Star Citizen: $48,000 is only $334/month for 12 years

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Quavers: Feb 26, 2016; You clearly don't understand game development

TheAgent posted:

just got sent this pastebin a minute ago. not going to post it here because it contains reddit user names / SC account names. will post some interesting poo poo though...look at that inventory these sellers have on hand and where they are located

I'm still going through and checking out things, but so far its accurate

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1stTradeDt	RecentTrDt	Type	TrdTot  Location    InvTotal 	CakeDay	        RSIAcctDt       1stTimeTrader
10/8/2016	4/2/2020	SELLER	1137	Norway	    $193,400 	10/6/2016	9/6/2016	N
11/6/2017	4/2/2020	SELLER	4180	Russia	    $138,000 	10/13/2017	5/31/2017	N
3/16/2017	4/3/2020	SELLER	2455	Russia	    $119,500 	12/10/2014	12/19/2015	N
2/28/2018	4/4/2020	SELLER	2624	Russia	    $114,000 	5/18/2017	4/9/2016	N
6/18/2015	4/4/2020	SELLER	1885	Russia	    $109,600 	2/5/2015	2/12/2018	N
1/20/2017	4/4/2020	SELLER	2085	Finland	    $77,500 	8/10/2015	5/31/2015	N
1/29/2020	4/4/2020	SELLER	93	Russia	    $72,900 	2/27/2019	4/13/2018	N
1/8/2015	4/4/2020	SELLER	1170	Canada	    $50,700 	1/8/2015	1/8/2015	N
10/29/2018	4/2/2020	SELLER	274	Russia	    $43,600 	10/24/2018	10/18/2020	N
12/3/2019	4/4/2020	SELLER	72	Unknown	    $39,800 	12/4/2019	7/28/2018	N
4/22/2015	4/4/2020	SELLER	525	Russia	    $22,200 	4/22/2015	7/24/2013	N
11/2/2016	4/4/2020	SELLER	393	Canada	    $5,200 	2/15/2016	1/1/1900	N
3/18/2020	4/4/2020	SELLER	57	Unknown	    $710 	9/3/2019	8/22/2019	N
4/2/2020	4/2/2020	BUYER	1	Unknown	    $-   	3/23/2020	1/1/1900	Y
9/14/2019	4/2/2020	BUYER	3	Unknown	    $-   	2/17/2013	1/1/1900	N
4/2/2020	4/2/2020	BUYER	1	Unknown	    $-   	9/27/2016	1/1/1900	Y
3/29/2020	4/2/2020	BUYER	4	Unknown	    $-   	3/28/2020	1/1/1900	Y
4/2/2020	4/2/2020	BUYER	1	Unknown	    $-   	1/12/2019	1/1/1900	Y
3/24/2020	4/2/2020	BUYER	4	Unknown	    $-   	2/21/2019	1/1/1900	N
2/22/2020	4/2/2020	BUYER	0	Unknown	    $-   	6/15/2019	1/1/1900	N
4/3/2020	4/3/2020	BUYER	1	Europe	    $-   	9/9/2019	9/9/2017	Y
5/21/2019	4/4/2020	BUYER	0	SouthA	    $-   	5/14/2019	1/1/1900	N
1/14/2020	4/3/2020	BUYER	5	Europe	    $-   	12/27/2017	12/16/2019	N
4/3/2020	4/3/2020	BUYER	0	NorthA	    $-   	3/14/2018	1/1/1900	Y
4/3/2020	4/4/2020	BUYER	0	Unknown	    $-   	1/6/2020	1/1/1900	Y
3/30/2020	4/3/2020	BUYER	3	Unknown	    $-   	3/30/2020	3/24/2020	Y
9/8/2019	4/1/2020	BUYER	0	Unknown	    $-   	9/5/2019	1/1/1900	N
12/6/2017	4/1/2020	BUYER	75	China	    $-   	12/6/2017	12/3/2013	N
3/30/2019	4/2/2020	BUYER	8	US	    $-   	10/2/2017	2/3/2020	N
7/14/2019	4/1/2020	BUYER	0	Unknown	    $-   	5/8/2019	1/1/1900	N
4/4/2020	4/4/2020	BUYER	1	Europe	    $-   	2/15/2018	1/1/1900	Y
1/9/2019	4/1/2020	BUYER	4	Europe	    $-   	1/9/2019	12/17/2018	N
11/12/2019	4/1/2020	BUYER	8	Unknown	    $-   	11/11/2019	10/25/2019	N
4/4/2020	4/4/2020	BUYER	1	Unknown	    $-   	4/2/2020	1/1/1900	Y
10/1/2019	4/1/2020	BUYER	27	Germany	    $-   	2/28/2019	9/13/2019	N
3/25/2020	4/2/2020	BUYER	5	US	    $-   	3/18/2020	11/28/2019	Y
8/27/2019	4/2/2020	BUYER	0	Unknown	    $-   	8/27/2019	1/1/1900	N
4/4/2020	4/4/2020	BUYER	1	France	    $-   	3/22/2020	1/13/2019	Y
3/31/2020	3/31/2020	BUYER	1	Germany	    $-   	6/8/2014	10/17/2020	Y
11/10/2019	4/4/2020	BUYER	27	US	    $-   	10/22/2019	10/10/2019	N
4/1/2020	4/1/2020	BUYER	1	US	    $-   	3/2/2019	10/12/2013	Y
12/5/2019	4/1/2020	BUYER	2	NZ	    $-   	3/8/2016	1/21/2015	N
4/4/2020	4/4/2020	BUYER	0	Unknown	    $-   	10/3/2018	1/1/1900	Y
4/4/2020	4/4/2020	BUYER	1	US	    $-   	10/19/2016	1/11/2016	Y
4/3/2020	4/4/2020	BUYER	2	US	    $-   	6/23/2015	3/20/2015	Y
7/14/2019	4/1/2020	BUYER	0	Unknown	    $-   	5/8/2019	1/1/1900	N
4/1/2020	4/1/2020	BUYER	0	Unknown	    $-   	10/8/2019	1/1/1900	Y
3/26/2020	4/1/2020	BUYER	0	Unknown	    $-   	11/2/2018	1/1/1900	Y
12/19/2020	4/1/2020	BUYER	0	Unknown	    $-   	12/19/2019	1/1/1900	N
3/24/2020	4/1/2020	BUYER	4	UK	    $-   	10/27/2019	10/6/2019	Y

TrdTot = Confirmed Number of Trades on r/starcitizen_trades. not sure why there are 0's here
InvTotal = Total amount of ships/stuff for sale by the seller

I added the 1/1/1900s are in there for the RSI account creation dates because they wouldn't line up pretty without them (the pastebin doesn't link every RSI account to a seller/buyer and has that null)

btw already confirmed that the top dollar amounts for the seller accounts are accurate

loving lol

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https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GrimyBouncyCaiman-mobile.mp4

Quavers fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Apr 5, 2020

# ? Apr 5, 2020 01:23

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 07:20

TheAgent: Feb 16, 2002; The call is coming from inside Dr. House; Grimey Drawer

by the way the pastebin also lists total number of reddit posts by account (max at 50, it looks like) and the total number of r/starcitizen posts

tons of accounts post on r/starcitizen_trades but maybe have 1 or 2 posts anywhere else

my favorite is accounts that seem to have been inactive for like a year and have never even mentioned star citizen suddenly buying a few ships this week lol

# ? Apr 5, 2020 01:33

colonelwest: Jun 30, 2018

TheAgent posted:

code:

1stTradeDt	RecentTrDt	Type	TrdTot  Location    InvTotal 	CakeDay	        RSIAcctDt       1stTimeTrader
10/8/2016	4/2/2020	SELLER	1137	Norway	    $193,400 	10/6/2016	9/6/2016	N
11/6/2017	4/2/2020	SELLER	4180	Russia	    $138,000 	10/13/2017	5/31/2017	N
3/16/2017	4/3/2020	SELLER	2455	Russia	    $119,500 	12/10/2014	12/19/2015	N
2/28/2018	4/4/2020	SELLER	2624	Russia	    $114,000 	5/18/2017	4/9/2016	N
6/18/2015	4/4/2020	SELLER	1885	Russia	    $109,600 	2/5/2015	2/12/2018	N
1/20/2017	4/4/2020	SELLER	2085	Finland	    $77,500 	8/10/2015	5/31/2015	N
1/29/2020	4/4/2020	SELLER	93	Russia	    $72,900 	2/27/2019	4/13/2018	N
1/8/2015	4/4/2020	SELLER	1170	Canada	    $50,700 	1/8/2015	1/8/2015	N
10/29/2018	4/2/2020	SELLER	274	Russia	    $43,600 	10/24/2018	10/18/2020	N
12/3/2019	4/4/2020	SELLER	72	Unknown	    $39,800 	12/4/2019	7/28/2018	N
4/22/2015	4/4/2020	SELLER	525	Russia	    $22,200 	4/22/2015	7/24/2013	N
11/2/2016	4/4/2020	SELLER	393	Canada	    $5,200 	2/15/2016	1/1/1900	N
3/18/2020	4/4/2020	SELLER	57	Unknown	    $710 	9/3/2019	8/22/2019	N
4/2/2020	4/2/2020	BUYER	1	Unknown	    $-   	3/23/2020	1/1/1900	Y
9/14/2019	4/2/2020	BUYER	3	Unknown	    $-   	2/17/2013	1/1/1900	N
4/2/2020	4/2/2020	BUYER	1	Unknown	    $-   	9/27/2016	1/1/1900	Y
3/29/2020	4/2/2020	BUYER	4	Unknown	    $-   	3/28/2020	1/1/1900	Y
4/2/2020	4/2/2020	BUYER	1	Unknown	    $-   	1/12/2019	1/1/1900	Y
3/24/2020	4/2/2020	BUYER	4	Unknown	    $-   	2/21/2019	1/1/1900	N
2/22/2020	4/2/2020	BUYER	0	Unknown	    $-   	6/15/2019	1/1/1900	N
4/3/2020	4/3/2020	BUYER	1	Europe	    $-   	9/9/2019	9/9/2017	Y
5/21/2019	4/4/2020	BUYER	0	SouthA	    $-   	5/14/2019	1/1/1900	N
1/14/2020	4/3/2020	BUYER	5	Europe	    $-   	12/27/2017	12/16/2019	N
4/3/2020	4/3/2020	BUYER	0	NorthA	    $-   	3/14/2018	1/1/1900	Y
4/3/2020	4/4/2020	BUYER	0	Unknown	    $-   	1/6/2020	1/1/1900	Y
3/30/2020	4/3/2020	BUYER	3	Unknown	    $-   	3/30/2020	3/24/2020	Y
9/8/2019	4/1/2020	BUYER	0	Unknown	    $-   	9/5/2019	1/1/1900	N
12/6/2017	4/1/2020	BUYER	75	China	    $-   	12/6/2017	12/3/2013	N
3/30/2019	4/2/2020	BUYER	8	US	    $-   	10/2/2017	2/3/2020	N
7/14/2019	4/1/2020	BUYER	0	Unknown	    $-   	5/8/2019	1/1/1900	N
4/4/2020	4/4/2020	BUYER	1	Europe	    $-   	2/15/2018	1/1/1900	Y
1/9/2019	4/1/2020	BUYER	4	Europe	    $-   	1/9/2019	12/17/2018	N
11/12/2019	4/1/2020	BUYER	8	Unknown	    $-   	11/11/2019	10/25/2019	N
4/4/2020	4/4/2020	BUYER	1	Unknown	    $-   	4/2/2020	1/1/1900	Y
10/1/2019	4/1/2020	BUYER	27	Germany	    $-   	2/28/2019	9/13/2019	N
3/25/2020	4/2/2020	BUYER	5	US	    $-   	3/18/2020	11/28/2019	Y
8/27/2019	4/2/2020	BUYER	0	Unknown	    $-   	8/27/2019	1/1/1900	N
4/4/2020	4/4/2020	BUYER	1	France	    $-   	3/22/2020	1/13/2019	Y
3/31/2020	3/31/2020	BUYER	1	Germany	    $-   	6/8/2014	10/17/2020	Y
11/10/2019	4/4/2020	BUYER	27	US	    $-   	10/22/2019	10/10/2019	N
4/1/2020	4/1/2020	BUYER	1	US	    $-   	3/2/2019	10/12/2013	Y
12/5/2019	4/1/2020	BUYER	2	NZ	    $-   	3/8/2016	1/21/2015	N
4/4/2020	4/4/2020	BUYER	0	Unknown	    $-   	10/3/2018	1/1/1900	Y
4/4/2020	4/4/2020	BUYER	1	US	    $-   	10/19/2016	1/11/2016	Y
4/3/2020	4/4/2020	BUYER	2	US	    $-   	6/23/2015	3/20/2015	Y
7/14/2019	4/1/2020	BUYER	0	Unknown	    $-   	5/8/2019	1/1/1900	N
4/1/2020	4/1/2020	BUYER	0	Unknown	    $-   	10/8/2019	1/1/1900	Y
3/26/2020	4/1/2020	BUYER	0	Unknown	    $-   	11/2/2018	1/1/1900	Y
12/19/2020	4/1/2020	BUYER	0	Unknown	    $-   	12/19/2019	1/1/1900	N
3/24/2020	4/1/2020	BUYER	4	UK	    $-   	10/27/2019	10/6/2019	Y

Grey market is looking good and organic as always.

Russians often use video games and other weird and obscure markets and back channels to launder money in order to circumvent the sanctions that lock them out mainstream international finance. Usually with video games it involves personal assets and in relatively small amounts, compared to businesses that have to find ways to hide much larger transactions. For the most part it�s too small time to warrant the attention of law enforcement and the intelligence community.

However, with non-state actors it�s something that is looked at more closely. ISIS has been known to both launder money in online games and to use them to recruit and communicate. The NSA and FBI have collected in game communications and even seized game accounts.

# ? Apr 5, 2020 01:38

Xakura: Jan 10, 2019; A safety-conscious little mouse!

stingtwo posted:

the fact that dipshit doesn't have a gaming rig to play Star Citizen is just .

Honestly, that just seems like a smart move. Imagine building a new pc for star citizen in 2014..

# ? Apr 5, 2020 02:12

Quavers: Feb 26, 2016; You clearly don't understand game development

Speculations for 4.0 anyone?

So 4.0 is already pretty much in an advanced state since it's the trash of all unfinished features supposed to be released in 3.X (I know Crusader is a huge thing).
Do you have any idea if anything unrevealed will be released? What are your expectations? As it's a X.0 release, do you believe it's a huge milestone or is it like a regular patch?

Unannounced ship sale for sure

Definitely. No way we go more than 6 months without a new sale.

:shepspends:

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FrigidGeneralAzurevase-mobile.mp4

Star Citizen: it's the trash of all unfinished features supposed to be released

# ? Apr 5, 2020 02:27

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Popete posted:

If you're a software development consultant and you come to the conclusion that Star Citizen is actually coming along just fine you need to look for new work.

What if I am a scam coach?

# ? Apr 5, 2020 03:08

Agony Aunt: Apr 17, 2018; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Quavers posted:

Go to that subreddit, we don't discuss grey market here.

Yeah, its not nice to discuss the seedier side of the game is it? Best sweep it under the carpet.

# ? Apr 5, 2020 04:22

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

Spiderdrake posted:

I sometimes feel like enjoying your posts on trying to play is like enjoying a fine performance of actual human torture

If SC ever actually does VR, will you try it, on that note?

Back in like 2014 when Arena Commander was a very new release, when the latest VR headset was the Oculus DK2, there was a project whose name I can't recall anymore that basically aimed to make flatscreen games playable in VR. It actually worked on Star Citizen at the time, and I played around in it a couple of times. The big problem was that the screen resolution on the DK2 was so bad that it was hard to make out basic text, but there was another issue with CryEngine apparently being unable to render particle effects in the second eye viewscreen, so you'd fly around kind of half-blind as far as lasers and stuff were concerned. It was extremely headache inducing.

That said, at the time you couldn't get out of the cockpit at all and VR did add a lot of depth to the scenes. There was a very real and visceral sense of scale and it made situational awareness in the dogfighting ships much easier. Also at the time the dogfighting model was much tighter and actually fun to play- it had a lot of promise but clearly wasn't working as intended, and I put it down and wandered off, as you do when playing Star Citizen.

These days it's much simpler: SC will never have VR. I actually think that a lot of SC's assets would be extremely good in VR, where attention to visual detail is often highly rewarded because players can only move so fast through your environment before vomiting. But SC simply does not have the technical competence to run in split screen with a high frame rate, usable touch-screen UI, and interactive physics objects everywhere while also maintaining a multiplayer environment. At best they might be able to like, bolt it on to Arena Commander for real. But it has already flitted out of Chris's spergy brain, just as so many other promised-and-never-delivered aspects have, so I do not think we will ever see even a half hearted attempt in our lifetimes. But, to answer your question: yeah I'll absolutely try it, camera-controlling cutscenes and all. My VR legs are much sturdier than they were 6 years ago. I might not even vomit.

# ? Apr 5, 2020 05:07

Kosumo: Apr 9, 2016

Sarsapariller posted:

Back in like 2014 when Arena Commander was a ........... might not even vomit.

You wrote more words than Chris Roberts did for Squadron 42/Star Citizen's design documents.

# ? Apr 5, 2020 08:19

G0RF: Mar 19, 2015; Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

We are 5 days away from Final Fantasy VII Remake and I�m genuinely excited to play it.

Also: Star Citizen is bad. That is all.

# ? Apr 5, 2020 09:00

Kosumo: Apr 9, 2016

Erin or Sandi posted:

You kinda haven't understood the plan for the games future, or even the current state of the game. I'm trying to be kind and assume your best intentions here - rather than think that we have yet another uninformed, too lazy to go find out, entitled newcomer.

If you rent a ship for a day, a week, a month with 'game grind money' (perhaps the 5000 UEC you were gifted as a referral bonus) how does the guy on the next pad along - who paid to help develop the game you're having fun grinding in - know whether you paid to create the game as much as he did? He doesn't, and he doesn't care... All he cares about is that you, me, and anyone else gets to play the game that they want to play. You're welcome.

There is no win, there is no dominate. There is no final big boss. You choose your own 'win condition'. Chris stated clearly in the beginning, pledges are to support development until a viable product can fund the game through sales. He was happy to allow those who prefer to buy UEC in limited amounts, in limited periods so that if they couldn't put in many hours they could progress in whatever they chose to progress in.

There are players who 'pledged thousands of dollars' insist that they will leave every ship they own in the hangar and start day one with nothing more than the clothes on their back having spent real money to help get the game made. They knew 'buying ships' wouldn't hinder them in this aspiration in any way. Unlike other games you can do that, start with nothing and still experience everything.

We don't care what you might think, we are proud to say we helped make that a reality for ANYONE who might want it. Those of us who pledged thousands of dollars didn't do it to win, or to dominate. We did it so that anyone could play a game for as many years as they wish, for as many hours as they wish, without the requirement for a subscription or microtransactions slowly bleeding them dry. We built a universe that could have an endless supply of stories that fire the imagination and create more and more engaging first person single player games to fund that dream into your future, and perhaps even your children's future.

The plan for future funding.

Crazy train to crazy town - I bet that's Erin or Sandi.

Did I doxx?

Ok, I'm sure that must be Sandi - it's just like the BeerfortheBeerGods emails.

Kosumo fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Apr 5, 2020

# ? Apr 5, 2020 09:13

Dooguk: Oct 11, 2016; Pillbug

Sarsapariller posted:

Back in like 2014 when Arena Commander was a very new release, when the latest VR headset was the Oculus DK2, there was a project whose name I can't recall anymore that basically aimed to make flatscreen games playable in VR. ...

Would that be VorpX?

Tried it, but it was difficult to get working correctly.

Edit for speling mistayk.

Dooguk fucked around with this message at 09:24 on Apr 5, 2020

# ? Apr 5, 2020 09:14

Spiderdrake: May 12, 2001

G0RF posted:

We are 5 days away from Final Fantasy VII Remake and I�m genuinely excited to play it.

You mean the first episode, which I'm sure will demonstrate to Chris Roberts he has all the tools to put out Squad whatever episode 1 and reap millions. I mean, I kid, but I don't think episodic game has ever really had a truly big hit like this will be.

Also FF7 is actually a little on topic! It made Square lots of money by being, let's be honest, rather cutscene focused and they... Went into the movie business! Making far more than Roberts ever did, and then managing a disaster that makes Roberts look small scale.

# ? Apr 5, 2020 09:14

Kosumo: Apr 9, 2016

I thought the Hitman games done episonic gaming ok a few years ago - it also has incredibly more fidelity to it's AI than Star Citizen. Chris Roberts is a inept hack

# ? Apr 5, 2020 09:21

G0RF: Mar 19, 2015; Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

Spiderdrake posted:

You mean the first episode, which I'm sure will demonstrate to Chris Roberts he has all the tools to put out Squad whatever episode 1 and reap millions. I mean, I kid, but I don't think episodic game has ever really had a truly big hit like this will be.

Also FF7 is actually a little on topic! It made Square lots of money by being, let's be honest, rather cutscene focused and they... Went into the movie business! Making far more than Roberts ever did, and then managing a disaster that makes Roberts look small scale.

It�s true � I�m sure Chris will be buoyed by massive sales for FFVII: Part I and draw parallels. �Much like my vision for Squadron 42 � a cinematic masterpiece too grand for just one game.�

�Those sales were driven by nostalgia for a former classic just as Squadron will be!�

Etc.

I see a little parallel between FF games and Wing Commander, as well. Final Fantasy games have a cheesy sincerity that�s impossible to take too seriously. I love that quality about them � their goofy earnestness. It�s what makes Wing Commander 1 & 2 so easy to love in hindsight, the kitsch value endured even after superior competitive offerings followed in their footsteps (Tie Fighter, etc.)

But Chris seems to be aiming for something far more consequential and weighty with Squadron. That�s a pretty heavy lift in 202x and he seems ill-suited for it. He speaks of Squadron 42 creating moments and emotions never before experienced in gaming but just sounds deluded and out of touch with just how high that bar really is these days...

I just hope that Calder exerts the kind of internal pressure that forces Chris to wrap his magnum opus up and ship it so we can see just what sort of masterpiece awaits us, so that Chris can finally let the market value its worth critically and commercially.

G0RF fucked around with this message at 10:25 on Apr 5, 2020

# ? Apr 5, 2020 10:20

precision: May 7, 2006; by VideoGames

Squadron 42 Episode 1 will be an hour long and will consist of your character standing in a crowd while Gary Oldman gives the speech. You'll be able to fidget and blink which will have a dynamic effect on the attitude your squadmates have towards you. Fidelity.

# ? Apr 5, 2020 10:40

Bofast: Feb 21, 2011; Grimey Drawer

G0RF posted:

We are 5 days away from Final Fantasy VII Remake and I�m genuinely excited to play it.

Also: Star Citizen is bad. That is all.

I stopped playing FF after the platform shift between 6 and 7, so I might try this once (if) all parts have been released.

# ? Apr 5, 2020 11:52

Bofast: Feb 21, 2011; Grimey Drawer

Our infamous harbinger of failure, Lethality, recently posted a Trello board where he tracks games he's looking forward to. Mount & Blade 2 is on there, so now I'm concerned for it :negative:

# ? Apr 5, 2020 12:11

G0RF: Mar 19, 2015; Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

Bofast posted:

I stopped playing FF after the platform shift between 6 and 7, so I might try this once (if) all parts have been released.

I can�t say I blame you for waiting. It may be awhile, though they�ll surely be finished before Chris wraps his beloved Squadron trilogy.

:gary:

The original VII was, in its time, pretty epic, absurd, melodramatic, and often crazy over the top.

Like picture a boss battle that sees the boss periodically casting this two minutes to execute every time spell that destroys planets but doesn�t kill anybody in your party. The game is full of self-indulgent stuff like that. (Very Prog Rock in the best and worst ways.)

It hasn�t aged as well as some of the titles prior, though. I�d rather replay IV than the original VII these days.

Jazzed about the new one, though. Can�t believe the most exciting releases of 2020 include a FFVII reboot, a Super Mario Galaxy upgrade, and a Half Life VR game...

# ? Apr 5, 2020 12:41

Sankis: Mar 8, 2004; But I remember the fella who told me. Big lad. Arms as thick as oak trees, a stunning collection of scars, nice eye patch. A REAL therapist he was. Er wait. Maybe it was rapist?

I've been replaying the original Ff7 since perhaps the original release and the two things that immediately stuck out at me is how poo poo the UI is and how low the framerate in combat is. It's fun getting the nostale hit and the music is still amazing, though. The modern ports with their speed increase is also keeping me sane.

# ? Apr 5, 2020 12:54

Torquemada: Oct 21, 2010; Drei GlÃ¤ser

G0RF posted:

It�s true � I�m sure Chris will be buoyed by massive sales for FFVII: Part I and draw parallels. �Much like my vision for Squadron 42 � a cinematic masterpiece too grand for just one game.�

�Those sales were driven by nostalgia for a former classic just as Squadron will be!�

It�s going to be even more meta: SC is going to be the development they did along the way. When the actual game releases in twenty years time, it�ll be a sequel to itself. Star Citizen 2: This Time, It�s Playable!

# ? Apr 5, 2020 13:08

Tippis: Mar 21, 2008; It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Torquemada posted:

It�s going to be even more meta: SC is going to be the development they did along the way. When the actual game releases in twenty years time, it�ll be a sequel to itself. Star Citizen 2: This Time, It�s Playable!

In fact, SC is going to have been the inspiration for Square's decision to split it up in episodes � just like Chris was instrumental in making shaded textured 3D happen in computer games, he will be instrumental in making FF7 a smash hit. Thank you Chris for your contribution.

Tippis fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Apr 5, 2020

# ? Apr 5, 2020 13:43

Solarin: Nov 15, 2007

Colostomy Bag posted:

lol at this mess.

# ? Apr 5, 2020 14:25

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

Dooguk posted:

Would that be VorpX?

Tried it, but it was difficult to get working correctly.

Edit for speling mistayk.

There was and still is Vorpex but before that was Tridef - Each is a fudge really although it was fun as hell having me and my DK1 owning pal on the phone as we both thought of games that would be cool in VR and trying to get them to work.

# ? Apr 5, 2020 14:53

Dwesa: Jul 19, 2016; Maybe I'll go where I can see stars

Bofast posted:

Our infamous harbinger of failure, Lethality, recently posted a Trello board where he tracks games he's looking forward to. Mount & Blade 2 is on there, so now I'm concerned for it

Some of the stuff he tracks is really weird. Probably :nws:

# ? Apr 5, 2020 14:57

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

I wish Lethality would pick stocks so we would know when to short them.

# ? Apr 5, 2020 15:02

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

She's at the bottom of the Atlantic, social distancing to the max.

Hopefully Cameron got the memo.

# ? Apr 5, 2020 15:05

SabinBlitz: May 19, 2015; Firm believer that muscles conquers all

Final Fantasy 6 is the best FF and I will fight all of you to the death on this topic. Sephiroth is a BITCH compared to Kefka.

The heroes of FF7 gently caress up so many times and still manage to save the world. The heroes from FF6 do everything right and the loving bad guy is still able to nuke the world. Absolutely shattered me as a kid when I played it. And the story afterward of the heroes trying to pick themselves back up is masterpiece FF in it's purest form. Come at me bros.

# ? Apr 5, 2020 17:24

Dr.Smasher: Nov 27, 2002; Cyberpunk 1987

SabinBlitz posted:

Final Fantasy 6 is the best FF and I will fight all of you to the death on this topic. Sephiroth is a BITCH compared to Kefka.

The heroes of FF7 gently caress up so many times and still manage to save the world. The heroes from FF6 do everything right and the loving bad guy is still able to nuke the world. Absolutely shattered me as a kid when I played it. And the story afterward of the heroes trying to pick themselves back up is masterpiece FF in it's purest form. Come at me bros.

Obvious bias from forums poster SabinBlitz

# ? Apr 5, 2020 17:38

Pixelate: Jan 6, 2018; "You win by having fun"

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star citizen isnt being built to run on modern high end PCs. its being built to run on future high end PCs. we get decent performance now, but the game systems are limited, so much stuff is going to be added and the system requirements will keep going up. the game will keep improving to match hardware as hardware improves. next gen consoles will get left behind as they always do, as their hardware cannot improve beyond what they release with.

# ? Apr 5, 2020 18:35

Virtual Captain: Feb 20, 2017; Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.

posted:

star citizen isnt being built to run on modern high end PCs. its being built to run on future high end PCs. we get decent performance now, but the game systems are limited, so much stuff is going to be added and the system requirements will keep going up. the game will keep improving to match hardware as hardware improves. next gen consoles will get left behind as they always do, as their hardware cannot improve beyond what they release with.

Quote would also sit comfortably in 2007 with Crysis release. The engine is not efficient, but can run semi-comfortably when you don't throw the whole kitchen at it.

CIG is just really bad at drawing inside the lines.

# ? Apr 5, 2020 19:07

marumaru: May 20, 2013

the new X4 DLC has a mission that puts you in a prison.

it's playable right now, unlike a certain other game's prison.

# ? Apr 5, 2020 19:09

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

G0RF posted:

I can�t say I blame you for waiting. It may be awhile, though they�ll surely be finished before Chris wraps his beloved Squadron trilogy.

The original VII was, in its time, pretty epic, absurd, melodramatic, and often crazy over the top.

Like picture a boss battle that sees the boss periodically casting this two minutes to execute every time spell that destroys planets but doesn�t kill anybody in your party. The game is full of self-indulgent stuff like that. (Very Prog Rock in the best and worst ways.)

It hasn�t aged as well as some of the titles prior, though. I�d rather replay IV than the original VII these days.

Jazzed about the new one, though. Can�t believe the most exciting releases of 2020 include a FFVII reboot, a Super Mario Galaxy upgrade, and a Half Life VR game...

Yeah, the willingness of Japanese developers to add completely absurd poo poo into their "very serious business" RPGs in that period makes them charming. Sure let's invade this biochemical weapon factory and oh nooooo, we're being attacked by frogs with parasols!

But for music nothing beats FFX in that it's the game that somehow manages to contains these two themes and make both work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-0G_FI61a8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GepZ5hM3nTw

I remember laughing my rear end off at the second one the first time I heard it.

# ? Apr 5, 2020 19:17

Quavers: Feb 26, 2016; You clearly don't understand game development

So much dedicated hate, so little actual happiness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2sgLN1W__A

inside gaming just hate on what will ever get them views. They dont care what they report on, they have zero integrity as human beings like most journalist.

Man Inside Gaming's become kinda boring ever since Adam and the gang left

Star Citizen has more content right now than some AAA games launching these days. That's the real scary thing.

---> Look our project is better than biggest poo poo in the market. Comparing to the worst games titles isn't the best idea. I could say Star Citizen has 5% of a content compared to the best games in history.

watched about 10mins of it before all the jump cuts and sad attempts at jokes just got too much for me. like they see $ signs and their brain just switches off. setting the content of the video aside, the video itself was also so hard to watch. like they gave an ADD child a snort of coke and handed them some editing software.

These guys have had a hate boner for Star Citizen for years. Back when they were The Know, there was one presenter who was a fan and every time the topic came up everyone else did pretty much everything they could to humiliate him over it.

:gary:

# ? Apr 5, 2020 19:31

BumbleOne: Jul 1, 2018; by Fluffdaddy

�star citizen isnt being built to run on modern high end PCs�

yeah thats true. that statement was true in 2013, it is true now, and it will still be true in 2025.
because it will never be ready for release.
because cig does not exist in the here and now and also not in what we call reality.

you know microsoft should just skip the next console generation.
its not powerful enough anyway. why are they even bothering with this toy?
why not skip the next generation and instead crowdfund some money for the succesor.

why is anyone still releasing anything? it.will always be overshadowed by what comes next anyway! cig is the only company that understood its better to push back your product for all eternity and thus always win every comparison.

BumbleOne fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Apr 5, 2020

# ? Apr 5, 2020 20:46

Astroniomix: Apr 24, 2015

It's worth mentioning that the FF games tend to be fun to play as well.

# ? Apr 5, 2020 20:48

Fatkraken: Jun 23, 2005; Fun-time is over.

Dr.Smasher posted:

Obvious bias from forums poster SabinBlitz

6 is best because you can suplex a train :colbert:

# ? Apr 5, 2020 20:59

fat bossy gerbil: Jul 1, 2007

Remember like four or five years ago when we were all convinced this thing was going to implode within the next few months? Good times.

# ? Apr 5, 2020 21:00

Agony Aunt: Apr 17, 2018; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Virtual Captain posted:

Quote would also sit comfortably in 2007 with Crysis release. The engine is not efficient, but can run semi-comfortably when you don't throw the whole kitchen at it.

CIG is just really bad at drawing inside the lines.

Are the lines perpendicular?

# ? Apr 5, 2020 21:01

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Agony Aunt: Apr 17, 2018; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Pixelate posted:

"and the system requirements will keep going up"

Dear loving gods. Do they want people to (eventually) play the game or not?

I mean, except for people like Mr. VR chat man roleplaying as hentai tentacle girl...

# ? Apr 5, 2020 21:03

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