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smertrioslol posted:I just lost an aunt to this poo poo and I had just last night looked at the timeline of hate mango denying this all and failing any sort of containment until it couldn’t be ignored and it strikes me that her death was very preventable. gently caress this dark timeline forever That Works posted:You have my condolences and shared anger about this. Same here. Very sorry for your loss, you have my sympathies. This loving shitshow was entirely preventable. EDIT: Stupid snipe, have a pic of Olive and her duck. 
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I don't know if yall can answer this: but my younger Brother was kinda liberal, in the didn't think too hard about poo poo way where you're just kinda chill with people who weren't loving with you. Joins the army, doesn't leave the US, and spends his entire contract at Lewis-McChord, get's med separated(army docs screwed him up), and somehow ends up as this weirdo who basically parrots Rush Limbaugh talking points, griping about welfare queens, and how he EARNED HIS BENEFITS AND BUILD THE WALL MAGA!! Is this common?
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Defenestrategy posted:I don't know if yall can answer this: but my younger Brother was kinda liberal, in the didn't think too hard about poo poo way where you're just kinda chill with people who weren't loving with you. Joins the army, doesn't leave the US, and spends his entire contract at Lewis-McChord, get's med separated(army docs screwed him up), and somehow ends up as this weirdo who basically parrots Rush Limbaugh talking points, griping about welfare queens, and how he EARNED HIS BENEFITS AND BUILD THE WALL MAGA!! Is this common? If I was still in I would likely be way more right wing. Not sure if I would be broke brained enough to be on the Trumpwagon but also not ruling it out as a possibility.
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Jarmak posted:This forum is not typical It's a symptom of a greater problem. The inability to look reality in the eye.
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Defenestrategy posted:I don't know if yall can answer this: but my younger Brother was kinda liberal, in the didn't think too hard about poo poo way where you're just kinda chill with people who weren't loving with you. Joins the army, doesn't leave the US, and spends his entire contract at Lewis-McChord, get's med separated(army docs screwed him up), and somehow ends up as this weirdo who basically parrots Rush Limbaugh talking points, griping about welfare queens, and how he EARNED HIS BENEFITS AND BUILD THE WALL MAGA!! Is this common? If he was combat arms he was likely surrounded by that garbage 24/7. If he is at all impressionable, well, there's your answer.
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not caring here posted:If he was combat arms he was likely surrounded by that garbage 24/7. If he is at all impressionable, well, there's your answer. On top of that, being at JBLM will have been pissing off all of the MAGA dudes because of how they're "surrounded by these goddamned liberals", in my experience.
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Defenestrategy posted:I don't know if yall can answer this: but my younger Brother was kinda liberal, in the didn't think too hard about poo poo way where you're just kinda chill with people who weren't loving with you. Joins the army, doesn't leave the US, and spends his entire contract at Lewis-McChord, get's med separated(army docs screwed him up), and somehow ends up as this weirdo who basically parrots Rush Limbaugh talking points, griping about welfare queens, and how he EARNED HIS BENEFITS AND BUILD THE WALL MAGA!! Is this common? I cannot give a direct answer because there's a wide swath of variables. I'll be honest, my idiot rear end, all of 20 years old, raised in rural towns and on a farm, with a pyramid scheme addict father who watched and listened to a lot of dumb conservative poo poo on the reg, post-9/11, was fairly conservative when I joined the military. I had already lost my grasp and give-a-poo poo about religion. I was the first person in my family to join since a long forgotten great uncle who disowned the family and left with no forward address. The salvaging of my life from conservativism was my year in Korea. It was my first duty station. I was fortunate to have a roommate that was smarter than me and would walk me through discussions on topics that made sense in a way that wasn't demonizing voices on the radio. He introduced me to SA in general back in 2003 and my mind has been rotted out by the forums ever since. I honestly grew more as a person in that year than any time prior or since. Then I rotated back to Campbell, off to Iraq, back to Campbell, just loving done with dog and pony bullshit and ready to be out, with a pile of back problems. The big change though, was that roommate in Korea. Dude really helped, more than he knows. It's always the people you find yourself with that influence you the most.
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not caring here posted:If he was combat arms he was likely surrounded by that garbage 24/7. If he is at all impressionable, well, there's your answer. Most people are sponges and don't want to rock the boat so when stupid poo poo permeates their environment it'll almost invariably go unchallenged
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smertrioslol posted:I just lost an aunt to this poo poo and I had just last night looked at the timeline of hate mango denying this all and failing any sort of containment until it couldn’t be ignored and it strikes me that her death was very preventable. gently caress this dark timeline forever Sorry to hear dude. Condolences.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:While the draft plays a huge role in our cultural memory of Vietnam, only a third of the US troops who fought there were drafted. Even during the worst parts of the war, there were still plenty of good 'ol boys willing to fight the commies for Uncle Sam. And afterwards, a huge number of them didn't believe we lost because we spent a decade and fifty thousand American lives playing not to lose with a complete lack of any coherent political or military strategy, but instead that we could have won if not for those goddamn longhairs and gutless politicians, who protested the war and dodged the draft while they and their buddies fought and died to preserve the American Way in Southeast Asia. This is probably the biggest reason many vets swing right, along with the fact that their peer group probably are not bleeding heart liberals. My Dad started his career in a combat unit in Vietnam 69-70 and finally ended after participating in OIF. Though I can say he is not a fan of Washington in general, his disdain for the left, mostly stemming from his experiences during and immediately after the Vietnam era, will keep him on the right. To help put this in context, I have memories of him and his Army buddies celebrating on the Kent State massacre anniversaries...
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Defenestrategy posted:I don't know if yall can answer this: but my younger Brother was kinda liberal, in the didn't think too hard about poo poo way where you're just kinda chill with people who weren't loving with you. Joins the army, doesn't leave the US, and spends his entire contract at Lewis-McChord, get's med separated(army docs screwed him up), and somehow ends up as this weirdo who basically parrots Rush Limbaugh talking points, griping about welfare queens, and how he EARNED HIS BENEFITS AND BUILD THE WALL MAGA!! Is this common? yeah, I think its a coping mechanism. The largest demographic for stolen valor are nam vets that weren't in combat saying they were.
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If somebody's vaguely liberal because they just kinda go with whatever and don't actually apply critical thought, being around a conservative peer group is going to push them far right very easily. See also: the well-documented ties between right wing hate groups and gaming communities
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Crazy Mike posted:The military also seems like one of the highest probability ways to turn a poor kid into a middle class kid. As much as the army sucks, it sucks slightly less than not being able to afford rent and groceries. This is my story. I grew up with food scarcity and moving from place to place when we got evicted. Three square meals and a nice place in the burbs with free healthcare and education benefits I gave to my son. Shame about all the lovely stuff I had to do over the years to get these things but it made me want the same benefits for all of the people I see struggling. Sure you might not get to be a billionaire but there is something to be said for living comfortably.
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smertrioslol posted:I just lost an aunt to this poo poo and I had just last night looked at the timeline of hate mango denying this all and failing any sort of containment until it couldn’t be ignored and it strikes me that her death was very preventable. gently caress this dark timeline forever I’m so sorry for your loss. I’m loving furious at everyone who let it get this bad. My immunocompromised mother who has was an ER/ICU nurse for 25 years is voluntarily going back to bedside care today because they don’t have enough staff in Chicago and are out of ventilators. I’m scared. She’s been texting me about it and I can’t shake the feeling she’s saying goodbye. I’ve tried talking her out of it.
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Hekk posted:Shame about all the lovely stuff I had to do over the years to get these things Wasn't there a phrase for this? Basically if the people felt the bad things they were doing weren't just or necessary it tended to gently caress them up in its own way. I know there's a particular phrase that I've seen bandied about
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Milo and POTUS posted:Wasn't there a phrase for this? Basically if the people felt the bad things they were doing weren't just or necessary it tended to gently caress them up in its own way. I know there's a particular phrase that I've seen bandied about “Moral injury” is what you’re looking for. e: have a link https://www.ptsd.va.gov/professional/treat/cooccurring/moral_injury.asp
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https://twitter.com/nicolesjchung/status/1244621613561241602 Glad to see Americans are reacting in a crisis in the way they know best, racism.
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Would that be inclusive of conscientious objection? Old crusty Vietnam vet joke, conscientious objector is another name for a Canadian.
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:https://twitter.com/nicolesjchung/status/1244621613561241602 Yup, right where I expected it to go. Wife is basically 100% self quarantined. No real fear of the virus given our ages. She could just feel where this was headed when dealing with white people and has basically noped out of society until the shitgibbon and his minions stop blaring their bigoted rhetoric to the cult followers.
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bird food bathtub posted:She could just feel where this was headed when dealing with white people and has basically noped out of society until the shitgibbon and his minions stop blaring their bigoted rhetoric to the cult followers. So never?
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:https://twitter.com/nicolesjchung/status/1244621613561241602 bird food bathtub posted:Yup, right where I expected it to go. Wife is basically 100% self quarantined. No real fear of the virus given our ages. She could just feel where this was headed when dealing with white people and has basically noped out of society until the shitgibbon and his minions stop blaring their bigoted rhetoric to the cult followers. Yep, the day prez called it "Chinese Virus" on his twitter within 2 hours I saw dozens of blue checked talking heads banging the "What do we need to do business with China for ever again anyway?" and lots of soft "China bad" poo poo. I texted my buddy whose wife is ethnically Chinese and kids favor her and told him to be extra careful.
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:https://twitter.com/nicolesjchung/status/1244621613561241602 That’s so messed up. China isn’t telling older Americans to keep going to choir practice or pack pews.
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That Works posted:Yep, the day prez called it "Chinese Virus" on his twitter within 2 hours I saw dozens of blue checked talking heads banging the "What do we need to do business with China for ever again anyway?" and lots of soft "China bad" poo poo. I texted my buddy whose wife is ethnically Chinese and kids favor her and told him to be extra careful. it sucks that they're right for the wrong reasons.
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Just ask them if the free market was wrong all this time.
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Madurai posted:Just ask them if the free market was wrong all this time. That joke about capitalism cannot fail, only be failed? Not remotely a joke
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https://twitter.com/CarlBeijer/status/1244698628612067330?s=20 That's springer is so cute, think that's gonna be what we get as a second dog this summer. Our dog enjoying checking to figure out what I'm doing when I am doing RingFit. Edit: Whoops, meant that for the dog thread but w/e Nick Soapdish fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Mar 30, 2020 |
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Nick Soapdish posted:https://twitter.com/CarlBeijer/status/1244698628612067330?s=20 Looks like a Brittany to me, but can't tell without seeing the tail. You leave that dog post right here, mister. We need doggo photos to bring the mood back from all the sour news.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:
You sure that’s a doggo? All I see is a series of triangles that wants you to throw the ball (you monster, do it!).
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Milo and POTUS posted:What's in the window?  Serious answer, I'm presuming something to do with negative pressure in parts of the hospital.
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