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EIDE Van Hagar
Dec 8, 2000

Beep Boop
if only it were happing just-in-time.

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Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
it's not possible to really do a genuine a/b comparison but i openly challenge any UBI haters to test me. fire me from my job of janitoring snippets of an obscure programming language meant to control a reverse proxy versus paying me enough to cover rent+bills and let me make 3 hours a day of youtubes about ham radio, home gardening and repairing that $700 motorcycle you bought on craigslist.

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost

Jonny 290 posted:

it's not possible to really do a genuine a/b comparison but i openly challenge any UBI haters to test me. fire me from my job of janitoring snippets of an obscure programming language meant to control a reverse proxy versus paying me enough to cover rent+bills and let me make 3 hours a day of youtubes about ham radio, home gardening and repairing that $700 motorcycle you bought on craigslist.

Sorry about your lua

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
there are so many topics and fields that i am literally dying inside to just teach people about day in and day out and i cannot because i am so very tired at the end of the work day. one pays more. the other does more objective good. i'm not saying i hate my job, but i'd love not having it + not worrying about starving more

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost
The current date is 5 April 2020

There are 12 weeks until 1 July 2020
There are 87 days until 1 July 2020
There are 62 working days until 1 July 2020


I hate having my RSU cliff dangling infront of me like this. I'm over 3/4 of the way to it.

I have 15 days of PTO available that I haven't touched so maybe I'm actually as close as 47 working days left where I need to maintain this facade

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb
One thing I keep hearing from people in real life is that they're hopeful the current crisis will give way to a new era of progressive policies. They think that this virus will cause socialist programs to fall from the sky into our laps. This is ignorant in my opinion. Socialist programs only come from hard work, direct action, organizing, and relentless effort. Fascism is what naturally organizes itself from the failures of capitalism, not socialism.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

Salt Fish posted:

One thing I keep hearing from people in real life is that they're hopeful the current crisis will give way to a new era of progressive policies. They think that this virus will cause socialist programs to fall from the sky into our laps. This is ignorant in my opinion. Socialist programs only come from hard work, direct action, organizing, and relentless effort. Fascism is what naturally organizes itself from the failures of capitalism, not socialism.

yeah not really looking forward to america trying to anschluss everything north of the 49th

theadder
Dec 30, 2011


echinopsis posted:

someone just came in the pharmacy and said her daughters can’t get any weed lol. they’re 27 and 33

aha

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple on pizzadog derangement syndrome

Methanar posted:

The current date is 5 April 2020

There are 12 weeks until 1 July 2020
There are 87 days until 1 July 2020
There are 62 working days until 1 July 2020


I hate having my RSU cliff dangling infront of me like this. I'm over 3/4 of the way to it.

I have 15 days of PTO available that I haven't touched so maybe I'm actually as close as 47 working days left where I need to maintain this facade

keep in mind that if you're thinking about moving jobs, if you're in significant demand you can ask for the value of the RSUs as a signing bonus at the new job. It's fairly common in the valley. The signing bonus is typically vested over X years but don't let RSUs keep you somewhere you don't want to be unless there's a huge fuckin lot of em.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple on pizzadog derangement syndrome

Salt Fish posted:

Fascism is what naturally organizes itself from the failures of capitalism, not socialism.


"Can't someone else do it?"

Turns out the answer is yes, and it's authoritarians.

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010

the great depression gave us the new deal and wpa, social security though. if this drags on significantly, the governments may look at the numbers and go "well poo poo, either we pass ubi or have a bunch of starving homeless people and mass riots". they pass things like that typically not because they're asked nicely by the working class, but because the circumstances demand it

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb
The Third Reich trilogy by Richard J Evans is really good if you want to learn about German fascism. One of the main themes in them is that the Wiemar Republic was really unpopular and unnatural and most in the civil service hated it and wanted to return to monarchy. This led to a super fast dismantling of the democracy and a equally quick replacement with a fascist regime after the financial crisis. It's a similar type of fuel that drives american fascism, but we seem to be heavier on the plutocracy and it's taken decades to pull apart the institutions.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
one of the most darkly funniest things to me is how modern conservative politicians, unlike the old school ones, will sell out for an abolutely inconsequential sum of money.


like, if you're going to grift, GRIFT. get a couple million bucks. but we have all these idiot state congress members and lovely mayors selling out and wrecking their entire lives for like $18,742. it's shameful. respect the game at least jesus christ

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
i think one of the overarching themes of the 2010-2020+ political era is that the evil is being done in an extremely incompetent and classless manner

i realize this is a super blackpill take but, lmao at those idiots. you cant even get a pool liner replaced and a new ATV with those dollars

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
i've given up on caring what happens to other people as long as everyone leaves me alone and stays out of my way

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

i've given up on caring what happens to other people as long as everyone leaves me alone and stays out of my way

kinda where im at. lizard mode. avoid Dying

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple on pizzadog derangement syndrome

Jonny 290 posted:

one of the most darkly funniest things to me is how modern conservative politicians, unlike the old school ones, will sell out for an abolutely inconsequential sum of money.

its not just conservatives. Leland Yee did all kinds of insane gun running poo poo for fuckin trifling amounts of money, like 3-5k. Money that could maybe buy you a 15 year old accord with torn seats.

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
It's going to be called Pacifica guys.

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

classic case of pineapple on pizzadog derangement syndrome

Stereotype posted:

It's going to be called Pacifica guys.

whatever it's called, I want in

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



i don’t know if it’s comforting or frightening to think that maybe there was more that just hadn’t been discovered yet.

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
im sticking near the great lakes, y'all can have your shark infested saltwater

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

Salt Fish posted:

One thing I keep hearing from people in real life is that they're hopeful the current crisis will give way to a new era of progressive policies. They think that this virus will cause socialist programs to fall from the sky into our laps. This is ignorant in my opinion. Socialist programs only come from hard work, direct action, organizing, and relentless effort. Fascism is what naturally organizes itself from the failures of capitalism, not socialism.

This is the hard part too. The biggest risk of giving people more time is that they will individually challenge the low-level municipal power structure and win because they have a base level of competence. This is the level where you both move up, as well rear end actually inference things. I successfully got both one of the largest commercial property owners on Oahu as well as the massive state Department of Education to make drastic and public concessions. I am in charge of a bunch of hawaii stuff because I showed up to the weird democratic bureaucracy meetings and volunteered for everything.

Bernie was pushing "friend and family outreach" big here because it is actually effective to motivate action so hey guys go be your local party district president or neighborhood board chair and then work to be the state representative or city councilperson.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Salt Fish posted:

One thing I keep hearing from people in real life is that they're hopeful the current crisis will give way to a new era of progressive policies. They think that this virus will cause socialist programs to fall from the sky into our laps. This is ignorant in my opinion. Socialist programs only come from hard work, direct action, organizing, and relentless effort. Fascism is what naturally organizes itself from the failures of capitalism, not socialism.

I completely agree, lots seem to think its time to sitback and smoke a bowl and just presume we're getting luxury automated gay space communism all on it's own. no work needed, just relax ya'll, corona-chan has got this.

great depression was probably going to be worse in part due to less mega-ag and without the modern haber-bosch cycle processes, and unemployment in like 35%+ with even less things like snap/ue to rely on. people were also much more class-conscious with big unionization efforts in the factories, socialism was seen as good, and henry george wrote the best-selling economics book of all time that was very much read by a lot of people in their time and it was all about advocating socialism and destroying landlords

lots of blood was shed (ford massacre and such), all that and what did we get out of it? some good and valuable stuff, but nothing like really revolutionary; basically mostly compromise fig-leaf things designed to make sure capitalism runs a bit smoother in the future, suppress the angry people from asking for anything that would upset the status quo, and ensured rich were not eaten while making sure they also still stayed insanely powerful and very wealthy. people didn't march and eat the rockerfellers, or jp morgans, schwabs, forbes, guggenheims, melons, carnegies, etc even when they were literally dying of starvation. and people are much less armed and much less inclined to do so today.

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost
Revolution is probably like, a 72 hour internet outage away.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
i expect what we'll get is means-tested ability to draw early SS futures today (forr less payout in the future ) to pay up to 60% of rent/mortgage. maybe another means-tested tax-credit advance. and also drop capital gains taxes to 0% and eliminate the top tax rbacket for good measure; gotta trickle down and all that. the pelosi/schumer mcconnell grand bargain

Moo Cowabunga
Jun 15, 2009

[Office Worker.




Methanar posted:

Revolution is probably like, a 72 hour internet outage away.

:agreed:

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost
https://www.google.com/covid19/mobility/

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXGSLKWeVwE

coronavirus version

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Jonny 290 posted:

one of the most darkly funniest things to me is how modern conservative politicians, unlike the old school ones, will sell out for an abolutely inconsequential sum of money.


like, if you're going to grift, GRIFT. get a couple million bucks. but we have all these idiot state congress members and lovely mayors selling out and wrecking their entire lives for like $18,742. it's shameful. respect the game at least jesus christ

maybe they're millenials and they just need a bit more money for a house deposit

Trimson Grondag 3
Jul 1, 2007

Clapping Larry

Jonny 290 posted:

one of the most darkly funniest things to me is how modern conservative politicians, unlike the old school ones, will sell out for an abolutely inconsequential sum of money.


like, if you're going to grift, GRIFT. get a couple million bucks. but we have all these idiot state congress members and lovely mayors selling out and wrecking their entire lives for like $18,742. it's shameful. respect the game at least jesus christ

i've thought about that before and i can only assume its because unaccountable money has more utility, ie it's easier to spend 10k in dirty twenties on hookers and blow than it is to spend 50k of IRS audited money that shows up on a statement

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.

rotor posted:

100% behind secession. Balkanization has been the modern answer to cultural and ideological differences throughout eastern europe, the middle east and asia. I'm not sure why we're special.
balkanization is specifically the end state of an empire’s decline and final days, so. yeah

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
worked for Yugoslavia. I don’t hear about them much anymore, seems like it worked alright.

power botton
Nov 2, 2011

I think it would be very funny if bits of the US starts succeeding as we force a one state solution in Israel/palestine.

power botton
Nov 2, 2011

the trump SALT tax changes personally hurt me real bad so honestly I don't see anything more important than undoing those to get the economy rolling again.

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.

Stereotype posted:

worked for Yugoslavia. I don’t hear about them much anymore, seems like it worked alright.
yes, and also for the actual balkans

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

im sticking near the great lakes, y'all can have your shark infested saltwater

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

Uptime Sinclair posted:

yes, and also for the actual balkans



balkan at ur posts!

in a well actually
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

Jonny 290 posted:

one of the most darkly funniest things to me is how modern conservative politicians, unlike the old school ones, will sell out for an abolutely inconsequential sum of money.


like, if you're going to grift, GRIFT. get a couple million bucks. but we have all these idiot state congress members and lovely mayors selling out and wrecking their entire lives for like $18,742. it's shameful. respect the game at least jesus christ

they make it up for it in volume

selling a hundred votes at 20k each is easier than selling one vote for two mil

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in a well actually
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

thinking about flyovers as immutable solid red is some peak dlc third way brain

the right, when confronted with demographic changes that would put them out of power, lies, cheats, and disenfranchises and then uses that to entrench power

seeing this, the center-left shrugs and fantasize about isolating to ‘blue’ states which had partially or fully red governments as recently as the now-immutably red states were blue

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