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justcola posted:I feel like a poo poo zizek watching avengers films and relating them to socio-economic concepts then just skipping all the battle scenes, wondering what I'm doing with my life.
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Communist Thoughts posted:nah the antibodies are your secondary immune response that takes a while to get up and running. Yeah but my understanding was as it starts to produce them they're almost instantly used up by binding to any viruses they find, meaning finding a significant amount of antibodies just loose means there's very little virus left, and that was the great hope of these mooted antibody tests to say "Yeah you're fine, get back to work", as opposed to antigen tests that detect if the virus itself is present. However it's been pointed out by a couple of people that that's not actually the case and if it is true that the virus is still present and spreadable beyond 14 days *and* with a positive antibody test then that has potentially massive implications, especially for medical staff being rushed back onto wards.
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whats fun is we've known for 2 months now that the max time viral shed can last is 40 days, the avg is 20 days. so if you wanna be totally safe its gotta be 40 day quarantine (nicely thats exactly what quarantine means, black death era venice were unironically a considerably better run state than modern UK) and if you're not gonna do that then it needs to be at least 20 days just to catch the majority of cases. the whole 7-14 days thing isn't remotely adequate and isn't based on any science. which basically describes the whole UK policy. nothing we have done adequately stops the spread at all, really. still no PPE for medical workers let alone supermarket and transport staff. so they will still be unrelenting vectors of plague. for things to not get worse than italy we literally need some kind of miraculous variable nobody has thought of that will defeat the virus just for us. maybe our stiff upper lips? baked bean intake?
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well it turns out our hopes of it going away in summer aren't happening, so it must not like cold damp places right? so we're immune!
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Communist Thoughts posted:baked bean intake?
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Apr 2, 2020 16:14
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Yeah but my understanding was as it starts to produce them they're almost instantly used up by binding to any viruses they find, meaning finding a significant amount of antibodies just loose means there's very little virus left, and that was the great hope of these mooted antibody tests to say "Yeah you're fine, get back to work", as opposed to antigen tests that detect if the virus itself is present. googling a study, this may be wrong coz its a hypothesis pulled from my rear end only 1% of blood samples tested positive for covid in positive patients, so its rare it gets into your blood, it lives in your lungs. i think the antibody test is a blood test right? there will be antibodies in your blood cause thats how its transported, but they wont have covid to bind to. but also you will have free antibodies in your blood regardless, whereas you have zero in your blood before the immune response, so its testing whether you've got to the immune response stage not that you're defeating the virus yet. pretty sure you can be making antibodies and still be overwhelmed
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OwlFancier posted:Feco-oral is the US substitute for kia-ora.
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Communist Thoughts posted:the whole 7-14 days thing isn't remotely adequate and isn't based on any science. which basically describes the whole UK policy. nothing we have done adequately stops the spread at all, really. still no PPE for medical workers let alone supermarket and transport staff. so they will still be unrelenting vectors of plague. But we are clapping for them with more planned for 8pm tonight. That'll solve all problems, other than the lack of resources like beds, PPE and staff.
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Jose posted:yeah i'm jealous of the people i play wow with who decided in their 30s to go back to uni and its all just been paid for not needing to worry about it Life is chronically unfair. Josef bugman posted:It's weird, I am feeling a little better following the first few weeks of quarantine. I have read about 10 of the Bernard Cromwell Sharpe books in the last 3 weeks. Also gone back to the Complete Marvel Reading Order & reading so many comic books. Missing my wrestling though. There's been 9 shows this month I've watched, which...well, significantly down on what it should be to the point where I even watched 2 Stardom shows & some Big Japan which aren't in my regular rotation. Been no New Japan Cup, missed a few Dragon Gate shows, several AJPW & NOAH. And now this month All Japan have cancelled their big tournament. It's nice having time & all but I'm pretty much just done with this now, give me my Japanese wrestling back.
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The host immune response in respiratory virus infection: balancing virus clearance and immunopathology https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4896975/
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Communist Thoughts posted:for things to not get worse than italy we literally need some kind of miraculous variable nobody has thought of that will defeat the virus just for us. maybe our stiff upper lips? baked bean intake? We're going to get rid of Trident and coronavirus at the same time
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lol https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1245733718322487301?s=20
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I'm 99% sure that certain people itt are furiously masturbating as they breathlessly insist that COVID will go on until 2023 and kill ten million people in the UK alone
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Apr 2, 2020 16:27
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ThomasPaine posted:I'm 99% sure that certain people itt are furiously masturbating as they breathlessly insist that COVID will go on until 2023 and kill ten million people in the UK alone Given that the pessimists have been right every time with this thing so far maybe it's time to listen to them
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ThomasPaine posted:I'm 99% sure that certain people itt are furiously masturbating as they breathlessly insist that COVID will go on until 2023 and kill ten million people in the UK alone neat
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Barry Foster posted:Given that the pessimists have been right every time with this thing so far maybe it's time to listen to them Perhaps, but I like my takes slightly less visibly cum-stained if I'm honest
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Communist Thoughts posted:lol yeah we have known this since january The point the thread called it was when there were multiple reports of asymptomatic transmission. Aka "oh good, this thing will get through airports in no time at all huh".
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One thing I am learning is that if there was a deadly plague that killed like 90% of people it'd be a far more egalitarian solution to climate change than we're likely to get because rich people can not loving stop getting diseases.
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Apr 2, 2020 16:32
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Completely unrelated to anything, I have just figured out that Alex Jones and Arron Banks are in fact two separate people, and not the same person. I am feeling confused.
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Apr 2, 2020 16:40
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Bobstar posted:Completely unrelated to anything, I have just figured out that Alex Jones and Arron Banks are in fact two separate people, and not the same person. .... Did... did you think the gay demon frogs man was lobbying to leave the EU..? Like are you basing your mental image for both of them off of actual alex jones?
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Guavanaut posted:10mg/lb This mixing of measurements is violence.
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OwlFancier posted:.... Tanith posted:This mixing of measurements is violence.
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I would probably like tim farron more if he took his shirt off and screamed at people.
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OwlFancier posted:Feco-oral is the US substitute for kia-ora. That's way too orangey for crows.
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ThomasPaine posted:Perhaps, but I like my takes slightly less visibly cum-stained if I'm honest How's Francis Weetman during the pandemic by the way? 
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Well isn't this loving gross. This is how it's going to be reported from now on, isn't it? https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1245734573000077312
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OwlFancier posted:.... Honestly I think my mental image of both of them was Lewis Prothero from well known documentary film V for Vendetta. That combined with never watching videos and only reading headlines in passing and going "ah, the bad dude who starts with A is at it again"
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Answers Me posted:Well isn't this loving gross. This is how it's going to be reported from now on, isn't it? Not sure how you can interpret a death toll differently, but then we live in a world where every single film needs an 'ending explained' video on youtube. I imagine it only gives a general notion of what the toll is and we won't really know til next year. The demographic changes to the census might be interesting.
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Bobstar posted:Honestly I think my mental image of both of them was Lewis Prothero from well known documentary film V for Vendetta. I think everyone needs to at least watch this one alex jones video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUIcCyPOA30
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Most coronavirus victims would have died of something eventually, reports BBC. Maybe they should do that after terror attacks.
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LOL nice one, Beeb. Add another gammon bullshit talking point to my previously published checklist: "ahhh, but you don't know that all those people definitely died of covids  "
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Guavanaut posted:Most coronavirus victims would have died of something eventually, reports BBC. https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1245735155978952704 I've said it before and I'll say it again: abolish the BBC
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Wachter posted:LOL nice one, Beeb. Add another gammon bullshit talking point to my previously published checklist: "ahhh, but you don't know that all those people definitely died of covids It's all very "technically it's not the falling out the building, it's the hitting the floor "
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dispatch_async posted:https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1245735155978952704 fucken unreal
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Applying for UC, and what a loving shitshow that is. All my verification is going through online on some app, 3 days to process - OK, I get that it's busy. My girlfriend who also has to apply, despite not needing to as she's still employed: Can't verify you through your passport/debit card, ring this number and book an appointment to go to a job centre. That isn't open and the lines are perma-jammed. Anyone any advice on alternate methods? Also learned today the main reason there's very little remote freelance work for my trade is everyone's scared to death of NDAs, like we're all going to use this as an excuse to do some real industrial espionage. There's also an office still operating, because let's not let a pandemic get in the way of money. My trade is in no way key, they should all be remote working like every other place is.
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Yeah, this pissed me right off. He was 52. He did not die with coronavirus, you loving spineless worms. https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1245714274552602627 justcola posted:How's Francis Weetman during the pandemic by the way? Very boring honestly
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It's got echoes of the AIDS epidemic in South Africa when there was a huge stigma around it you'd get lots of people dying of pneumonia but almost a deliberate refusal to talk about the underlying virus that led to that. Except it's the state broadcaster doing it.
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