweet. Hope this helps grandpa.
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Mar 28, 2020 03:29
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Sadly I think it’s really likely we will see a lot of models never get redesigned and either just stop production entirely now or peter out until they’re discontinued and never come back. The actual automotive golden age was the 2010s
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Suzuki NZ is doing Jimny flatdeck conversions, which are awesome:  But not awesome is the price, NZ$37990, $12K more than an entry level Jimny with more equipment. That’s almost single cab Colorado or twin cab Navara pricing. On the other hand, this thing will billy goat up some high country farm trails you wouldn’t take those bigger trucks up. BuckyDoneGun fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Mar 28, 2020 |
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Mar 28, 2020 03:59
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KakerMix posted:I adore 70 series so I always hope Toyota will slide the Land Cruiser more toward that, Lexus for the luxury and why not go for the #vanlife crowd with the Land Cruiser? Those guys spend goofy money on 70s. It won't be like a 70, those are all but unusable on the road and big diesel engines are a dead end. I'd imagine it'll be more of a Prado/Lexus GX replacement.
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dissss posted:It won't be like a 70, those are all but unusable on the road and big diesel engines are a dead end.  OG Prados are 70s  I think 70s are among the best vehicles ever made, but that's besides the point. Just take the current Land Cruiser, keep all the diff locking rock crawling stuff, the gasoline engine, and just gear it more toward something like the FJ Cruiser. Give it a front fascia that looks like the old 60s. Give it fabric seats, make it just as expensive. I think you could sell it to the people that want a Land Cruiser and can afford it, while also snagging the dudes that spend 120k on a 70 Troopy from 1994.
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Mar 28, 2020 05:21
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KakerMix posted:rip Ford Bronco I saw an early 80 series the other day with untinted windows and cloth seats and I would love to see something adjacent to that again. Throw in a smaller displacement turbodiesel and, as my dad might say, 'my dick would be so hard a cat couldn't scratch it.'
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Mar 28, 2020 09:02
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Tremek posted:I’ll believe it when I see it. The current 4Runner is pretty crappy and ancient relative to the dollars they want for it. Even my stupid Land Cruiser has some really cheap stuff inside and it’s a ‘13. Way more likely the LC gets rona’d Out of curiosity, how do you like it?
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Residency Evil posted:Out of curiosity, how do you like it? The Land Cruiser? It’s pretty good. It’s way better on Icon coilovers than it was on stock suspension, which I didn’t love. I liked it more on the BFG KO2s I had on it before than the Falken AT3Ws it’s wearing now. Since I have owned it (almost 4 years) the poor truck has been run into twice, been hit with softball-sized hail, and survived the house fire only a little bit melty. It’s seen some poo poo. My biggest complaints about it: half the HVAC controls are buried in the display menus, 1st to 2nd gear upshifts are way too early probably in some vain quest for fuel economy and it doesn’t pay attention to steering angle so if you pull out sedately to try to accelerate and merge into traffic it’s already upshifted into 2nd and then you have to mash the accelerator. The electronics are old and the cameras are low res and worthless. Also the steering rack ratio is way too fast and overboosted off center, and the steering wheel is half lacquered wood and half leather, and only the leather portion is heated which is dumb. I guess the good things too: it’s been reliable, seems generally well put together, I have dropped it off of rocks onto sliders that I would have sworn would have broken something and it’s been completely unphased, the 5.7 makes pretty good power and it does alright at towing. I think I’m turning it into my airport beater and ditching the Raptor once there’s buyers for things like expensive trucks again. Tremek fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Mar 28, 2020 |
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Tremek posted:The Land Cruiser? It’s pretty good. It’s way better on Icon coilovers than it was on stock suspension, which I didn’t love. I liked it more on the BFG KO2s I had on it before than the Falken AT3Ws it’s wearing now. Is the fuel economy as terrible as the EPA estimates make it out to be? Would it be a terrible highway commuter?
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Residency Evil posted:Is the fuel economy as terrible as the EPA estimates make it out to be? Would it be a terrible highway commuter? its a Land Cruiser
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Proud Christian Mom posted:its a Land Cruiser  I want to hear him say it.
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Mar 28, 2020 22:50
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I think it averages like 12.5 mpg in our hands. It’s not great. However consider we do a fair bit of city cycle driving, it’s lifted, and on ATs. I’d expect 15-17 highway factory. I remember seeing like a 4 mpg difference between going 65 and 75.
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I really want an 80 of 100 series but I commute way too much to abide that efficiency. Maybe I’ll bite the bullet and import a Prado when this 4th gen 4Runner kicks it.
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Tremek posted:I think it averages like 12.5 mpg in our hands. It’s not great. hahaha ok thanks
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LeeMajors posted:I really want an 80 of 100 series but I commute way too much to abide that efficiency. To compare directly to Tremek's Cruiser, with these KZ Prados we get around 18 mpg mostly city driving. The earlier L Prados get the same economy but they are much lower down on power. Having had both I wouldn't even bother with an L unless it was in fantastic condition and, of course, manual  Because the 90s I'd assume an automatic would get worse economy, but I couldn't say as I've never done an auto. A Prado is much lighter on its feet and athletic than the 80 series we had at least, I imagine that holds true comparing it to any newer comfort cruiser. Upright seating, fantastic visibility, etc etc. KZs have a whopping 130~ hp but a respectable 210~ torques. We've been daily driving Prados as our main car for three years now and they are fantastic. However you can get a lot of USDM Cruiser for what a good Prado costs...
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KakerMix posted:However you can get a lot of USDM Cruiser for what a good Prado costs... The five speed tho
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Mar 29, 2020 02:01
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Sacrifices must be made, and that sacrifice is dollar bills in order to waggle a stick. 
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KakerMix posted:Sacrifices must be made, and that sacrifice is dollar bills in order to waggle a stick. Oh that's so fuckin good edit I love the design of the oil/water/batt/fuel gauges. That looks really good.
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Mar 29, 2020 03:11
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Detroit auto show, originally rescheduled for June is now cancelled. The convention center is being converted into a field hospital.
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So, apparently GM is now doing a "great job." https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...eedName=topNews
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https://www.motor1.com/news/406765/2020-genesis-g80-horsepower-details/ More details on the new G80. I like it, even though I'm not sure how I feel about that steering wheel. I do wish there was a crazy N performance version, but 375HP on the top end mill isn't bad.
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KillHour posted:https://www.motor1.com/news/406765/2020-genesis-g80-horsepower-details/ Where the G90 looked okay the G80 looks strange in those pictures somehow. Maybe it’s the color and over aggressive image enhancement? Shame about the V8. Bring on the N80. Or really the GV70 and GV90.
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Love eveything about it except that it won't fit in my parking space.
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