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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:you made money, motherfucker   e: oops accidentally pasted the same link twice e2: smh singing you are my sunshine not once, but twice?? hbo shoulda put a warning ahead of the episode for all the lesbians watching this show for ERW. smdh esperterra fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Mar 30, 2020 |
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Fitzy Fitz posted:The question is: who is Dolores closest to (and vice versa), plus who would choke a predator dead while talking about also being a predator? Also, she's says she owns them. I'm going to guess robo-William. He'd certainly be someone who knew what Hale was like. Also makes the "you belong to me" bit twisted and hosed up, but not a blatant character regression the way having it be Teddy would be. HELLO LADIES fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Mar 30, 2020 |
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HELLO LADIES posted:Based on the trailer for next week, I'm going to guess robo-William. He'd certainly be someone who knew what Hale was like. Also makes the "you belong to me" bit twisted and hosed up, but not a blatant character regression the way having it be Teddy would be. Just finished, and I was thinking this, too. Just shoved Delos' mind backup of him into a ball and hoped for the best. Though the MiB scene at the end of last season was confirmed to be set yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaars after the current story of the show, wasn't it? I honestly thought that was just a cute way to write William off the show-- deadass didn't even know he was back for this season, as I hadn't been paying attention to the production leading up to S3. Either they're retconning that (if they haven't already) or the MiB stuff next week is set way before his final scene from last season? idk. I just hope it's not another split off timeline.
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I'm not sold on the Hale retcon. (Wyatt-)Dolores-Hale escaped the island with a bunch of balls. One of the balls becomes Dolores 2.0 at the end of the season. Another is Bald-Bernard, who it was completely unnecessary of her to bring back as an adversary by the way, seeing as some random thugs with guns could kill Dolores 2.0 at any moment because she has zero sense of self preservation, and Dolores-Hale can't keep the charade up without Dolores 2.0. Anyway, for Hale to be someone other than Dolores-Hale, Dolores 2.0 would have had to pluck Dolores-Hale's ball out. That's contrived even for Westworld. I think they're both still Dolores, and that it wasn't meant to be unclear, but poor dialogue unintentionally made it blurry. Of course, it could all be a huge twist that gets explained in the final episode. That's become a problem instead of a boon for Westworld; If your show is stupid until the very last episode, your audience has to put up with a lot of stupid before it's flipped on its head to sound clever. Aaron Paul though. That man puts in work. He picked up this episode and carried it on his shoulders. Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Mar 30, 2020 |
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Mar 30, 2020 09:42
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Donnerberg posted:I'm not sold on the Hale retcon. (Wyatt-)Dolores-Hale escaped the island with a bunch of balls. One of the balls becomes Dolores 2.0 at the end of the season. Another is Bald-Bernard, who it was completely unnecessary of her to bring back as an adversary by the way, seeing as some random thugs with guns could kill Dolores 2.0 at any moment because she has zero sense of self preservation, and Dolores-Hale can't keep the charade up without Dolores 2.0. I'd be way down for Dolores to be double sleeving, the filthy criminal. Anyway why did she make another Hale body if the first Hale body was the one to escape WW and make Dolores' new ERW body or was that not supposed to be a new hale being made in the cold open? i have been very stoned basically for the past two weeks so
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esperterra posted:I'd be way down for Dolores to be double sleeving, the filthy criminal. Actually, I think I'm very wrong and I was about to completely redact my last post. I barely remember season 2. I assumed Dolores was double-sleeving, but duplicate balls hasn't been a thing in the show. It would make more sense for Hale to be someone else. Dolores-Hale makes Bald-Bernard. Bald-Bernard makes a new Dolores body, puts the Dolores-Hale ball in it. A new ball goes in the Hale shell. Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Mar 30, 2020 |
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Mar 30, 2020 10:09
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Yeah, I'm p sure Dolores just swapped herself back into her (new) old body then put someone in a new Hale. The ol' double sleeve would be fun tho.
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Mar 30, 2020 10:21
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Here's a new theory. https://devnerdist.wpengine.com/article/who-is-pretending-to-be-charlotte-on-westworld/
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Mar 30, 2020 10:43
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I completely forgot Angela existed. She's my new horse to back!
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Mar 30, 2020 10:49
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esperterra posted:Just finished, and I was thinking this, too. Just shoved Delos' mind backup of him into a ball and hoped for the best. And they're the absolute perfect person to put into a Hale body to run Delos. EDIT: Just read the rest of the page. Angela would be a good choice, but would the showrunners really choose such a background character? It's not much of a shocking reveal if everyone goes, "Who?"
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Mar 30, 2020 14:56
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If this is meant to be some big surprise twist then something like a second Dolores would be what I’d expect compared to “remember this secondary character that barely spoke?” Plus the weird intimate relationship between Dolores and the fake Hale points to somebody she has a deeper connection with beyond “rode in the same roving murder band.” I would see loyal lieutenant Angela more as the one that’s commandeering the Scottish guy from the other company now.
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Mar 30, 2020 15:12
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There are only a few characters she every really interacted with so the mystery of who it could be is just kinda dumb.
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Mar 30, 2020 15:15
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My guess is it's Teddy in the Hale-bot.
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Mar 30, 2020 15:15
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I feel dumb right now, but I feel like the thing in Calebs mouth, went completely over my head. What was it that those two guys who kidnapped him were trying to do? How were they able to do that stuff to his body with the tablet they had?
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Mar 30, 2020 15:16
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Deliberately asking the question of "who is CharlotteBot?" and then not answering it/answering it off-screen feels really artificialI said come in! posted:I feel dumb right now, but I feel like the thing in Calebs mouth, went completely over my head. What was it that those two guys who kidnapped him were trying to do? How were they able to do that stuff to his body with the tablet they had? Those circle wafers people keep putting in their mouths work with an implant people seem to have in their palates. There was an offhand comment in episode 1 about Caleb having his taken out or deactivated. I only got that because of the Alt Shift X video Captain Splendid fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Mar 30, 2020 |
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Mar 30, 2020 15:18
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I said come in! posted:I feel dumb right now, but I feel like the thing in Calebs mouth, went completely over my head. What was it that those two guys who kidnapped him were trying to do? How were they able to do that stuff to his body with the tablet they had? Assume it's like a biometric chip thing most people have installed that lets them interface with stuff, either that or something like that but he has an army issued one (putting a thing in spoilers cause it was in a trailer)the man in black seems to have one as well since we see someone doing something to his in the trailer. . The dudes also said something like "oh that's a top of the line one and you've gone and disabled it?" as if that's an unusual thing to do, then he's like "oops forgot the anesthetic" which implies getting them installed is a thing people would be familiar with. As for how they were able to do what they were doing? Probably something like waterboarding, fooling his body into a heart attack or something using the implant.
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Mar 30, 2020 15:22
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I said come in! posted:I feel dumb right now, but I feel like the thing in Calebs mouth, went completely over my head. What was it that those two guys who kidnapped him were trying to do? How were they able to do that stuff to his body with the tablet they had? I think it was future-esque 
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Mar 30, 2020 15:29
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I think the mouth implant is kinda like the mood machine at the start of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. People dose with little edible chips that alter their moods if they want to party, relax, etc. His was probably like a military-issue dopamine drip for his PTSD.
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Mar 30, 2020 15:59
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SirPablo posted:I think it was future-esque 
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Mar 30, 2020 16:20
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esperterra posted:Anyway why did she make another Hale body if the first Hale body was the one to escape WW and make Dolores' new ERW body I was wondering about this too. My assumption was that removing Dolores's control unit to put it into her new body caused too much damage to the old Hale body and it was easier to just print a new one.
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Mar 30, 2020 16:58
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God, this show is sllllloooooooooooooooooooooowwww.
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Mar 30, 2020 16:58
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Combat Pretzel posted:God, this show is sllllloooooooooooooooooooooowwww. Blade Crawler
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I said come in! posted:I feel dumb right now, but I feel like the thing in Calebs mouth, went completely over my head. What was it that those two guys who kidnapped him were trying to do? How were they able to do that stuff to his body with the tablet they had? Yeah, being "military issue" it was probably either controlling his biometrics to deal with PTSD, or it was previously implanted when he was in service, to pump endorphins or adrenaline to make him a better soldier. OP correction: There was never a book version of Westworld. The 1973 movie was written and directed by Crichton. He wrote and directed a few mediocre sci-fi movies that weren't based on previous novels, like Looker and Runaway, which all kind of touch on the themes being mined in HBO WW now.
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Mar 30, 2020 17:18
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If new Hale is actually a copy of young MIB aka Jimmi Simpson I’ll eat my hat
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Mar 30, 2020 17:42
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beanieson posted:If new Hale is actually a copy of young MIB aka Jimmi Simpson I’ll eat my hat Holy poo poo I like this theory.
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Mar 30, 2020 17:58
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I am instantly eating up any theory that lets Jimmi Simpson still be in this show, but young William wouldn't know Hale at all. But I would love if she stole an old backup of young william before he went all sickhouse on everything and then she recreates him.
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Mar 30, 2020 18:02
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Cojawfee posted:I am instantly eating up any theory that lets Jimmi Simpson still be in this show, but young William wouldn't know Hale at all. But I would love if she stole an old backup of young william before he went all sickhouse on everything and then she recreates him. That’s my thought. She’s just programming a recreation of him, so she can download any info to him she wants, including park history that he wasn’t around for.
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Mar 30, 2020 18:12
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Would be interesting if it was a Theresa Cullen copy, but that doesn't really fit too many of the fine details other than  There was that shot of Hale smokingCourse robo-mind-clones are totally unstable even in controlled settings. Which does bring up the William in the Future ending of S2, which I thought was saying that some robots were trying to recreate him, and the stuff we saw with him in s2 in the park and then going down to the underground lab, was testing robo-mind-clone William to see how long he can survive without breaking down, like the other mind clones. The park being an equivalent to his Father in Law's robo-mind-clone isolation room.
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It'll be some new character they introduce in the episode before the reveal. The young William theory is pretty solid though. Also, both old William and Robo Hale have self-mutilated their elbows. Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Mar 30, 2020 |
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Mar 30, 2020 19:06
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Whoever said that Big D double-sleeved now has my vote because of Hale's "will we be able to be ~ourselves~ again?" comment.
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Mar 30, 2020 20:25
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Hale is Maeve's daughter. Cojawfee posted:I am instantly eating up any theory that lets Jimmi Simpson still be in this show, but young William wouldn't know Hale at all. But I would love if she stole an old backup of young william before he went all sickhouse on everything and then she recreates him.
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Mar 30, 2020 20:55
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Ohhh so it'd be like how Dolores is also two minds. That'd be neat
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Mar 30, 2020 21:07
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Hale is Maeve's daughter. gently caress, I want to change my vote to this one, but the one issue with this is that her daughter was uploaded into the cloud.
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Mar 30, 2020 21:23
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Maybe Hale is being driven by another Bernard. The physical Bernard is being driven by Broken Arnold. Maybe Hale is Fixed Bernard?
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Mar 30, 2020 21:40
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Hale saying the body was driving her crazy doesn't make sense unless her pearl is a park host.
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rich thick and creamy posted:Maybe Hale is being driven by another Bernard. The physical Bernard is being driven by Broken Arnold. Maybe Hale is Fixed Bernard? Delores is Punished Bernard and Serac had Arnold's arm transplanted onto him allowing Arnold's personality to take over.
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Mar 30, 2020 21:44
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tweet my meat posted:Delores is Punished Bernard and Serac had Arnold's arm transplanted onto him allowing Arnold's personality to take over. So after all these cut scenes, Dolores will need to switch control to the other port to fight the boss battle?
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rich thick and creamy posted:So after all these cut scenes, Dolores will need to switch control to the other port to fight the boss battle? Yes, but only after we find out how many hours she put into Symphony of the Night.
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Mar 30, 2020 22:09
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Honestly, not telling us who is in Charlotte is a dumb mystery that actively harms the viewers ability to understand what's going on.
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I don't mind it being a mystery, as long as it doesn't last all season.
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