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Unfortunately there’s a level beyond that. A friend who hasn’t played in years rung me up to play the other day. We ended up on skail 24/7 2fort. It was unbearable beyond 2fort being a horrible map. Literal shrieking over the mic by multiple people when they died.
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Trying to get a handle on community servers again after years of not using them. I tried some server that had bots, this is way off peak hours of course. I was on frontier, and the red team was just building forests of sentry guns, just carpeting the area ahead of the cart. They're bots, so it was pretty easy to push through, but it was a very different experience. And of course there was some weirdo on the mic doing a "funny" voice stream of consciousness shtick. TF2 baybee.
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Oxygenpoisoning posted:Unfortunately there’s a level beyond that. A friend who hasn’t played in years rung me up to play the other day. We ended up on skail 24/7 2fort. It was unbearable beyond 2fort being a horrible map. Literal shrieking over the mic by multiple people when they died. People who play 2fort unironically are the worst.
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NotNut posted:anybody else keep getting disconnected from casual matches? Ghost Leviathan posted:People who play 2fort unironically are the worst. 
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Oxygenpoisoning posted:Unfortunately there’s a level beyond that. A friend who hasn’t played in years rung me up to play the other day. We ended up on skail 24/7 2fort. It was unbearable beyond 2fort being a horrible map. Literal shrieking over the mic by multiple people when they died. skial 24/7 2fort servers half-full of bots will survive with CS:S 24/7 gungame surf to the end of days
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Just getting back into TF2 this past week and man the casual matchmaking situation is pretty loving dire huh? The 1 ping bot cheaters were easy enough to remove with vote-kicks, but the past three days of auto-disconnect is pretty unavoidable.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:People who play 2fort unironically are the worst. I'm kidding, what I actually want to play is 24/7 Hightower
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PMush Perfect posted:24/7 Dustbooooowl! Nah it's Doublecross that's the place to be
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Vaah posted:Just getting back into TF2 this past week and man the casual matchmaking situation is pretty loving dire huh? The 1 ping bot cheaters were easy enough to remove with vote-kicks, but the past three days of auto-disconnect is pretty unavoidable. Yeah, that happened in the last week or so.
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drrockso20 posted:Nah it's Doublecross that's the place to be Emptyquoting for truth
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I really wonder why people are making these lag bots. They have become unusually common in only 2 weeks. I tried the creator.tf servers and they were fine on west coast NA. No mic-spamming, but plenty of run-of-the-mill pubstomping.
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Doublecross is one of the fee good ctf maps, so it means it could probably be adapted to be better as something else
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ArfJason posted:Doublecross is one of the fee good ctf maps, so it means it could probably be adapted to be better as something else Most CTF maps would probably work better as CP or KOTH maps Also Powerhouse would be so much better as a KOTH map as it's so much more interesting to fight over the middle section than the slog that is capturing last in that map
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Oxygenpoisoning posted:Apparently there are lag bots now. I haven’t experienced on put a discord server I’m in has been complaining about then. I’ve been seeing a lot more hackers lately on NA east coast than I ever have before. They are pretty obvious spin bots and leave the second anyone vote kicks.  I know I'm like a broken record to the millionth degree here, but GOLLY it sure was nice when we had a server browser and could pick and choose what we joined with our own free will. Community servers could be lovely but there were good ones and it was better than this dogshit.
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I am going to fire the game back up today. Those casual bots sound bad. I'm going to try the creators.tf servers as everyone seems to recommend them.
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Xander77 posted:I would go back to playing if we could have that. Not because I "preferred" the old way as a matter of taste or whatever, but because I could actually join a game within minutes instead of waiting for half an hour for the connection to fail over and over. I mean there is still a server browser, you just can’t join valve servers (not that you’d want to right now with all the cheaters). Creator.tf and potato.tf are good servers with a relatively vanilla play. The major differences being no crit and a quite a few custom maps. There’s skial as well, but they are 24/7 of the more popular maps (high tower, upward, turbine, etc.) that is still pretty vanilla except that that they had bots in low population settings, and will change afk players to bots instead of kicking them.
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Yeah the only difference is now you don't get to see that there's only 3 servers running kong king with people that aren't full, and you get to check a large number of maps at once. It's slightly more annoying to look for server running just one map or just one game mode, but it's a lot easier to search for several specific maps at once.
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There's still some good community servers, but really, most in the list are idle/cp_orange/x1000/other poo poo that's barely related to the main game.
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nielsm posted:There's still some good community servers, but really, most in the list are idle/cp_orange/x1000/other poo poo that's barely related to the main game. TF2 did things the old way and it was better for people familiar with it, but also very certainly a greater hassle for new players since good luck figuring out what's a decent community server to frequent. The insufferable communities that arose led me to playing pubs with hud_saytext 0 ; voice_enable 0. It wasn't perfect, you had to know where to look to get an actual no-gimmick 24 player server with a normal map rotation, but at least an admin could quickly ban a hacker. And without community servers we'd never have tried custom maps. My map folder got to 50 gigs at one point.
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Tell me about it... I don't have problems using a server browser. I used QuakeSpy before it was renamed to GameSpy, unfortunately I also only had modem back then so never could play much online. I just wish the Steam/Source server browser was better, at least had a way to filter out multiple keywords. If there is one it's at least not obvious. Having a curated online experience isn't bad in itself, but it quickly turns worse than a community-managed online experience when the publisher doesn't actively maintain the curated servers.
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Sanctum posted:an actual no-gimmick 24 player server with a normal map rotation I mean, I did kinda just make one (along with a whole shitload of other retro PC game servers) and post it over in PGS... 
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Valve released an update today, which may have fixed the lagbot crashes.
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WOWEE ZOWEE posted:Valve released an update today, which may have fixed the lagbot crashes. Let’s hope this works. I think they need to outright kill the text mode, as a lot of the multi boxing is exploiting this feature. Not sure if it’s feasible though.
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Guessing the update was successful. Last night I had an extremely long and good match on Sunshine that did not get lag botted.
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Jumpers are still going ham on tf2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PINs9bXxsk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N51RSdwmmJo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80D45Jsuxww https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vev4bR9Gzk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKifiCF4kIA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbzyky-_lUA
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Is something going on where people can make alt bot accounts and run them concurrently, in the same server, while also playing there? There are multiple hacking snipers on every server I connect to tonight but I have a hunch they aren't actual players hacking but scripted AI bots because they are all the same - act stupidly despite being all perfect aim snipers. Someone got mad at me when I immediately votekicked a duplicate playername that re-joined and referenced to me being 'no fun' the same as he did with my team 5 servers back of being 'no fun' when I had pocket medic and we actually trounced on 3 hackers (just bots probably) and won. This is multiple hackers every single game, without exception. Is TF2 lobby still around or what's the alternative to that.
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Sanctum posted:Is TF2 lobby still around or what's the alternative to that. Come to the goon server https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3919173
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Sanctum posted:Is something going on where people can make alt bot accounts and run them concurrently, in the same server, while also playing there? MOD EDIT: Weird text I got rid of.
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Sanctum posted:Is something going on where people can make alt bot accounts and run them concurrently, in the same server, while also playing there? There's definitely a thing of cheaters bringing along a party of bots to make themselves immune to getting vote kicked.
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Galaxander posted:There's definitely a thing of cheaters bringing along a party of bots to make themselves immune to getting vote kicked. Those bot groups also will kick normal players, was briefly top-scoring as sniper on upward last night when like 6 people joined at once and that immediatey called a votekick on me that passed in like 3 seconds. Never kicked the friend I was playing with though.
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Vaah posted:Those bot groups also will kick normal players, was briefly top-scoring as sniper on upward last night when like 6 people joined at once and that immediatey called a votekick on me that passed in like 3 seconds. Never kicked the friend I was playing with though. Yeah. They usually don't try to be subtle anyway, but nothing makes it more obvious than a bunch of votes instantaneously cast whenever a vote is called. I still wish they'd change voting to have parties count as one person so that a party of six would be 1/7 instead of 6/12.
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