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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I'm doing that folding@home thing and the prof who I think runs it posted this: Everything that happens at a cellular level is loving insanity. I think we need to just abandon all this old code and start from scratch.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Everything that happens at a cellular level is loving insanity. I think we need to just abandon all this old code and start from scratch. As a molecular biologist, it's just a bunch of really tiny K'nex pieces that have had billions of years to evolve and fit into each other in interesting ways
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I was going to suggest it was poo poo because so far it had not figured out how to make a knex dinosaur but I suppose it actually did a while ago.
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Apr 3, 2020 19:57
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Why do tiny things jiggle so?
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Failed Imagineer posted:As a molecular biologist, it's just a bunch of really tiny K'nex pieces that have had billions of years to evolve and fit into each other in interesting ways But then they start moving about and lassoing other molecules and isn't there one that literally sort of walks along proteins dragging stuff about? And of course there's all this folding poo poo going on like self-organising origami. We need to get rid of all of it, and just replace it with humours or a big Python script or something.
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Apr 3, 2020 20:13
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goddamnedtwisto posted:We need to get rid of all of it, and just replace it with humours or a big Python script or something. 
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Apr 3, 2020 20:16
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I do not want my body to be apps. It is the only thing that could be worse than evolution. There are many faults with my body but it does not fail along with millions of others because it failed to sync with the cloud.
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Tarnop posted:and now it's all shown to be the obvious bullshit we knew it was and no one loving cares. Hmm, I dunno about that. People are ignorant enough about how this all works that they bought into the credit card analogy as justification for austerity. The mass public won't understand what this means and when the government whips out Austerity 2.0 to recoup the money from the mass public instead of the millionaires sending twee messages of support to the NHS rather than a loving cheque, they'll swallow it right up. I bet they'll even justify it by saying all this support is being mainly used by the public, thus the public have to pay it back. 20 more years of a tory government ruling over extreme cuts to keep those of lower incomes "where they belong". :/
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OwlFancier posted:I do not want my body to be apps. It is the only thing that could be worse than evolution. There are many faults with my body but it does not fail along with millions of others because it failed to sync with the cloud. I was originally going to say Perl but frankly that's a bit too close to the current system. Also I really should get around to learning Python, because I suspect that and human flesh chef are going to be the only two jobs left in the world by the end of the year and I've worked in a kitchen, it loving sucks.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:You can join vitamin P and gently caress off with that terminology I haven't hosed off anywhere and the Change UK cuck jokes were always funny you joyless weirdo.
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/MetroUK/status/1245752934324936704 Wait...What? So those years and years of hardship, rationing care, sick kids sleeping on the corridor floor, mentally ill people doing laps of casualty because there's no specialist help. All because our own government had the NHS in a 13 billion pound armlock and it's suddenly...just let it go?
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Endjinneer posted:Wait...What? Yep, that's right.
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Endjinneer posted:Wait...What? Well that stuff couldn't potentially effect the income streams of rich people soooo
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Apr 3, 2020 20:49
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time to start the "how long can I stand to be in the same room as HIGNFY" stakes
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YouTube podcast HIGNFY is unsurprisingly awkward and bad.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:But then they start moving about and lassoing other molecules and isn't there one that literally sort of walks along proteins dragging stuff about? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1MnNO4I9aU&t=56s You'll have to provide your own silly tuba music.
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Azza Bamboo posted:Who was that debt payable to? the treasury our government haven’t quite gotten to the point of writing off privately held debt yet give it a couple weeks
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Cerv posted:the treasury Was the NHS paying interest on the debt, or was it just like me borrowing a tenner from my dad, with both of us knowing that I’ll never pay it back.
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Endjinneer posted:Wait...What? It's slightly more complicated than that. The NHS is actually a series of subcontractors - Clinical Commissioning groups and specialist networks like cancers and dental surgery or the military all hold budgets which they then contract out service provision to Trusts and other approved bodies (which is where private services can bid and win contracts). Once within a contract if a service performs operations they can charge the commissioning bodies a certain value for each procedure and if a condition of the contract isn't fulfilled then the commissioners can charge the service provider penalties. This means there's a circulating internal health economy which means there can be a lot of debt banking up over time as it's essentially fictional money until it needs to be paid outside of this relationship to staff or suppliers or shareholders and so it allows an internal market to exist and drive capitalist logic 'efficiencies' within the various sectors but without healthcare providers actually going bust except the private ones which can get hosed. Basically it's bad but not like a real debt. vvv No it wasn't. There's going to be some emergency funding avenues which might be accruing interest but there's not the same sort of issue as there is with PFI. namesake fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Apr 3, 2020 |
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Oodles posted:Was the NHS paying interest on the debt, or was it just like me borrowing a tenner from my dad, with both of us knowing that I’ll never pay it back. Yes, it was, and that debt was higher than the Government borrowed the money for. I don't think quite as high as the 8% markup they put on capex debt to force trusts into PFI deals, but still. Also did Her Maj have anything interesting to say or was it just an Uncle Albert monologue in a higher pitch?
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namesake posted:It's slightly more complicated than that. The NHS is actually a series of subcontractors - Clinical Commissioning groups and specialist networks like cancers and dental surgery or the military all hold budgets which they then contract out service provision to Trusts and other approved bodies (which is where private services can bid and win contracts). Once within a contract if a service performs operations they can charge the commissioning bodies a certain value for each procedure and if a condition of the contract isn't fulfilled then the commissioners can charge the service provider penalties. This means there's a circulating internal health economy which means there can be a lot of debt banking up over time as it's essentially fictional money until it needs to be paid outside of this relationship to staff or suppliers or shareholders and so it allows an internal market to exist and drive capitalist logic 'efficiencies' within the various sectors but without healthcare providers actually going bust except the private ones which can get hosed. Weren't the PFI loans treated more like normal debt though?
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Also did Her Maj have anything interesting to say or was it just an Uncle Albert monologue in a higher pitch? Think it’s this Sunday for Liz to address the great unwashed.
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Vitamin P posted:Weren't the PFI loans treated more like normal debt though? I will be insanely surprised if any PFI contract debt are included in what was cancelled.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Where can you get masks though? I've seen a couple of people in town with really fancy things that look like something from an alien landscape, I googled and cost about £60 each and a few with paper masks but nowhere that sells them. Better than nothing if you know someone who has access to a 3D printer, and possibly the first use of a hobby one as a legit "the real thing would be better but we don't have the real thing and are dying" purpose and not "using my $900 3D printer to print a 99p Wilko door hanger that breaks after a week." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNcEpLx0qjk Azza Bamboo posted:Why do tiny things jiggle so?  OwlFancier posted:I do not want my body to be apps. 
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namesake posted:I will be insanely surprised if any PFI contract debt are included in what was cancelled. No way they excluded them specifically surely.
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Guavanaut posted:A friend of mine in Romania has designed a 3D printable mask to address PPE shortages for frontline workers there, and released the files as a gift to the world. I don't have access to anyone with a 3D printer. A few friends in Egypt seem to have got hold of 3D printed masks!
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Strom Cuzewon posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1MnNO4I9aU&t=56s I like the shaky camera when a protein bumps into another protein.
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Guavanaut posted:A friend of mine in Romania has designed a 3D printable mask to address PPE shortages for frontline workers there, and released the files as a gift to the world. Don't want to be an arsehole or nuffink, but... Whilst that's a good idea in theory, I know from wearing masks like that for woodworking, they always have a one-way outlet valve which allows a relatively free flow of air in the outward direction only. Even with this valve, after wearing one of these masks for an hour or so, the inside will get very damp from sweat and vapour from your breath. Without an outlet valve, I'd give this about 10 minutes before it gets intolerably damp in there - like you will be dripping water out at the chin. Also I note that he's added foam for comfort... but these masks themselves are usually made from pliable (rubbery) material which conforms to your face somewhat, and are still very uncomfortable. I doubt that the addition of some foam to some very rigid plastic is gonna hold up in terms of comfort. There's "better than nothing" and there's "completely unfit for purpose", and I may be wrong because I haven't tried this mask on, but I suspect it's gonna be closer to the latter.
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OwlFancier posted:I do not want my body to be apps. It is the only thing that could be worse than evolution. There are many faults with my body but it does not fail along with millions of others because it failed to sync with the cloud. 3 billion people die because someone removed a package from npm 
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WhatEvil posted:Don't want to be an arsehole or nuffink, but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gpiLUHtvqo And yeah, it probably is going to get sweaty and uncomfortable, in the same way that wearing a bin bag is sweaty and uncomfortable compared to a Tyvek suit. But the US is currently at the 'doctors wearing bin bags' stage, and Romania is... not well prepared.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I like the shaky camera when a protein bumps into another protein. The full documentary, Secret Life of the Cell, is readily available online, and its absolutely great. Has dramatic music for when antibodies fly in like its loving Apocalypse Now.
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Guavanaut posted:That was the first draft model, there's already been a round of improvements, including making it more flexible, but the video about that is in Romanian, so maybe less useful to the thread. OK well fair enough, but you say he's a friend of yours? You should tell him to include an outlet valve. He could probably make one with a single rubber washer or thin rubber flap of the right size/flexibility.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I was originally going to say Perl but frankly that's a bit too close to the current system. Nah embedded C is forever  Edit: like what do you think Python itself is written in? feedmegin fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Apr 3, 2020 |
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