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WhatEvil posted:People saying stuff like "Complaining things aren't fair isn't going to get you anywhere!" or whatever are missing the point. A lot depends on whether Starmer has actually learned any lessons from the Brown/Miliband era. Both of them made endless compromises for the sake of some "good press", which was in reality slightly less bad press. Then when an election rolled around they got absolutely monstered while the Tories got an endless tongue-bath, and they both lost and sacrificed their principles. Hopefully what Starmer took away from 2017 is that the British press is not all-powerful and courting them does not actually win you any favours.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Almost all food vinegar is just that stuff with some brown colouring in it (non-brewed condiment). White vinegar is still cheaper though because it doesn't have to be food-grade. Hell even most brewed condiment is extracted acetic acid + colouring, it's just they get the acetic acid from... I can't remember what they call the stuff strained out in brewing, but that stuff. You can concentrate it and colour it and all that, but the acetic acid must be from a biological source (making it a biological sauce? ) Brand name vinegars are pretty obsessive about that, and also usually the ones sending the lawyers when someone tries to call non-brewed condiment vinegar or dares to put Melton Mowbray on a pork pie that was made in Rutland. But yeah even the cheap vinegar substitute is more energy intensive than acetic acid window cleaner, because you have to get all the methanol out and add a bunch of caramel before you let people consume it, which just makes it a worse window cleaner.
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 18:29 |
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Guavanaut posted:That's a waste of food vinegar. Do they sell cleaning vinegar in the UK? Over here you can buy 5l things of it, cheaper than the food stuff. Great for wrapping taps in.
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 18:31 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I did not see that at all! I dunno what 1 used to grab them, but for future reference this site worked ok!
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 18:32 |
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Bobstar posted:Do they sell cleaning vinegar in the UK? Over here you can buy 5l things of it, cheaper than the food stuff. Great for wrapping taps in.
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 18:35 |
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Is this our new cause?
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 18:37 |
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Stardrops has this "white vinegar" cleaner but it has all these warnings like DO NOT LET THIS TOUCH YOUR SKIN so I'm not really sure vinegar is the magic ingredient in that one
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 18:41 |
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Concentrated acetic acid will burn your skin, and technical grade probably still has methanol in, so it's good advice.
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 18:45 |
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Guavanaut posted:Concentrated acetic acid will burn your skin, and technical grade probably still has methanol in, so it's good advice. well whaddya know https://www.dpi.uk.net/product_info.php?id=224 the bottle just lists "contains among other ingredients: parfum" which really sounds like they're trying to hide what's in it. So it pretty much is just vinegar in a spray bottle, that's cool
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 18:53 |
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Fairly sure this isn't true and this dude has just gone out for bread and milk while still potentially infectious ffs
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 18:54 |
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Answers Me posted:Emily Thornberry currently talking up Starmer because "he's good, he's competent, and he won't over-promise" "He won't over-promise". Ah good. What a relief. Anyway, I'm glad I vented most of my spleen about Starmer winning this morning/afternoon, it was therapeutic. I stand by the general gist of what I said, which is to say that centrist technocracy won't win an election any time because folks have had their fill of such bloodless policy, but no point going over well-trodden ground at least until we see the great unity shadow cabinet confirmed. If there's not many lefties in it I'm going to send some ferocious tweets to that pillock Paul Mason. Watched a fun 2018 World Cup game between Argentina & France, read a dozen or so Marvel comics from the 70s while sat out in the garden (with a jacket on because it's loving nippy), all in all, not the worst Saturday.
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 18:56 |
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Bardeh posted:
It's not, but when you've got the Health Secretary noping out of quarantine after 6 days because he thinks he feels better, no wonder the official 7 days advice doesn't seem to be based on anything anyway, far as I'm aware it can be 14 days before the antibodies kick in and the virus still sticks around for potentially several weeks. but hey if you want to slow roll everyone catching it while minimising economic disruption from having people stay home, that's one way to do it
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 19:01 |
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https://twitter.com/centristhacks/status/1246210460866797568?s=20
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 19:07 |
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Bardeh posted:
I got a Tesco delivery last night and I had a minichat with the driver. He said that while most people were being sensible and taking precautions, he still had quite a few idiots acting like they hadn't heard about any virus. Even with a hosed back I put a dust sheet down on the driveway for the stuff and kept my distance from him. Also I was reminded of the goon whose mum got shouted at by her neighbour for getting a food delivery. I clocked the curtain twitching bastard across from he at her upstairs window the entire time I was shambling back and forth to bring stuff inside. Society feels incredibly claustrophobic atm. Getting groceries is now a huge event
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 19:10 |
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How long do we reckon before Did Not Vote gets an outright majority at Parliamentary elections?
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lol if this is true: https://twitter.com/RoshanaMN/status/1246318563129991168?s=20
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 19:15 |
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I knew something was fishy about the writeoff. Just made absolutely no sense.
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 19:17 |
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The entire concept of publicly funded bodies being able to be in debt is just enraging. Sure, they can be over budget or underfunded, but charging them interest is insane.
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 19:22 |
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Bardeh posted:
This is correct in that if you no longer have a fever on day 8 (day 1 is your first symptomatic day) you are “ safe to return to work” from a key worker perspective , cough itself isn’t a sign of infectivity and can last for many days
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 19:22 |
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Spicy thread today crispix posted:I got a Tesco delivery last night and I had a minichat with the driver. He said that while most people were being sensible and taking precautions, he still had quite a few idiots acting like they hadn't heard about any virus. Even with a hosed back I put a dust sheet down on the driveway for the stuff and kept my distance from him. tbf that's just any auld doll in Norn Iron, my Granny would always be nosing out of the window to see what the neighbours were up to
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 19:40 |
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how torturous is the Universal Credit signup system right now? I've never applied for it before because the idea of having to explain in ridiculous detail how depressed I am sounds like a really bad idea for my continuing survival (and I don't quote need unquote the money), but if right now they're automatically (or near enough) approving everyone then it seems a bit silly not to sign up even if it's only for a couple of months
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 19:40 |
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Ms Adequate posted:tbf that's just any auld doll in Norn Iron, my Granny would always be nosing out of the window to see what the neighbours were up to Much truth in this!
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 19:46 |
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Ms Adequate posted:Spicy thread today She's 40 odd, she's just one of those insufferably nosy bastards I've really never understood why some people are compelled to try to find out things about other people. If you put any celebrity's name into google the first result is usually "$name net worth". Like what's the fascination, idgi crispix fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Apr 4, 2020 |
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crispix posted:She's 40 odd, she's just one of those insufferably nosy bastards Oh in that case it's unacceptable, gotta be a pensioner before you're allowed to do that!
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Julio Cruz posted:how torturous is the Universal Credit signup system right now? I've never applied for it before because the idea of having to explain in ridiculous detail how depressed I am sounds like a really bad idea for my continuing survival (and I don't quote need unquote the money), but if right now they're automatically (or near enough) approving everyone then it seems a bit silly not to sign up even if it's only for a couple of months From what I've been told the main hurdle will be the ID check, if you can stand to wait for the call to confirm it all the rest should be (relatively) simple. You shouldn't have anyone breathing down your neck at an assessment anytime soon at least.
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 19:56 |
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A good point: https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1246498143384023043 Union elections seem like the epitome of downticket party committees though - the last leadership election had a turnout of <15%
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 19:58 |
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https://twitter.com/DMiliband/status/1246437652200554497?s=20 Bleurgh.
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 19:59 |
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I've decided now is as good a time as any to finish hypernormalisation Edit lol just got the clip of Blair saying we know Saddam has chemical and biological weapons and if we do nothing future generations will consider is deeply irresponsible Jose fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Apr 4, 2020 |
# ? Apr 4, 2020 20:01 |
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I'm disappointed but saw it coming several miles off when the rlb campaign came late and failed to do owt. Scant comfort, but I will take what I can get. The media/vested interests will see any leader of the labour party with even vaguely socialist goals castigated and smeared at any cost- either the policies will go so lukewarm and limp so as to be useless/not horrify the billionaires and/or starmer will face whatever dirt the tabloids have on him/wish to manufacture at will. You know what doesn't disappoint? Things that are alive and aren't human. Top stuff, every time, even when it's trying to murder you.
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 20:03 |
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Oh yeah, one of the questions at the press conference this afternoon was about transplanting plasma (containing anti-coronavirus antibodies) from recovered Covid patients into infected ones to speed up the immune response/recovery, which definitely sounds like one of those far too simple to work ideas, but is apparently a thing tried with apparent success on a small scale in China and is being trialled elsewhere around the world. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2763982 discusses the possible uses of this as a stopgap. TBH I'm more than a bit worried about the implications, particularly of pressuring recovering patients into giving donations and the possibilities for transmission of all sorts of nasties if this is rushed out (presuming they'd bypass a lot of the protections on current blood/plasma donation), but it's certainly interesting.
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 20:05 |
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So these people who believe 5g towers are spreading the virus, exactly what mechanism do they believe is at work?
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 20:08 |
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DesperateDan posted:
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crispix posted:So these people who believe 5g towers are spreading the virus, exactly what mechanism do they believe is at work? I think the prevailing suggestion is that it's not a virus, it's the 5g NWO population control rays and the globalist lizard demons are covering it up by saying it's a virus.
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crispix posted:So these people who believe 5g towers are spreading the virus, exactly what mechanism do they believe is at work? Tower's got cooties.
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 20:11 |
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I'd forgotten all of this heinously hosed up poo poo Blair did to start the Iraq war and keep it going
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 20:12 |
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Essentially a common theme in conspiracy theories is that the government is trying to do the most evil things possible just for the sake of it, which is true, of course, but specifically they imagine that the government is a james bond baddie rather than just boring killing people by numbers out in the open.
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 20:12 |
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Remember Tim Farrons and the gay frogs? That seems like an awful long time ago
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 20:18 |
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crispix posted:So these people who believe 5g towers are spreading the virus, exactly what mechanism do they believe is at work? I've not really been keeping up on this but I've seen three main themes: - The EHF waves themselves are (unintentionally) the problem, by either damaging the lungs or (brace yourself physicists) changing the oxygen in the air so it can't be absorbed by the lungs - Semi-related - that Covid is in fact an extreme form of electrosensitivity caused by chakras/orgones/"frequencies"/whatever woo bullshit being disrupted by these frequencies, and this is either an accidental side-effect or is in fact a deliberate attempt to kill all the Indigo Children. - The general folding-in of it into other conspiracy theories - either these are new, improved mind-control rays convincing people they're ill, or are activating all the heavy metals from the vaccines and the chemtrails, or that the disease is peoples bodies rejecting the nanomachine/neural implants the CIA puts in everyone, or that the disease is real but the vaccine will contain the nanomachines that will be controlled by 5G (this one at least lets them handwave away the fact that the infection/death rate is exactly the same between cities with and without 5G towers). e: For extra fun the antenna that burned in Birmingham (it's still a little unclear if it was deliberate arson or not) wasn't 5G capable, neither was the one being worked on in that video of the person shouting at two poor telco blokes about "essential work". goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Apr 4, 2020 |
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Hahaha, never mind thousands of Iraqis that died because I had no conscience, not ashamed one loving bit. Corbyn though.
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 20:27 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:e: For extra fun the antenna that burned in Birmingham (it's still a little unclear if it was deliberate arson or not) wasn't 5G capable, neither was the one being worked on in that video of the person shouting at two poor telco blokes about "essential work". Yeah well they would be saying that now, wouldn't they?
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