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So after months of hearing that masks were ineffective at preventing people from contracting COVID (but could help minimize the spread by containing droplets) now all of the talking heads are starting to say that we need to wear masks at all times. How is anyone supposed to interpret this as anything but desperation and grasping at straws at this point?
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pantslesswithwolves posted:So after months of hearing that masks were ineffective at preventing people from contracting COVID (but could help minimize the spread by containing droplets) now all of the talking heads are starting to say that we need to wear masks at all times. How is anyone supposed to interpret this as anything but desperation and grasping at straws at this point? We've always been at war with Eastasia
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Apr 2, 2020 21:46
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This is wonderful news for the bank robbing market.
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Joe Exotic is in isolation with coronavirus
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Current Event This B.C. area DJ Neon Steve posted this entertaining, perfect for a stoned productive morning of quarantine. I've loved his live shows and this mashup of songs that are now relevant spans a large handful of genres and has kept me smiling today. https://www.mixcloud.com/NeonSteve/neon-steve-the-pandemix/ Lyrics may require some headphones, is anyone still working to call this NSFW? This scratches my what's going on in the world itch without actually being a substantial negative drain on my day. I'm entertaining a long weekend of no news just to recharge. Hope everyone else takes this time to refocus on their mental health and take a break now and then as there will always be more and it will invariably be worse.
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pantslesswithwolves posted:How is anyone supposed to interpret this as anything but desperation and grasping at straws at this point? This may be, oddly, the science working. It's pretty clear that there's a loving ton that we don't know about COVID-19, primarily because of the asymptomatic carrier issue. We also don't know why some people with COVID-19 feel nothing, others get a cold, others get the fever/shakes/chest stuff, others need hospitalization/oxygen, and others need the full-blown ventilator. I'm only now seeing conjectures as it having to do with the initial viral load in the initial exposure event. Now that a sizable chunk of research has been done on asymptomatic carriers, and they turn out to be more cases than expected, the guidelines changed. That's good! But, it's not exactly helpful that drat near everyone in the administration was all "ENJOY YOUR JOBS AND THE GOOD ECONOMY, THIS IS NBD" until it suddenly wasn't. Nor is it helpful that decisions are being made in respect to our culture, instead of just a person, at a podium, saying what the straight science is. The truth might be that nobody has a firm grasp on the straight science yet.
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So, there's been a rash of fake cops pulling people over lately in Colorado. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fake-cops-are-doing-coronavirus-traffic-stops-colorado-police-say-n1174811 quote:Fort Collins and Greeley are among five different areas in Colorado where police impersonators have been reported in the past week, according to KUSA. It is not immediately clear if any of the same people are involved in the different incidents, which are all under investigation in the various cities. Just going to leave that. Right there. Because anything more out of me will be conspiracy drivel.
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Apr 2, 2020 22:35
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Imagine if this happened 5 years ago.
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You want to know what's really tragic? Analysts have predicted ~30% unemployment. That's roughly 50m people. Projections from the WH are 250k dead. If we end up with those numbers or better, the market is going to go up because those numbers are currently priced in. Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Apr 2, 2020 |
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facialimpediment posted:This may be, oddly, the science working. It's pretty clear that there's a loving ton that we don't know about COVID-19, primarily because of the asymptomatic carrier issue. We also don't know why some people with COVID-19 feel nothing, others get a cold, others get the fever/shakes/chest stuff, others need hospitalization/oxygen, and others need the full-blown ventilator. I'm only now seeing conjectures as it having to do with the initial viral load in the initial exposure event. I get what you’re saying, but current WHO guidance still says that a mask is unnecessary unless you’re sick or taking care of someone who is sick. I’m having a hard time reconciling what’s good advice being put out by the US government vs. “WE’RE DOING SOMETHING!” pseudoscience. Given how compromised every other agency is, I have no reason to believe that CDC isn’t just placating Trump because he saw something on Fox News about how more Americans are wearing masks.
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Some levity in these trying times. https://twitter.com/zhaldeman/status/1245804539493695488?s=20 Would 100% watch that 30 Rock episode.
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pantslesswithwolves posted:So after months of hearing that masks were ineffective at preventing people from contracting COVID (but could help minimize the spread by containing droplets) now all of the talking heads are starting to say that we need to wear masks at all times. How is anyone supposed to interpret this as anything but desperation and grasping at straws at this point? Emergence of evidence that initial viral load dose matters at the outset of any given individual infection. While an improvised mask won't prevent infection, blocking 30 - 80% of the virus particles in the cough that gets you, does buy your immune system more time and correlates to better outcomes. The evidence is that hospital workers who are swimming in the poo poo have dramatically higher mortality vs. the general population 
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Brute Squad posted:Some levity in these trying times. That's pretty good Frasier, too
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Brute Squad posted:Some levity in these trying times. That Parks and Rec one is anti-comedy.
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Its funny how the pentagon/combatant commander brass hated Obama for mirco managing them after a near decade of cowboying it up under W. Yet trump has completely destroyed the Navy's autonomy, especially in regards to morale and maintaining good order and discipline. Wonder why they havent turned on him yet?
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Knives Amilli posted:Its funny how the pentagon/combatant commander brass hated Obama for mirco managing them after a near decade of cowboying it up under W. The top brass is now full of Reeks
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Knives Amilli posted:Its funny how the pentagon/combatant commander brass hated Obama for mirco managing them after a near decade of cowboying it up under W.
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Apr 2, 2020 23:36
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its too bad the twitter account that made up modern seinfield episodes doesn't post anymore
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gently caress Georgia Love, Florida PS you can gently caress us too (but I wouldn't recommend it)
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Bob Sacamano would absolutely have a stock of second-hand ventilators somehow.
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I want to see the Seinfeld episode. Elaine would definitely get it.
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Re: masks These mask ideas are based not on science, but on principles. A sufficiently rigorous study to determine causality might be a tough sale, and I think I'd want a paper to randomly assign mask usage, not use observational data. You'd also want multiple testing points for all study personnel. Ideally, you'd find a way to test blind, and while no mask vs mask is impossible to do a blind study of, you could do a blind study of functional and sabotaged masks. To do this you have to be willing to: Utilize tests that arent sufficiently high enough I quantity to test all personnel with symptoms of a life threatening illness or healthcare workers. Encourage some participants to wear masks and others not to while doing your best to account for other alterations of behavior. Manufacture placebo masks. We're not getting this data any time soon. In the American medical tradition, treatment without evidence is frowned upon, and for good reason. In this case, people are recommending treatment on a hunch because of the timeframes and the lack of available evidence. That said, Ive heard (but have not consulted the literature) that nobody bothered collecting sufficiently robust data to demonstrate that brushing your teeth actually helps until surprisingly recently, so in reality we accept all sorts of treatment without evidence. Anecdotally, countries utilizing masks have reduced incidence of cases, but even if true how much is because everyone in public is wearing an advertisement that says, "hey douchebag, theres a pandemic going on, stay home"? And even if that is a cause, maybe that's sufficient reason enough? The US fought the idea at first to try and prevent hoarding, but there may have been some value to an ordinance that allowed cops to ticket dumb kids on beaches without masks.
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Getitfromsawyer.com getting blocked by ublock for anyone else?
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Knives Amilli posted:Its funny how the pentagon/combatant commander brass hated Obama for mirco managing them after a near decade of cowboying it up under W. Many may have, but also know that you only get to die on one hill.
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https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2763852 The number of asymptomatic carriers may be much higher than initially thought, and exhaled air might spread a lot farther than the conventionally claimed 3-6 feet, and hang around longer. Wearing those cheap masks isn't about protecting yourself, it's to reduce the likelihood of spreading it around. Our country is going to make them mandatory when shopping, (provided free of charge at each store,) and probably generally in public sometime afterwards.
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piL posted:Re: masks Not true, and why "evidence based medicine" is such a problematic term. You can't destructively test humans, you can't run a trial on whether, for instance, CPR works, vs just doing nothing.
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Casimir Radon posted:He's Jeebus' annointed. Nobody told you? messiah means annointed. so does christ.
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Thank you for you're service https://twitter.com/kairyssdal/status/1245811898873831424?s=19
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Leavemywife posted:Could mosquitos spread the virus? I know we're all supposed to shelter at home, but it's getting around the time those little blood suckers come back. Late to this but: no, mosquitos can't spread the virus. It isn't bloodborn. In other news: be careful w/ your cats https://twitter.com/dalydes/status/1245763561370128391
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I'm honestly worried more about the pets dying than I am at this point.
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Also that picture is amazing
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Old Boot posted:Late to this but: no, mosquitos can't spread the virus. It isn't bloodborn. Keep your cats indoors anyway.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Also that picture is amazing Right?? Stultus Maximus posted:Keep your cats indoors anyway. Yeah, it's a good rule of thumb regardless, but in this case I definitely worry about animal safety. Esp. if someone gets it in their head that they're a vector (they're not).
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Anyone else get their Trumpbux yet?
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pantslesswithwolves posted:Anyone else get their Trumpbux yet? Good price for 5 gallons of lube
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Apr 3, 2020 01:46
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So you're the one still paying for porn. Way to flaunt your gold pornhub status.
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Eej posted:Thank you for you're service Holy poo poo his name was actually Crozier? I thought that was just a reference to The Terror.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Keep your cats 
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