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Eric the Mauve posted:I wonder just how long The Athletic’s VC can hold out before they also do massive layoffs and the whole thing goes down in flames i mean i've been predicting doom and gloom for a year now but if anything digital media should be a relatively unaffected market as long as there is still some sort of news to report on; the athletic also does yearly subscriptions so while they might not meet their growth goals they probably won't shed many readers either in the "no sports for half a year" scenario it's not just the athletic but any site that sticks to "just sports" that's gonna be running short on ad revenue; some (like sb nation) have parent companies that will effectively let them weather the storm but anyone who actually owns their own site is gonna be hosed
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Declan MacManus posted:in the "no sports for half a year" scenario it's not just the athletic but any site that sticks to "just sports" that's gonna be running short on ad revenue; some (like sb nation) have parent companies that will effectively let them weather the storm but anyone who actually owns their own site is gonna be hosed And ESPN's front page has been brutal for the last few weeks. How many mock drafts can they hold?
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Apr 1, 2020 05:14
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I was pretty bullish on The Athletic relative to some of the criticism it got -- all the sports/teams I follow had really good content at price I was happy to pay -- but IDK how they survive when there is an entire year with no sports to produce even hypothetical content about.
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KICK BAMA KICK posted:I was pretty bullish on The Athletic relative to some of the criticism it got -- all the sports/teams I follow had really good content at price I was happy to pay -- but IDK how they survive when there is an entire year with no sports to produce even hypothetical content about. People are too lazy to cancel subscriptions
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hating VC /PE guys aside, i hope the athletic is able to weather it. it's a good site with some good writers and sports journalism would be worse without it atm imo
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Apr 1, 2020 07:37
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The Athletic has been actually pretty good the last few weeks. They’re letting the beat reporters pull even more stories out — the Blazers reporter is recalling stories from the Jail Blazer era, and the soccer writers in the UK are talking about “all time” stuff for the teams they cover. Considering the European soccer vertical only really started this year, it’s not like they’re re-using story ideas they ran recently. Not having offices or rent to pay will help keep their overhead low as well. I like it and I’ll probably re-sub once mine expires as well. When sports were around it was great.
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Apr 1, 2020 08:00
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FMguru posted:And ESPN's front page has been brutal for the last few weeks. How many mock drafts can they hold? No kidding. It’s my worst nightmare. Nothing but mock drafts and NFL free agency moves. I don’t even think the olympics getting postponed garnered the top story.
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Apr 1, 2020 12:56
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Even if this virus never happened, David Stern could be caught doing blow off a hooker's rear end the night before the NBA finals by ESPN's own cameras and the top ESPN.com story would switch to Mel Kiper's top 10 underrated quarterback picks within an hour.
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DJExile posted:Even if this virus never happened, David Stern could be caught doing blow off a hooker's rear end the night before the NBA finals by ESPN's own cameras and the top ESPN.com story would switch to Mel Kiper's top 10 underrated quarterback picks within an hour. For most commissioners this would be true but considering that would mean he’s undead I think they’d stick with Stern as the main story.
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DJExile posted:Even if this virus never happened, David Stern could be caught doing blow off a hooker's rear end the night before the NBA finals by ESPN's own cameras and the top ESPN.com story would switch to Mel Kiper's top 10 underrated quarterback picks within an hour. I feel like Stern rising from the dead might be a bigger story. efb
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Apr 1, 2020 14:02
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lmao son of a bitch I keep loving up Stern and Silver
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Mahoning posted:I don’t even think the olympics getting postponed garnered the top story.
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Lockback posted:I feel like Stern rising from the dead might be a bigger story. I guess it's not that surprising that with all the other poo poo that's been going on in the past year that I somehow completely missed that David Stern died 3 months ago.
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Apr 1, 2020 17:08
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FMguru posted:ESPN's near-total embargo on Olympics news (because ABC-Disney-ESPN has no stake in them) is always funny. I remember summer 2012 when SportsCenter was literally 20 minutes of Tim Tebow working out with the Jets, followed by 30 seconds of Americans winning gold medals in London. Isn't part of this that the IOC is incredibly stingy with video rights?
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zakharov posted:Isn't part of this that the IOC is incredibly stingy with video rights? Yeah they basically can't show anything aside from still frames afaik
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zakharov posted:Isn't part of this that the IOC is incredibly stingy with video rights? Yeah this is a huge part of it. ESPN definitely doesn't give a gently caress about things that don't run on their networks but the IOC puts video rights on harder lockdown than even FIFA does with world cup clips
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No Safe Word posted:I guess it's not that surprising that with all the other poo poo that's been going on in the past year that I somehow completely missed that David Stern died 3 months ago. Stern was COVID patient zero and Kobe was shot down by Iranian proxies with Chinese funding, you heard it here first folks.
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DJExile posted:Yeah this is a huge part of it. ESPN definitely doesn't give a gently caress about things that don't run on their networks but the IOC puts video rights on harder lockdown than even FIFA does with world cup clips gently caress the IOC in pretty much every way
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The IOC is so tight with video restrictions, they’re trying to get people to not even take and upload video on their smartphones for Good luck with that.
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MourningView posted:Yeah they basically can't show anything aside from still frames afaik i remember producing sportscasts during the 2010 Olympics (Mizzou runs the Mid-Missouri NBC affiliate as a training ground for its J-school) and remember getting this email from our station director: some of the rules may have changed since then but this is the general idea posted:NBC's rules for use of its video are very strict and come with equally weighty penalties. It's important that everyone read and understand what we can do with Olympic video in news and sportscasts. I'll summarize the main points below, as well as attaching the full document from NBC. and that's for a local NBC affiliate. most of the things we aired were big US athletes medaling and hockey highlights.
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No Safe Word posted:I guess it's not that surprising that with all the other poo poo that's been going on in the past year that I somehow completely missed that David Stern died 3 months ago. It's because Kobe died 3 weeks later and that completely pushed Stern right off the bottom page.
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Declan MacManus posted:i mean i've been predicting doom and gloom for a year now but if anything digital media should be a relatively unaffected market as long as there is still some sort of news to report on; the athletic also does yearly subscriptions so while they might not meet their growth goals they probably won't shed many readers either This is apparently killing fangraphs. And although the timing is really bad for a baseball focused site, I can see other sports journalism sites losing a ton of pageviews what with sports being cancelled now.
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Yeah, if you like baseball and you have some disposable income please subscribe to Fangraphs. Their pageviews are down about 66% year over year due to the pandemic delaying opening day. They're a really vital website with a ton of great stuff and they try to do right by their writers. From their site: David Appelman posted:This is not how I planned to begin FanGraphs’ 15th year. Link to their subscription form.
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like when nbc traded for al michaels one thing espn was supposed to get was more time for olympic highlights guess it's not much of a difference let's see what's going on with the herb https://twitter.com/gmgunion/status/1246181977864015872
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So Jon and Kofie are doing another cool rear end thing but this time with OOTPquote:We’re going to take an old Mariners team and try to reverse their fortunes in Out Of The Park Baseball 21. OOTP is a very text-based oriented simulator which allows us to input what our team should do. Instead of telling a pitcher to throw a slider, or aiming and selecting the pitch power, we’ll be suggesting whether to pitch to contact, pitch around, etc. https://www.sbnation.com/2020/4/3/21203609/fumble-dimension-out-of-the-park-baseball
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Troy Queef posted:i remember producing sportscasts during the 2010 Olympics (Mizzou runs the Mid-Missouri NBC affiliate as a training ground for its J-school) and remember getting this email from our station director: What does the IOC get out of this poo poo? It can't be money?
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Ootp is like space station 13 in that it seems like your can have a lot of fun but you have to commit countless hours to reading before fun happens
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:What does the IOC get out of this poo poo? It can't be money? It's exclusivity to the extreme, basically. IOC locks down their video rights to a crazy degree and pretty much only wants you seeing any of their events or videos on either their own platform or the US's national TV partner.
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Spaced God posted:Ootp is like space station 13 in that it seems like your can have a lot of fun but you have to commit countless hours to reading before fun happens i get that spreadsheet sport sims wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea but you really don't. unless you just like don't know anything about baseball and then yeah you'd probably have to read a lot about how baseball works
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DJExile posted:It's exclusivity to the extreme, basically. IOC locks down their video rights to a crazy degree and pretty much only wants you seeing any of their events or videos on either their own platform or the US's national TV partner. The dumber thing is how strictly NBC tries to lock major events down and only present them in prime time. Which is going to be tough when everything finishes before 10 pm local time in Tokyo, and the East Coast is a 13 hour time difference to Japan...they’re going to be trying to sit on results that come in very early in the morning all the way to prime time.
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I'm not a Shea Serrano superfan but one thing I'm enjoying is when he tweets something like "gently caress TRUMP and if you support him don't buy my book and don't follow me" and then someone just tags Bill Simmons and is like "You see this?" It is interesting seeing what all these sports and pop culture sites are having to do to hit their content quota right now. The front page of ESPN is a loving dark scary place.
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soggybagel posted:I'm not a Shea Serrano superfan but one thing I'm enjoying is when he tweets something like "gently caress TRUMP and if you support him don't buy my book and don't follow me" and then someone just tags Bill Simmons and is like "You see this?" There was one last week where someone tagged the Ringer and sarcastically said "keep hiring this guy," which raises a lot of questions.
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harperdc posted:The dumber thing is how strictly NBC tries to lock major events down and only present them in prime time. i know offhand that they scheduled the swimming finals for the morning tokyo time they have enough clout to schedule some big stuff for american prime time if it's possible
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Things are going great at SI https://twitter.com/grantwahl/status/1247010420294127617?s=21
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Where do we host images these days? Either way apparently if anyone gets laid off after July 1, no severance; his bosses want to make his pay cut permanent, and said that they were using the pandemic as an excuse to cut salaries. So, things going well at SI!
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Vertical Lime posted:i know offhand that they scheduled the swimming finals for the morning tokyo time I guess I didn’t pay close enough attention when trying to get tickets (partially because I thought finals would be more competitive). Swimming finals are almost all 10:30-12:00 local time, and the basketball gold medal game is actually the first game scheduled for the final day (before the women’s finals and both bronze medal games), from 11:30 to 1:30 pm local. [Ask] me about how overrun the Tokyo 2020 ticketing process has been 
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